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Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Dec 30 11:01AM -0600

On 12/30/21 6:31 AM, Peter W. wrote:
 
> Because we are not stupid.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Neither am I.
We got our shots in March, and the booster in September.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Dec 30 10:54AM -0800

On 2021/12/30 9:01 a.m., Fox's Mercantile wrote:
>> Melrose Park, PA
 
> Neither am I.
> We got our shots in March, and the booster in September.
 
Yeah I've had the original two shots and the booster. I've also had my
Polio, Scarlet Fever, Typhoid, Smallpox, and other shots that were
required for travel, staying a healthy adult, or being a child of the 50s...
 
A friend of mine has mild polio, he got it as a child in Asia - shots
weren't available there at the time.
 
I'm not an idiot about shots - although the jury is out on other things...
 
John :-#)#
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 30 12:12PM -0700

On 12/29/2021 07:01 PM, knuttle wrote:
>> pour a slug of SeaFoam into the tank and see what happens. No more
>> sputtering, decision loop complete.
 
> What does all those smoke particles do to the super expensive cats?
 
The cat adopted me; the only cost is cat food and he's happy with
Friskies. Oh, you meant catalytic converters? Let me explain a Harley's
exhaust system. I've got one set of mufflers with tabs near the end so
if a cop shoves a stick it he will think there are actually baffles.
 
The Toyota is the only thing I have with a cat. I've had three of the
same model and never had fuel problems so no need for SeaFoam. I don't
use the 'injector cleaner' snake oil either.
 
I use Stabil in the tanks of the stuff that will be down for the winter
but I've had long debates with myself over whether it's necessary.
 
That's another interesting discussion -- how much of the snake oil
actually has a beneficial effect. STP oil or gas? Marvel Mystery Oil?
Bar's Stop Leak. I have used Bar's with some success but it was in a
'62 Dodge D100. I don't think I'd use it in anything made in this century.
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 30 02:17PM -0500

On 12/29/2021 11:37 PM, Bob F wrote:
 
>>>> You wasted your time.
 
>>> Plonk.
 
>> Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!
 
Bob F. is likely Pawlowski becuase he knows Pawlowski is in everyone's
killfile already so Bob F re-posts Pawlowski's idiocy.
 
1. Pawlowski is a rabid Democrat (I'm not political - he is).
2. Because he's a rabid Democrat, he believes _everything_ they tell him.
3. One of those things he believes is it's "*My body _my_ choice*"
 
Yet, when it comes to the "vaccine", Pawlowski says it's NOT your choice.
a. Pawlowski believes with the vaccine it's "*Your body _HIS_ choice*"
b. He's "being honest" when he tells us this crap (which Democrats fed him)
c. I'm "being honest" also - when I say that only an idiot thinks that way
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 30 02:27PM -0500

On 12/29/2021 11:37 PM, Bob F wrote:
 
>> Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!
 
> Getting plonked by the nutto. Priceless!
 
You rabid Democrats don't seem to like any scientific statements because
they're true and that's why you can't refute them other than to claim that
anyone speaking true statements must be a nutto.
 
This BobF already said anyone who speaks logic must be from the far right.
Now he says anyone speaking true scientific statements must be a nutto.
 
The clock is still ticking on you rabid Democrats (or even any rabid
Republicans out there and even any people of even average intelligence) on
finding a single scientific statement that I've made that you found even a
single incorrect statement that you can show is incorrect.
 
So far you haven't found one (for example, you repeatedly claimed mRNA isn't
genetic material and then you claimed a medical procedure involving
injections isn't under the realm of medical therapy and then you claimed
that the risk of dying from Covid for kids in the USA wasn't 0.002% (that
is, they have a 99.998% chance of NOT dying) nor that the risk for all
adults (including the ones so sick they're going to die soon anyway) is only
0.2% (which means the risk to any one person of not dying is 99.8%).
 
When it comes to the scientific fact that most people are naturally immune
to Covid you rabid Democrats failed to comprehend that this means both the
seropositive and the seronegative people because you don't seem to like the
fact that far more than half the population exhibits zero symptoms to Covid.
 
