Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 4 topics

bje@ripco.com: Nov 25 12:02PM

Hey All,
 
I know a few of you work on repairing LCD tv's and before I toss this set
out (it's personal, not customer), I was wondering if anyone ran across a
problem where for lack of a better explanation, the backlight for the LCD
panel is drawing excess current, even though there is no visual problem with
the backlight. The set still has a bright picture, isn't shading one side
over the other (or is it top and bottom?) the color temp seems normal all
the way around.
 
It's about a 10 year old Samsung SyncMaster P2570HD.
 
The long story, over the summer I noticed the smell of "something buring" in
the office the set was parked in but couldn't tell where it was coming from.
A couple weeks later, about 20 minutes after turning the tv on, the picture
went out, the set was still on, still had audio but solid black.
 
After searching around for disassembly help (snaps mostly, no screws) the
problem was obvious, a (probable 2W) resistor was charcol black along with
the circuit board and foil traces underneath. The resistor measured around
400K still and as with other Samsung monitors/tv's, the board was populated
with those 820uf/25V caps that always seem to fail.
 
So I replaced all the caps, took a guess at 390K for the resistor, patched
the foil traces and fired it up. Worked perfectly.
 
But, in about 15~20 minutes, the smell came back. The resistor was
overheating again.
 
Off to search for a schematic, which does seem to exist at serveral of the
sites, but none of them match. The power supply module is a IP-58155A but all
the schematics I found for that part number is actually for a IP-54155B, not
the same animal.
 
But they do show R301 (the resistor that overheats) as a 390K.
 
Anyway, in the search for more schematics one hit returned an Ebay auction
for the exact power supply module (IP-58155A), $35 with free shipping, sold
american.
 
The module came a few days later and appeared to be brand new, really. No
indication it was ever used or repaired.
 
Put it in and as you can guess, 15~20 minutes later, that burning smell came
back.
 
Looking at the foil traces, one side of it (R301) is directly connected to
the connectors for the lamp feed, where neither of the online schematics
shows that. With the two connectors for the lamp assembly disconnected, the
resistor is cool as a cucumber with the set running (duh).
 
So that is what leads me to asking if the lamps can possibly be drawing
excessive current, even though they seem to be fine with brightness and
function?
 
I mean I know the repair would require replacing the whole panel which isn't
worth it but I'm curious if there is anything else in the panel besides the
lamps that can cause that resistor to overheat.
 
Normally something that large (2W) would require a dead short (or close to
it) for it to turn to charcoal like the original.
 
Any guesses?
 
-bruce
bje@ripco.com
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Nov 25 05:18AM -0800

Have you done anything with the settings? Most TVs come from the factory on "display mode" with all settings at maximum. Which, of course would max out the power-supply.
 
Find the "Settings" mode and crank down the brightness and balance the colors to something more realistic.
 
Note: Depending on the design of the unit, you will have to reset each time there is a power-failure of more than a very few minutes. They should be checked every so often, anyway.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 25 02:48AM -0600

>>> all."
 
>> I think I can see your problem now: you're a MORON.
 
> he's become slowman mark 2, a fool with a problem.
 
Speaking of slow.
I said he was a hack.
He has finally admitted to being a hack.
I said you were a hack.
I stand by my observation.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 25 02:45AM -0600

>> KF'd him. You can waste *so* much time on pricks like that if you're not
>> careful.
 
> he's aping slowman.
 
Get a room you two.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org: Nov 25 07:06AM

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
> probably custom jobs I don't think there's enough demand for
> globes of larger size to make an industry of selling anything but
> one-offs.
 
https://www.metalsphere.com/product/aluminum-half-sphere/
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