Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 2 topics

Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>: May 25 05:15PM -0700

You would be surprised what gets repaired and used again in third world countries.
Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: May 26 09:34AM +0100

In article <1uioag5fri8inn0j3hdb0jble4iekicuim@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...
 
> Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?
 
> I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
> take my CRT tvs.
 
Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)
 
When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.
 
I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...
Bod <bodron57@yahoo.co.uk>: May 26 09:57AM +0100

On 26/05/2021 09:34, Mike Coon wrote:
> them some distance to the water where they would implode.
 
> I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
> on the girders while still being held by the child...
 
Was that part of a science lesson in those days? ;-)
HW <none@no.no>: May 26 01:24PM +0200

On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:10:15 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
 
>>free. It does not matter where it was bought or how old it is.
 
>And do they actually recycle it? Take it apart and save resusable
>minerals?
 
The official story is yes. There are companies that are approved for
collecting (from the vendors) and recycling. Here's how one of them
presents itself:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0UH6fIiz8
 
(Don't worry about not understanding the Norwegian text. It is just as
pretentious as the video and music.)
 
>But what happens to it? If they just put in a landfill, that would be
>no better than here.
 
Over the years, there have been a few incidents where nosy journalists
have found hundreds of tons of Norwegian e-waste in remote African
villages. Let's hope that's no longer happening.
"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com>: May 26 12:47PM +0100


>> Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?
 
> Best Buy will recycle electronics. They charge $25 for any display
> (no matter what the size) and everything else is free.
 
Take it to the skip for free.
"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com>: May 26 12:49PM +0100


>> Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?
 
> Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
> computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.
 
I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!
 
>> I actually found a recycler in driving distance
>> who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.
 
> That's certainly a bit dubious.
 
Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.
 
>> find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....
 
>> A westell DSL modem Hub
 
> None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.
 
We have fibre optics.
 
> their house.
 
>> a router without wifi?
 
> A few do still use those.
 
I virtually never use my wifi. It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects on it which would eat 4G data.
"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com>: May 26 12:53PM +0100

> thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
> what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
> him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.
 
A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car batteries (well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of my garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I think you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit.
 
> put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.
 
> I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
> I'm not ready for that yet.
 
Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle, there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.
T i m <news@spaced.me.uk>: May 26 12:53PM +0100

On Tue, 25 May 2021 17:15:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>You would be surprised what gets repaired and used again in third world countries.
 
And 1st world, if you are willing to give it a go. ;-)
 
Daughter is currently enjoying a 40" Sony TFT TV that was about to be
thrown away for the cost of a capacitor. ;-)
 
I have a 23" Dell TFT monitor courtesy of my next door neighbour that
just needed a cheap SMPSU from China. ;-)
 
(I'm still working on the 12V 20A SMPS out of my 3D printer, awaiting
the switcher device). ;-)
 
Cheers, T i m
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: May 26 05:07AM -0700

I have put stuff on "curb-alert" with Craig's List with 100% success - defined as *stuff gone within five (5) days*. This includes everything from old toilets & sinks to questionable electronics. Anything that has even a smidgen of residual appeal (to me) goes to Kutztown for the Buy-it-Now pile. The most amazing(ly awful) stuff gets a new home from that source.
 
But, I agree that for the most part, many things find their way to landfill due to very minor failures combined, the rarity of good repair options, and the cheapness of replacements.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: May 26 11:21AM -0400

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
>them some distance to the water where they would implode.
 
>I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
>on the girders while still being held by the child...
 
I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.
 
No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: May 25 02:59PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 5:48:49 PM UTC-4, bruce bowser wrote:
 
> Use your laptop as an oscilloscope (app)
> -- https://www.instructables.com/Use-Your-Laptop-as-Oscilloscope/
 
20Hz to 20 KHz is barely usable for audio. There are cheap digital scope kits on Ebay. That article requires an app that sells for $10. Why not add a bit more and get something that actually works?
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264678652376 is DC to 200 KHz and is under $20.
 
My current scope is a Tektronix 2465A. It is four channel, and its -3dB point is 350 MHz. I got it for $189.42 on Ebay.
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