Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 20 updates in 5 topics

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Feb 03 01:18AM -0800


> Hi,
> This is NOT a handheld unit. I should have mentioned
> that.
 
Uniden has always refused to sell me any manuals. They claimed their consumer grade C-band equipment couldn't be repaired outside the factory. I laughed and told them it was a toy compared to the receivers we built. One thing was certain. It was too complex to repair without a manual. thet3/4" hole burnt through the circuit bord was impossible to reverse engineer. About 30 parts nd a lot of missing traces, along with the substrate.
 
Have you contacted H.W. Sams? (Photofacts) They might have something. They used to publish scanner manuals.
Ken Layton <KLayton888@aol.com>: Feb 03 07:56AM -0800


> I had searched the web for a source about a year ago.
 
> Does anyone know where I can get a schematic?
 
> Thank You in advance, John
 
Back in 1995, I was able to order the manual from their parts department. It is Uniden part number SMBC855XLT (also known as part number 12A90-3AT200). It is 54 pages long, but the copy I purchased back then was missing pages 19 and 20. I contacted Uniden and they copied the missing pages and sent them to me. Back then the manual cost $16.00 plus $4.50 shipping from Uniden's parts department.
 
If you can't get the manual from Uniden any longer, I could photocopy the manual, but it's got about ten 11 x 17 full sized schematics. It's a very comprehensive manual which covers everything and even has voltage measurements.
micky <NONONOaddressee@rushpost.com>: Feb 02 05:57PM -0500

In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 2 Feb 2020 05:22:36 -0800 (PST),
 
>https://www.amazon.com/GE-Coaxial-Connector-Weather-73512/dp/B003YKG9FS
 
>If you must do it this way, I'd give it a little coating of dielectric grease before threading it all together.
 
>Probably last 10 to 20 more years assuming the cable is in good shape.
 
Thanks. When I was doing all this, I bought the hexagonal crimping
pliers that look like pliers. Sometime since, maybe at a yard sale, I
found the one that look like some advanced weapon, and has more
leverage, also with 2 hexagonal holes, but I don't think I've ever had a
chance to use it. This is my chance.
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Feb 03 01:50AM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:22:39 AM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
> > because of the age, 35 years, and the occasional heat**, the white
> > vinyl covering doesn't stretch enough to replace the F-connector.
 
> > What to do?
 
Cut off an inch or two and install a new connector properly.
 
You can add a short jumpper and connect it with a F-61 adapter.
 
You may find that the cable is beyond reuse due to age rather than heat.
 
Some cheap brands used too little plasticizer, so it has evaporated and the the sheath is cracking. Jersey Specialty and Radio Shack both come to mind for this failure.
 
I used to maintain CATV head end equipment for a major MSO and I specified what bulk supplies to buy. We only bought Belden or Times coax for our drop and premise wiring.
 
If the old cable isn't any good and not nailed down I have stripped the end of new and old cable and used a Western Union splice on the center conductors to pull in new coax. It helps to spiral a piece of thin electrical tape over the open part, but if the holes are big enough you can shake he coax and get it through the hole.
 
 
> First determine if it's RG59 or 60,
 
RG6, not 60
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Feb 03 01:53AM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 5:57:17 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> found the one that look like some advanced weapon, and has more
> leverage, also with 2 hexagonal holes, but I don't think I've ever had a
> chance to use it. This is my chance.
 
As long as the dies aren't worn the second tool is the one you want. There are even fancier tools with interchangable dies for specific cables and connectors They are quite expensive. We used them for some custom microwave cables at on job.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Feb 02 07:09PM -0800

>any trace at all until uploading the photo... I did turn the drum a day
>ahead to get past the huge ink spot):
 
>https://imgur.com/a/GcYaO8c
 
<https://www.metcheck.co.uk/blogs/barographs/156686919-how-to-get-a-good-barogram>
All the items mentioned apply.
 
