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TOPIC: Spam in this group!
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ed1870498aa982df?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 2:35 am
From: "Mark Zacharias"

"William R. Walsh" <wm_walsh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0676b0a5-bdbe-4551-bd78-c5e64b33b7ef@y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

<snip>
>
> The thing that bugs me about it is this: spammers don't stick around
> if their campaigns are not successful. And yet these spammers are here
> time and again with the same phony products! Someone almost certainly
> must be buying this crap...but who is it?
>
<snip>

I don't think they are so much interested in selling crap as getting people
to go to their websites so that they can install viruses, trojans,
keyloggers etc on one's computer.

Mark Z.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 8:29 am
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> I don't think they are so much interested in selling crap as getting
> people to go to their websites so that they can install viruses,
> trojans, keyloggers etc on one's computer.

I hadn't thought of that. Even so, I'd really be surprised if the
regulars in this newsgroup would engage in such risky behavior.

I've never been to any of the spamvertised sites and I never intend to
go there.

William

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 8:36 am
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> It looks as tho .yahoo is next for the spam bin.

That's something else I hadn't touched on...I'm also loathe to start
wholesalely blocking not so much because of my own interests but also
because there are people who for whatever reason will come here via
Google Groups or with a freely provided e-mail address who really do
need help with something.

Whether anyone would care to admit it or not, Google Groups is the one
"immediately obvious" choice for many of these people who have no idea
what Usenet is* or who have been unceremoniously booted off of the
real deal by their ISP.

I can put up with some annoyance (and I've developed some pretty good
filters that are catching 96% or so of the offending posts) if it
means being able to help someone out with a problem or question.

William

* yes, I know that some of these people behave in a dumb fashion.
However, there are some that don't suffer from that despite not
knowing what Usenet really is.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:19 am
From: Ron

On 28/04/2010 16:36, William R. Walsh wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> It looks as tho .yahoo is next for the spam bin.
>
> That's something else I hadn't touched on...I'm also loathe to start
> wholesalely blocking not so much because of my own interests but also
> because there are people who for whatever reason will come here via
> Google Groups or with a freely provided e-mail address who really do
> need help with something.
>
> Whether anyone would care to admit it or not, Google Groups is the one
> "immediately obvious" choice for many of these people who have no idea
> what Usenet is* or who have been unceremoniously booted off of the
> real deal by their ISP.
>
> I can put up with some annoyance (and I've developed some pretty good
> filters that are catching 96% or so of the offending posts) if it
> means being able to help someone out with a problem or question.
>
> William
>
> * yes, I know that some of these people behave in a dumb fashion.
> However, there are some that don't suffer from that despite not
> knowing what Usenet really is.

@yahoo.cn is the one to block, in fact, probably anything ending in .cn!

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TOPIC: NJ Family Lawyer Charles Novins Accepts Apologies From Former Net
Abusers
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/094071d9078e21a9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 5:15 am
From: "Al Ekman"

Yet more Usenet posters have addressed Charles Novins publicly, all
expressing regret for past actions, and vowing to join him in the fight
against online abuse.

The original abuses and libels were spread across numerous groups, but often
originated in, "alt.usenet.kooks," which had become an "internet cesspool in
recent years.

A brief look is sufficient:
http://sikoz.notlong.com

Some posters insisted on public apologies, and several others have done the
fight thing privately; Many decided to correct their intemperate comments,
without the need for any resort to courts or formal agreements.

A few of those insisting on a public statement may be referenced at these
links:
http://apologee6.notlong.com
http://apologee7.notlong.com
http://apologee8.notlong.com
http://apologee.notlong.com

Meanwhile, the fight continues.

