Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 1 topic

ABLE1 <somewhere@nowhere.net>: Sep 10 02:13PM -0400

On 9/10/2021 11:29 AM, David Farber wrote:
> --
> David Farber
> Los Osos, CA
 
David,
 
If the unit was designed with out some kind of safety switch when a out
of balance load occurs then that is not the issue since they don't
exist. However, if there is a out of balance switch that is partially
stuck then it would never get in the high spin cycle in the first place.
 
Your description of "out of balance" tells me that a safety switch to
shut down does not exist. Which tells me the design engineering was
missing something in order to cut co$t!! Sad!!!
 
Have a good weekend.
 
Les
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Sep 10 01:39PM -0700

On 9/10/2021 11:13 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
> missing something in order to cut co$t!!  Sad!!!
 
> Have a good weekend.
 
> Les
 
Hi Les,
 
You make a good point about design vs. cost. Because of this, I never
leave the house when the washing machine is running.
 
Thanks for your reply.
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
ABLE1 <somewhere@nowhere.net>: Sep 10 05:04PM -0400

On 9/10/2021 4:39 PM, David Farber wrote:
> --
> David Farber
> Los Osos, CA
 
David,
 
The same applies to my wife that will not ever leave the
house when the gas dryer is running. She made that
decision after the wiring behind the the dryer caught FIRE!!
It was the best house fire ever!! Just smoke damage and a
bit of drywall repair. Spent a night in a Motel while the
house was de-fumed from the smell. :-)
 
Again have a good weekend!!
 
Les
Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: Sep 10 06:01PM -0400

In article <zLP_I.27323$tA2.12492@fx02.iad>, somewhere@nowhere.net
says...
> It was the best house fire ever!! Just smoke damage and a
> bit of drywall repair. Spent a night in a Motel while the
> house was de-fumed from the smell. :-)
 
A friend had a dish washer catch on fire while he was out of the house.
Not too much actual damage to the house except for the smoke. Almost
everything in the house needed cleaning . He was out of the house for
several months for the smoke cleaning.
 
I try not to leave the house when the washer, drier or dish washer is
running and everything is electric.
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Sep 11 04:45AM -0700

While there is nothing at all wrong with being tethered to a house when certain appliances are in operation, please understand that such failures as described did not happen spontaneously - but for (usually) a good and often obvious reason. And, at bottom, never a surprise.
 
- Damaged wiring: Wiring that has been compromised by age, friction, impact, vermin or other physical causes. This may be prevented by reasonably frequent inspections. After all, it is right there.
- Incorrect or poorly installed wiring: Under-sized wire, bad receptacle, cut ground , all the sorts of things that happen in a thoughtless environment.
- Simple stupidity: Allowing lint to build up, compromised vent. flammable liquids stored nearby, you get the picture.
 
Over the years, I have seen a number of issues brought up here that are born of the 'wait until it breaks' school of maintenance vs. the 'preventive maintenance' school. That is all to often tragic behavior, very nearly always costly, and very much always terribly inconvenient.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
ABLE1 <somewhere@nowhere.net>: Sep 11 08:30AM -0400

On 9/11/2021 7:45 AM, Peter W. wrote:
 
> Over the years, I have seen a number of issues brought up here that are born of the 'wait until it breaks' school of maintenance vs. the 'preventive maintenance' school. That is all to often tragic behavior, very nearly always costly, and very much always terribly inconvenient.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Peter,
 
Now that the subject has changed a bit.............
 
I was a Maintenance Supervisor for 14 Years in Manufacturing.
I did a huge amount of Preventive Maintenance for all of those
14 years. And now that I have my own business for the past 32 years
I can say that what you typed above is 100% correct. And in a perfect
world there should be NO bad things that ever happen!!!
 
However, even in a Perfect World there has to be some room for the
negative stuff to happen. If it didn't then there would be no reason
for anybody to find fault in what just happened. Over time things build
up, things change and things wear out. Presently "IDA" comes
to my mind to be one of those negative things that happens..........
 
BTW for my Dryer it was 20 years old and the wiring from Mfg. was
mostly in a bad location and/or poor design from the start and ended
up igniting. My wife used an extinguisher to put out the flames
and dialed 911. I actually broke the land speed record and followed
one of the truck to my house. When I walked into the laundry there
were two fire guys with a thermoscope looking at the wall behind the
dryer shaking their heads. I said, I know you OWN My House at this
time, do what you have to do but, be gentle, because I am the guy that
has to fix it. They ended up cutting a hole in the drywall to find
there was nothing smoldering. It was a rather easy fix!!
 
Now this discussion thread can go on for another few weeks. I
personally will not contribute any further since I know how this
"stuff" goes in the "newsgroups".
 
Have a good weekend.
 
Les
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