I was using and recommending ink absorbent paper. According to the
above URL, that's wrong. It did work for me, but wasn't very good
looking. However, it didn't create a huge ink blob. At this point, I
don't know exactly what is wrong. It could be wrong ink, wrong type
of paper, bad nib spacing in the pen, bent nibs, etc. Dunno. I don't
have a barograph handy for testing.
--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Abe D <abednpspam@verizon.net>: Feb 02 11:44AM -0500

On 2/2/20 8:32 AM, John-Del wrote:
 
> It's too late now but repairing board with a topical coating of epoxy is not the way to stabilize it. The epoxy acts like a top hinge and the bottom of the board will flex away from the crack. To make it more stable, you have to add some epoxy on the other side and hope it adheres.
 
> The proper way to repair a fractured board is to remove any component(s) that crosses the break, and fit the board pieces back together where the seam doesn't even show. You may actually have to break the board a bit more to get it to fit perfectly.
 
> At this point, apply FRESH cyanoacrylate so it wicks inside the fracture and bonds the board completely together from the inside, not just one side.
 
Not totally clear to me here. Am I going to try applying more epoxy on
the board side of the crack, cyanoacrylate, or both?
 
 
> If done properly, the cracks will be barely visible. Scrape the green mask off the trace just at the break and half the distance the trace is wide. A drop of solder across each land will finish it.
 
What about the large, outer section of the board appearing more like a
screen rather than solid trace? I doubt I could find stranded wire wide
enough and pretty fragile there to try scraping. Also, what's the best
tool for the scraping?
 
 
> In your case, because the pieces don't fit that well, scrape back the mask and hand wire from point to point and across the fracture with some fine copper stranded wire (one or more strands depending on width of the trace), and coat the entire trace with solder using the copper strand as a sort of "rebar".
 
> Deflux the board and apply either a conformal coating or get some green nail polish to protect the lands.
 
Nail polish would be a go, but what to use for defluxing?
 
Thanks.
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Feb 02 12:06PM -0500

In article <r16ua5$7ce$1@dont-email.me>, abednpspam@verizon.net says...
 
> > In your case, because the pieces don't fit that well, scrape back the mask and hand wire from point to point and across the fracture with some fine copper stranded wire (one or more strands depending on width of the trace), and coat the entire trace with solder using the copper strand as a sort of "rebar".
 
> > Deflux the board and apply either a conformal coating or get some green nail polish to protect the lands.
 
> Nail polish would be a go, but what to use for defluxing?
 
Depends on the flux used.
 
Most of the time use IPA . That is alcohol that is 90% or better with
no addatives that is often in common rubbing alcohol.
 
The common rubbing alcohol that is 70 % would be ok except most of it
contains other chemicals that leave a residue on the boards.
etpm@whidbey.com: Feb 02 09:32AM -0800

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 02:47:18 -0500, Abe D <abednpspam@verizon.net>
wrote:
 
 
>Unfortunately, the board cannot be replaced.
 
>Thanks in advance.
 
>Abe
I think some JB weld formulations have very fine metal powder in them
for strength. Maybe you should see if the stuff you used is conductive
before you apply power to the board again.
Eric
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Feb 02 10:16AM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-5, Abe D wrote:
 
> > At this point, apply FRESH cyanoacrylate so it wicks inside the fracture and bonds the board completely together from the inside, not just one side.
 
> Not totally clear to me here. Am I going to try applying more epoxy on
> the board side of the crack, cyanoacrylate, or both?
 
I had two avenues of advice: the first how to properly repair a cracked or totally broken PC so it's virtually invisible, and advice directed to you having already attempted a repair with epoxy.
 
Because you have already epoxied the board together, it's really too late to use the cyano adhesive, particularly if you put epoxy into the crack. We never want to use cyano as a filler. The beauty of cyanoacrylate is that it doesn't require a gap in order to put the epoxy in. With cyano, you can fit the board together perfecly and the cyano will wet *into* the PC (either glass or phenolic) and bond it with no gap whatsoever. Properly done, there is virtually no gap across the broken foil and the foil ends butt together almost perfectly.
 