One attorney tried his hand at libel - while disbarred for other
infractions - and after getting his law license back, maintains a lower
profile:
http://allaboutmiguel.notlong.com
The typical libeler has more common drives, skin-color often being one.
This guy posts as "Henri:"
http://henreee.notlong.com
This anonymous hater seems to have a problem with Novins's Jewish heritage:
http://jewlawyer.notlong.com
Others have had trouble with the law, and can operate only online in
relative safety:
http://allaboutglb.notlong.com
Still others fight hard to keep the poisonous hate going - if the pointless
conflicts are resolved through apologies, retractions, they fear they'll be
seen as the "odd person out." These sorts have been hating and abusing for
so long, they know little else. This particular one eschews easy access for
others to her ravings, and removes them from the web. Her Usenet comments
are at Her Usenet comments are at message ID:
<3n4qf8.pu8.19.2@news.alt.net> Note the typical paranoia at the end.

The Law Offices of Charles Novins has become a clearinghouse for information
about anonymous internet stalkers, harrassers, abusers, and other online
undesirables. The firm also has acquired a large store of knowledge,
pleadings, and other useful materials aimed at dealing with the internet's
more unfortunate players.

Reach his firm at: http://charlesnovinsesq.com

--
Al Ekman
[This message has been sent to groups in which the original defamatory post
appeared]

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 7:20 am
From: "The Greatest"

"Al Ekman" <alekman@invalid.net> wrote in message news:3n5uf3.te9.19.1@news.alt.net...
> Yet more Usenet posters have addressed Charles Novins publicly, all
> expressing regret for past actions, and vowing to join him in the fight
> against online abuse.
>
> The original abuses and libels were spread across numerous groups, but often
> originated in, "alt.usenet.kooks," which had become an "internet cesspool in
> recent years.
>
> A brief look is sufficient:
> http://sikoz.notlong.com
>
> Some posters insisted on public apologies, and several others have done the
> fight thing privately; Many decided to correct their intemperate comments,
> without the need for any resort to courts or formal agreements.
>
> A few of those insisting on a public statement may be referenced at these
> links:
> http://apologee6.notlong.com
> http://apologee7.notlong.com
> http://apologee8.notlong.com
> http://apologee.notlong.com
>
> Meanwhile, the fight continues.
>
> One attorney tried his hand at libel - while disbarred for other
> infractions - and after getting his law license back, maintains a lower
> profile:
> http://allaboutmiguel.notlong.com
> The typical libeler has more common drives, skin-color often being one.
> This guy posts as "Henri:"
> http://henreee.notlong.com
> This anonymous hater seems to have a problem with Novins's Jewish heritage:
> http://jewlawyer.notlong.com
> Others have had trouble with the law, and can operate only online in
> relative safety:
> http://allaboutglb.notlong.com
> Still others fight hard to keep the poisonous hate going - if the pointless
> conflicts are resolved through apologies, retractions, they fear they'll be
> seen as the "odd person out." These sorts have been hating and abusing for
> so long, they know little else. This particular one eschews easy access for
> others to her ravings, and removes them from the web. Her Usenet comments
> are at Her Usenet comments are at message ID:
> <3n4qf8.pu8.19.2@news.alt.net> Note the typical paranoia at the end.
>
> The Law Offices of Charles Novins has become a clearinghouse for information
> about anonymous internet stalkers, harrassers, abusers, and other online
> undesirables. The firm also has acquired a large store of knowledge,
> pleadings, and other useful materials aimed at dealing with the internet's
> more unfortunate players.
>
> Reach his firm at: http://charlesnovinsesq.com
>
> --
> Al Ekman
> [This message has been sent to groups in which the original defamatory post
> appeared]

Well said, my good man.

There is now hope for a "New Beginning" in Usenet !!
--
HJ

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TOPIC: Sony KV-2784R horiz problem
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf85a32f811047d5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 7:21 am
From: bill@love.ranch

Sony KV-2784R died - horiz collapse - fuse F501 blown - pressing power
button causes TV to try to start then stops - very soft high freq buzz
is heard. Remote control will not start it. HOT and all diodes in area
test OK with ohmmeter. Fuse is somewhat blackened at end where it
seperated, so it wasn't a slight overload. I do not have schematics.
Is there any history of common component failures here.Just for ref, I
am very technical and had a repair shop in the 80's - this was built
11/86 - just after I closed the shop. So speak to me at that level,
thx.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 8:51 am
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> Remote control will not start it.