If you can remove the epoxy you already put down, and there is no epoxy in the break line, then you can refit the pieces so the crack is perfectly joined and virtually invisible. At this point, you can use cyanoacrylate to permanently bond the board internally, as opposed to using external adhesive.
 
If done properly, no jumpers are even required as the mask can be scrapped off right at the crack and a dot of solder put across the gap. Because the board is bonded internally, there is is virtually no flex and the solder ball will make a perfectly clean and virtually indestructible connection across the break.
 
If you can't remove the epoxy, you're better off adding a layer to the bottom to reduce the "hinge" effect you will get with epoxy on one side or the other allowing flexing.
 
As for the large areas of damaged foil, you can add strips of solder wick braid to add some physical strength as well as complete the circuit.
Tempestinatesttube <tempest@ina.com>: Feb 02 01:58PM -0500

On 2/2/20 1:16 PM, John-Del wrote:
 
> I had two avenues of advice: the first how to properly repair a cracked or totally broken PC so it's virtually invisible, and advice directed to you having already attempted a repair with epoxy.
 
> Because you have already epoxied the board together, it's really too late to use the cyano adhesive, particularly if you put epoxy into the crack. We never want to use cyano as a filler. The beauty of cyanoacrylate is that it doesn't require a gap in order to put the epoxy in. With cyano, you can fit the board together perfecly and the cyano will wet *into* the PC (either glass or phenolic) and bond it with no gap whatsoever. Properly done, there is virtually no gap across the broken foil and the foil ends butt together almost perfectly.
 
> If you can remove the epoxy you already put down, and there is no epoxy in the break line, then you can refit the pieces so the crack is perfectly joined and virtually invisible. At this point, you can use cyanoacrylate to permanently bond the board internally, as opposed to using external adhesive.
 
Too well bonded now, even though not perfectly aligned. And I did use
some cyano on the board side just a little while ago to fill in. Not
the best idea for sure and it's only about 49 F in the room where the
board is, so I better wait a full day before doing anything else.
 
 
> If done properly, no jumpers are even required as the mask can be scrapped off right at the crack and a dot of solder put across the gap. Because the board is bonded internally, there is is virtually no flex and the solder ball will make a perfectly clean and virtually indestructible connection across the break.
 
The board rejoining is too imperfect for solder dots. Looks like I will
be using jumpers and solder braid, removing flux afterwards, and
covering with nail polish.
 
 
> If you can't remove the epoxy, you're better off adding a layer to the bottom to reduce the "hinge" effect you will get with epoxy on one side or the other allowing flexing.
 
I'm going to glue a couple of round wooden sticks along each length of
the board on the underside. There will be one horizontal stick along
each edge. This won't interfere when I reinstall the board. Hopefully
it will help augment any strengthening needed.
 
 
 
> As for the large areas of damaged foil, you can add strips of solder wick braid to add some physical strength as well as complete the circuit.
 
Solder braid, good idea. Don't have any though, will have to order
some. What's the best way to remove the conformal coating?
Tempestinatesttube <tempest@ina.com>: Feb 02 02:27PM -0500

> for strength. Maybe you should see if the stuff you used is conductive
> before you apply power to the board again.
> Eric
 
No conductivity, so thumbs up there. Thanks for pointing that out.
Would have hated to go through all this only to realize I was
shortchanged by the epoxy.
Tempestinatesttube <tempest@ina.com>: Feb 02 02:35PM -0500

On 2/2/20 12:06 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> no addatives that is often in common rubbing alcohol.
 
> The common rubbing alcohol that is 70 % would be ok except most of it
> contains other chemicals that leave a residue on the boards.
 
Have both 70 and 90, so thumbs up, thanks!
Tempestinatesttube <tempest@ina.com>: Feb 02 02:36PM -0500

On 2/2/20 2:35 PM, Tempestinatesttube wrote:
 
>> The common rubbing alcohol that is 70 % would be ok except most of it
>> contains other chemicals that leave a residue on the boards.
 
> Have both 70 and 90, so thumbs up, thanks!
 
Maybe not so thumbs up when I read more clearly. Standard ISO is all I
have. What about Everclear?
etpm@whidbey.com: Feb 02 12:37PM -0800

On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 14:27:47 -0500, Tempestinatesttube
 
>No conductivity, so thumbs up there. Thanks for pointing that out.
>Would have hated to go through all this only to realize I was
>shortchanged by the epoxy.
 
Yeah, that would suck.
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Feb 02 01:06PM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-5, Tempestinatesttube wrote:
 
> Solder braid, good idea. Don't have any though, will have to order
> some. What's the best way to remove the conformal coating?
 
I just use a jeweler's screwdriver that's not knackered up. If it has a crisp edge, you can easily scrape off the conformal coating (if the board has it) as well as the green solder mask. Expose the copper and use a bit of flux to improve the wetting and bonding of the solder to the copper.
Tempestinatesttube <tempest@ina.com>: Feb 02 04:21PM -0500

On 2/2/20 4:06 PM, John-Del wrote:
 
>> Solder braid, good idea. Don't have any though, will have to order
>> some. What's the best way to remove the conformal coating?
 
> I just use a jeweler's screwdriver that's not knackered up. If it has a crisp edge, you can easily scrape off the conformal coating (if the board has it) as well as the green solder mask. Expose the copper and use a bit of flux to improve the wetting and bonding of the solder to the copper.
 
Very good, thanks again. Will tackle this tomorrow once I have the
braid in hand.
Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Feb 02 08:51PM -0500

On 2/2/2020 11:44 AM, Abe D wrote:
>> green nail polish to protect the lands.
 
> Nail polish would be a go, but what to use for defluxing?
 
> Thanks.
 
JB weld is conductive.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Feb 02 08:05PM -0600

On 2/2/20 7:51 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
> JB weld is conductive.
 
I found that out the hard way.
I replaced a thermal fuse on a crystal heating oven.
Turned the power on and Blam!
It took a bit to clean that mess up.
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Feb 02 04:24PM -0800

> from the lathe 1980s. Today there was a big power surge and one of the
> 3 MOVs on the input for the drive exploded.
> The marking on one MOV is ENB401 40.
 
It just needs to outlast the fuse, so the exact ratings aren't too important.
Assuming 220V three phase, just about anything in this list will do the task.
 
<https://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/tvs-varistors-movs/141?k=MOV&k=&pkeyword=MOV&sv=0&pv2151=u250V&sf=1&FV=-8%7C141%2C16%7C339262%2C16%7C339263%2C16%7C339265%2C16%7C339266%2C16%7C339267%2C1989%7C0&quantity=&ColumnSort=0&page=1&pageSize=25>
 
There's also the NTE resource to find equivalents, <https://www.nteinc.com/search.php>
which suggests a replacement part, but that part number was an old Fuji one, and not
really available nowadays (except 'new-old-stock' at outrageous prices).
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Abe D <abednpspam@verizon.net>: Feb 02 02:47AM -0500

I have a broken circuit board and accompanying topside components here:
 
https://imgur.com/a/Pbt1HSU
 
The red circled areas show the cracked sections. In a pinch, I have
glued the broken parts back together with JB Quick Weld. After several
hours, it seems stable enough to handle.
 
Now, the question is, what's the best way to rejoin the broken traces?
Initial thought was to just jumper over the solid sections and join the
jumpers between soldered components. Not so sure what to do about the
large screened sections (probably serving as a ground screen for the
flyback topside?). I welcome any tips or thoughts. If I start trying to
scrape the conformal coating, it may come apart again.
 