In light of that, are you sure that the low power/standby power supply
is working properly? Perhaps it sustained some damage during the
failure, or a protection circuit opened up?

William

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:55 am
From: klem kedidelhopper

On Apr 28, 11:51 am, "William R. Walsh" <wm_wa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Remote control will not start it.
>
> In light of that, are you sure that the low power/standby power supply
> is working properly? Perhaps it sustained some damage during the
> failure, or a protection circuit opened up?
>
> William

I've found that usually when a fuse is blackenend the problem is
generally close to the fuse like one of the bridge diodes. I'm
assuming you replaced the fuse and the ne one blew the same way? Look
for something dead shorted. Lenny

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:29 am
From: "David Farber"

bill@love.ranch wrote:
> Sony KV-2784R died - horiz collapse - fuse F501 blown - pressing power
> button causes TV to try to start then stops - very soft high freq buzz
> is heard. Remote control will not start it. HOT and all diodes in area
> test OK with ohmmeter. Fuse is somewhat blackened at end where it
> seperated, so it wasn't a slight overload. I do not have schematics.
> Is there any history of common component failures here.Just for ref, I
> am very technical and had a repair shop in the 80's - this was built
> 11/86 - just after I closed the shop. So speak to me at that level,
> thx.

If you post your e-mail address, I can help you with the schematic.

--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA

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TOPIC: BE HAPPY- WATCH VIDEOS
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9d398cc212a3093c?hl=en
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TOPIC: CLICK AND SEE THE BEAUTY
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/23cedccb3f3372a0?hl=en
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TOPIC: LOOK BEAUTIFUL RUSSIAN GIRLS
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TOPIC: RUSSIAN BRIDE WAITING FOR YOU
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TOPIC: Norver model NU-1C single channel FM and subcarrier receiver.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f9ecaac9fedc6567?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:49 am
From: klem kedidelhopper

Is anyone familiar with these radios? They were originally furnished
to the blind. This one appears to be tuned to 90.1MHZ. I don't know if
there is still any sub carrier stuff around but in any case I would
like to see if I can change the receiver frequency. There is a crystal
but perhaps there may be enough room to move without replacing it.
Thanks, Lenny

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:05 am
From: "tm"

"klem kedidelhopper" <captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0d41dcbc-7977-4a6e-9492-1306e9019df4@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> Is anyone familiar with these radios? They were originally furnished
> to the blind. This one appears to be tuned to 90.1MHZ. I don't know if
> there is still any sub carrier stuff around but in any case I would
> like to see if I can change the receiver frequency. There is a crystal
> but perhaps there may be enough room to move without replacing it.
> Thanks, Lenny

FM channels are on 200 kHz centers. I doubt you will be able to rubber the
xtal that far.

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TOPIC: mechanical zero on a small meter
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/16d5f64649d4746e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:32 am
From: "Paul Hovnanian P.E."

Andrew VK3BFA wrote:

> On Mar 17, 11:57 am, "Dave M" <dgminala4...@mediacombb.net> wrote:
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:32:28 -0800 (PST), klem kedidelhopper
>> > <captainvideo462...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> After setting zero I moved my finger over the meter face first thing
>> >> in the morning and the needle moved up scale about 10 percent. I let
>> >> it sit on the bench for about 24 hours without touching it. When I
>> >> looked at it again it was back to zero. So the trick is to set it,
>> >> leave it for a day let it discharge, and then tweak it again. Clumsy
>> >> procedure but it works. Glad this is my own equipment and not a
>> >> customer repair job....Lenny
>>
>> > Nice workaround. So it is static. Is this NORMAL for a small panel
>> > meter? We don't have much of a static problem on the left coast, so I
>> > don't see much of that. I waved my hand around various small panel
>> > meters around the shop. No deflection.
>>
>> The easiest and best solution is to eliminate the static charge by
>> rubbing the meter face with a clothes dryer anti-cling sheet.
>> Alternatively, buy a bottle of anti-cling spray and give the meter a ligh
>> misting. That will dissipate the static charge and you can handle the
>> meter as you wish without upsetting the zero setting.
>>
>> --
>> David
>> dgminala at mediacombb dot net
>
> This all sounds terribly bizarre - Its a moving coil meter, it might
> go "whack" on getting a static charge, but a steady reading? - must be
> an INCREDIBLY sensitive meter movement- femtoamps? - have a look at
> the output of the op amp, preferably with an analogue meter - (as
> suggested) (no signal, 0 output) and the bias resistors around it.
> Especially the high value (>100k ones) (any Tantalum capacitors,
> replace them)
> (sorry Dave - a view from the trenches)
>
> Andrew VK3BFA.
>
> PS - its axiomatic that the thing causing the fault is in the least
> accessible section of the cct. A variation of Murphys Law.

I think the static charge thing refers to a force produced directly by a
static charge on the plastic meter face acting against the needle, not a
current flowing through the coil.

--
Paul Hovnanian paul@hovnanian.com
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Have gnu, will travel.

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TOPIC: OT: Don't try this at home.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/654bc359eac6fafb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:44 am
From: "David Farber"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100427/od_nm/us_germany_meathook_odd

But the comments look like they might have come from this ng. (-:

--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 11:34 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

Confusing.

Transmission lines are usually at a higher voltage. How did he step it down?
For that matter, how did he connect it to his distribution box?

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TOPIC: Norcent 42" Plasma TV
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/dc65f11e8d184f39?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:45 am
From: "Chris F."

Someone recently brought in a Norcent PT4235 plasma TV. It had apparently
"just quit". When I plug it in, the relays click a couple of times like it's
trying to start, and a bit of static flashes on the screen, but that's it.
I looked under the back cover and didn't see any bulged or leaking caps,
nor did I find any obvious shorts in the many high-wattage transistors.
Before I go any further with this, I'd like to know if there are any known
issues that someone could point me to. This set has a massive number of
power supplies in it, and I really don't want to waste several hours on
something that may not be fixable in the first place. This is a very cheap
brand of set (retailed for just $700 new), so I doubt it's worth spending
much time on.
Thanks for any advice.

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TOPIC: ATX power supply fan noisy.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c9cc85470d364e01?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 10:53 am
From: "David Farber"

I would like to replace this two-wire, 80mm square, power supply fan. The
power supply is used in an AudioReQuest music server and is powered on
continuously. The part number is, NMB-MAT 7 followed by a model number of,
3110GL-B4W-B54. 12V DC, 0.30A. I've found a few places online that have them
listed but when I call they, don't have them in stock or the price is
prohibitively expensive. Is there some generic fan that will replace this
and not cost more than the power supply itself?

Thanks for your reply.
--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 11:09 am
From: Adrian C

On 28/04/2010 18:53, David Farber wrote:
> I would like to replace this two-wire, 80mm square, power supply fan. The
> power supply is used in an AudioReQuest music server and is powered on
> continuously. The part number is, NMB-MAT 7 followed by a model number of,
> 3110GL-B4W-B54. 12V DC, 0.30A. I've found a few places online that have them
> listed but when I call they, don't have them in stock or the price is
> prohibitively expensive. Is there some generic fan that will replace this
> and not cost more than the power supply itself?

Get the data sheet for that fan (it's probably old, hence out of
production), and compare with the information available on this page for
newer fans.

http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/

Then find your local retailers for the equivalent.

--
Adrian C

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 28 2010 11:32 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

Is there a Fry's near you? It has a variety of fans, in various sizes. You
can probably find a close or exact match.

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