Unfortunately, the board cannot be replaced.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Abe
micky <NONONOaddressee@rushpost.com>: Feb 02 03:24AM -0500

In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 2 Feb 2020 02:47:18 -0500, Abe D
 
>Now, the question is, what's the best way to rejoin the broken traces?
>Initial thought was to just jumper over the solid sections and join the
>jumpers between soldered components.
 
Sounds good.
 
> Not so sure what to do about the
>large screened sections (probably serving as a ground screen for the
>flyback topside?).
 
I'm no pro, but why not the same thing. Does it matter if the edges of
the screen are touching if the screen itself is all connected to itself.
Then you can see if the thing it comes from works or not.
 
40 years ago I had a roommmate whose father threw a clock-tv at him. I
neve saw another one. So cute. 9" TV, I would have liked to have had
one. Board was broken in about 20 places but it worked after I jumpered
each of them.
 
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Feb 02 05:32AM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 2:47:22 AM UTC-5, Abe D wrote:
 
> Unfortunately, the board cannot be replaced.
 
> Thanks in advance.
 
> Abe
 
It's too late now but repairing board with a topical coating of epoxy is not the way to stabilize it. The epoxy acts like a top hinge and the bottom of the board will flex away from the crack. To make it more stable, you have to add some epoxy on the other side and hope it adheres.
 
The proper way to repair a fractured board is to remove any component(s) that crosses the break, and fit the board pieces back together where the seam doesn't even show. You may actually have to break the board a bit more to get it to fit perfectly.
 
At this point, apply FRESH cyanoacrylate so it wicks inside the fracture and bonds the board completely together from the inside, not just one side.
 
If done properly, the cracks will be barely visible. Scrape the green mask off the trace just at the break and half the distance the trace is wide. A drop of solder across each land will finish it.
 
In your case, because the pieces don't fit that well, scrape back the mask and hand wire from point to point and across the fracture with some fine copper stranded wire (one or more strands depending on width of the trace), and coat the entire trace with solder using the copper strand as a sort of "rebar".
 
Deflux the board and apply either a conformal coating or get some green nail polish to protect the lands.
micky <NONONOaddressee@rushpost.com>: Feb 02 12:41AM -0500

In the attic, my co-ax F-connector has separated from the coax, and
because of the age, 35 years, and the occaisional heat**, the white
vinly covering doesn't strech enough to replace the F-connector.
 
What to do?
 
I can strip the outer vinyl back and then just crimp on the braid.
Would that be okay?
 
If not, what? Running a new cable is almost beyond me now that I'm 35
years older.
 
 
 
**Roof fan all this time which kept it undder 85 or 90, except a few
days when the fan was broken.
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Feb 02 05:22AM -0800

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 12:41:24 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
> years older.
 
> **Roof fan all this time which kept it undder 85 or 90, except a few
> days when the fan was broken.
 
 
First determine if it's RG59 or 60, then acquire the appropriate connector. Cut off the old end and strip back to fresh copper and braid. If you don't have a crimping tool and don't want to invest in one, you can get thread on type F connectors.
 
https://www.amazon.com/GE-Coaxial-Connector-Weather-73512/dp/B003YKG9FS
 
If you must do it this way, I'd give it a little coating of dielectric grease before threading it all together.
 
Probably last 10 to 20 more years assuming the cable is in good shape.
jaugustine@verizon.net: Feb 02 07:26AM -0500


>> Thank You in advance, John
 
>Guess this is the stripped/desk version of the 200XLT handheld.
>Manualslib has a service manuals for the the 200XLT
 
Hi,
This is NOT a handheld unit. I should have mentioned
that.
John
etpm@whidbey.com: Feb 01 05:14PM -0800

Hey All,
I have a lathe with a FUJI-FRENIC Spindle Drive. The machine dates
from the lathe 1980s. Today there was a big power surge and one of the
3 MOVs on the input for the drive exploded. A "Super Rapid Fuse", also
made by Fuji, blew too.
I cut off the bad MOV, replaced the fuse, and the drive works
again. Yay for MOVs and Super Rapid Fuses.
But I can't find the data for the MOV so I can buy a new set of 3.
There are 2 MOVs left in the drive that can be read, the exploded one
is completely unreadable. The marking on one MOV is ENB401 40. The
other one is marked ENB401 48. I looked at the markings and there is
no mistake, one is marked 40 and the other 48. The way the MOVs are
mounted in the drive makes it obvious that they were installed as a
set. 3 MOVs and 3 capacitors have their leads crimped together into
lugs so that the whole assembly can be mounted to 3 screws on the
terminal block that holds the fuses.
Looking for datasheets all I can find are ENB401D numbers with
other numbers that follow the ENB401D characters. So I just don't know
how to cross reference what I have to what is available now.
Apparently the diameter of the MOV is important as part of the rating.
Mine measure 16MM but that is measuring over clear heat shrink so I
think the disc inside is actually 14MM.
Can anybody here help? Please?
I can run the machine without one of the MOVs but I am reluctant to
do so, especially because of the weather we are having that is causing
the power outages and surges.
Thanks,
Eric
J-J <none@none.non>: Feb 01 03:18PM -0500

>> under $10, am I?
 
> If you're willing to experiment. I gave you a clay-free rubber stamp ink formula that costs nothing to make. I've not tried it in your app.
 
> NT
 
Yes, I guess you did. Unfortunately, I don't think I have any of that
stuff on hand. All I might be able to obtain is mineral oil later
today. Maybe I could try mixing a drop of that with the ink?
 
Well, the good news is that a VERY thin trace was made over a one day
period using nothing other than the Staples oil based ink and my packing
taped backed printer paper. Enough of a trace with falling barometric
pressure that I could see that the barograph at least works. I would
still like to get week's trace out of it though. I suspect the paper
I've devised isn't very absorbent, so any cheap modifications I could
try in a pinch would be welcome. Perhaps doubling (or tripling) up the
sheets next time around?
J-J <none@none.non>: Feb 01 03:20PM -0500


> Oh, I remember an ink experiment ... vegetable oil & powder toner. Soot is also usable but not nearly as convenient, as there is the issue of particle size.
 
> Anyway, why not use a biro?
 
> NT
 
What's a biro?
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macvenumillan@gmail.com: Feb 01 06:58AM -0800

On Thursday, March 4, 2010 at 8:59:07 PM UTC-6, Mac Morino wrote:
> Instructor's solutions manual for Mathematical Methods in the Physical
> Sciences; 3 edition by Mary L. Boas
> Instructor's solutions manual for Mathematic...
 
Hi,
I want the Instructor's solutions manual for Differential Equations & Linear
Algebra 3rd ed by C. Henry Edwards & David E. Penney
Thanks.
"malua mada!" <fritzo2ster@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:25PM -0800

Too often when I reach for the can of WD-40 I find it has lost pressure. Or the smart straw thing fell apart.
Buying the tiny cans is expensive. Filling the liquid into a utility spray bottle works until the pump quits or leaks which happens all too soon.
 
What do you all use?
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Jan 31 12:42PM -0800

On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 3:25:32 PM UTC-5, malua mada! wrote:
> Too often when I reach for the can of WD-40 I find it has lost pressure. Or the smart straw thing fell apart.
> Buying the tiny cans is expensive. Filling the liquid into a utility spray bottle works until the pump quits or leaks which happens all too soon.
 
> What do you all use?
 
https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Aluminum-Pneumatic-Refillable-Compressed/dp/B00JKED4MS This, and...
 
https://www.wagnersupply.com/p/WD4-490118/WD-40-Bulk-Liquid-Gal/
 
This.
 
Not only for WD40, of course.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Feb 01 08:11AM +1100

On 1/02/2020 7:25 am, malua mada! wrote:
 
> Too often when I reach for the can of WD-40 I find it has lost pressure. Or the smart straw thing fell apart.
> Buying the tiny cans is expensive. Filling the liquid into a utility spray bottle works until the pump quits or leaks which happens all too soon.
 
> What do you all use?
 
**For what purpose? The WD-40 company manufacture a large range of
products for different applications. I use a couple of them for
different things:
 
https://wd40.com.au/products/
 
If you're referring to the original WD-40, well, I rarely use it. It has
it's uses, but they are quite limited. I prefer to use specialist
products for specific applications. I haven't counted, but I reckon I
have at least 15 can of different spray products for different applications.
 
--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Jan 31 04:12PM -0500

In article <29a54219-24a0-400d-a21a-9d112db144ee@googlegroups.com>,
fritzo2ster@gmail.com says...
 
> Too often when I reach for the can of WD-40 I find it has lost pressure. Or the smart straw thing fell apart.
> Buying the tiny cans is expensive. Filling the liquid into a utility spray bottle works until the pump quits or leaks which happens all too soon.
 
> What do you all use?
 
I don't use WD40 for anything.
 
Depends on what I want to do as to what I use.
 
For some general lube I sometimes use Dexatron ATF and kerosene mixed
50/50.
If you want a very degreaser and cleaner look the internet for Ed's Red.
 
 
Kroil for freeing up rusted nuts anda bolts. Heard PB Blaster is good
for that, but never tried it.
Jeff Urban <jurb6006@gmail.com>: Jan 31 03:04PM -0800

Well this doesn't solve your problem but LPS2 is much better.
 
I tape the straw to the nozzle. I mean masking tape (believe it or not it is the best thing) around the whole nozzle and then on to the straw, and then use a zip tie around the straw which is tightened by pliers. Well you take the cutter and nodlnees pliers and place them so you get maximum leverage. Make it "tick" one more time.
 
It is the nature of the material, not only are some parts possibly nylon, for which glue is prohibitively expensive, but the oil itself. I have considered high frequency welding but I do not know anyone who does that.
 
With WD-40 and even moreso with LPS2 if you put it in a non-pressurized vessel is will lose its aromatic components and thus some of its efficacy. Still beats most stuff.
tabbypurr@gmail.com: Jan 31 07:51PM -0800

On Friday, 31 January 2020 20:25:32 UTC, malua mada! wrote:
> Too often when I reach for the can of WD-40 I find it has lost pressure. Or the smart straw thing fell apart.
> Buying the tiny cans is expensive. Filling the liquid into a utility spray bottle works until the pump quits or leaks which happens all too soon.
 
> What do you all use?
 
Anything other than WD40. It's hard to find much that it's a good choice for. And IMHO aerosols are unjustifiably popular.
 
 
NT
Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>: Jan 31 10:27AM -0800

On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:16:47 PM UTC-5, Klay Anderson wrote:
> So--I've a tap and die set for plastic pipe (think sprinkler system). Any ideas for the best lube for threading same? Dry alone snaps the pipe. I think petroleum products will attack the plastic. Silicone?
 
I don't know what is "best," but last time I did this I used dish soap and it worked.
amdx <nojunk@knology.net>: Jan 31 10:57AM -0600

On 1/30/2020 6:26 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
>> of the computer on the computer.
 
> Those packages are sold as 'Up to' speeds, not guaranteed speeds.
 
> 38 Gigabytes per second? REALLY?
 
Error, ya that should have said 5MBPs and 38MBPs.
 
Mikek
tabbypurr@gmail.com: Jan 31 08:48AM -0800

On Friday, 31 January 2020 16:01:26 UTC, J-J wrote:
 
> the drum.
 
> I'm just not going to be able to get away with testing this thing for
> under $10, am I?
 
If you're willing to experiment. I gave you a clay-free rubber stamp ink formula that costs nothing to make. I've not tried it in your app.
 
 
NT
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