What's surprising is that Covid is indeed a dangerous disease in that all
those asymptomatic people (at least the seropositive ones) can and do infect
others (despite the early claims from the WHO that it would be "very rare").
 
But I form that understanding of the disease from scientific facts.
You rabid {Democrats,Republicans} form your basis only on intense fright.
 
You call anyone who speaks logic using scientific facts a "nutto."
I suspect it's because you don't understrand logic and scientific facts.
 
You're ignorant (which is fine) but you're also stupid.
Because you're stupid, you'll remain ignorant of all the scientific facts.
 
The Democrat's line of "your body MY choice" appeals to you.
Not on the basis of logic. Not on the basis os scientific fact.
 
Merely on the basis of your own undeniably uncontrollable fear.
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 30 02:51PM -0500

On 12/30/2021 12:03 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> Religion. Real shame those people can't separate religion from
> politics. You'd think that they'd be smarter. Once you allow a god to
> tell you what you should do all limits are off.
 
What I'm about to explain below is long - but it explains everything.
And I mean everything.
 
However, the reader must be of at least average intelligence to benefit.
The ignorance of people can be cured by reading but their stupidity can't.
 
The rabid {Democrats,Republicans} position on these two issues is unsound.
a. The rabid Democrats' position on the vaccine NOT being your choice.
b. The rabid Republicans' position on abortion being based on religion.
 
We've hashed out how asinine the Democrats' position is where only an idiot
wouldn't instantly notice how firmly they stand on the principle of your
choice of "some" medical procedures but it's no longer your choice on
others.
 
Either these rabid Democrats firmly stand on the same resolute principle for
both or they instantly prove *they don't give a shit about medical choice*.
 
The same firm principles should stand for abortion.
 
The scientific facts are that abortion is a very ugly thing indeed.
In New York state, for example, you can abort at 9 months and beyond.
 
As longs as that innocent child hasn't been born - you can abort in NY.
They don't even make any pretext about the ability to survive on its own.
 
The ostensible argument is a medical necessity & privacy argument (as
enshrined in the Supreme Court so we can't realistically hash it out here).
 
Just as the rabid Democrats hate that people have a right to own guns (as
enshrined in the Constitution so we're not going to hash that out here), the
rabid Republicans hate that people have a right to abort their unborn child.
 
The problem for intelligent people to realize is _how_ they each go about
eliminating your current rights (as enshrined in the law of the land today).
 
What's rather interesting is my observation that both actually go about
taking away your rights the same way anyone goes about attacking a fortres.
 
The Germans chipped away for a while at Fortress Europe and then when they
invaded Poland everyone realized they would incessantly chip away (each time
claiming that's their _last_ attack) until nothing was left.
 
They'll never stop.
Only until France & Britain drew a line in the sand did they stop for pause.
But even then, they didn't attack the Fortress Maginot directly.
Nobody sane attacks the Constitution directly.
They find a way to eliminate your rights with a million little attacks.
 
Every law the rabid {Democrats,Republicans} make on {guns,abortion} are an
attempt to chip away at your rights until you no longer have those rights.
 
The only sensible protection you have is to draw a line in the sand.
It's how _all_ military attacks against anyone have ever worked.
 
The Japanese didn't go frontal against Washington DC in WWII.
They attacked the easier outlying islands instead.
 
Why?
Because they wanted to chip away slowly.
They and the Germans and Atilla the Hun and the Mongols and everyone in
history from the Mysterious Sea Peoples to Alexander to Hannibal & Scipio,
to Vercingetorix to Arminius (fast forward) to today do the same thing.
 
Everyone. In all human history. They all do the same thing.
It takes only an average intelligence (no more needed than that) to see it.
 
If you can't go frontal against the fortress, you chip away forever.
Until the walls fall down and you finally massacre everyone inside at will.
 
Only an _intelligent_ person can see what the rabid politicians are doing.
a. The rabid Democrats are chipping away at your right to own a gun
b. The rabid Republicans are chipping away at your right to abort a child
 
It doesn't matter to them any principle.
That's what any intelligent person can see.
 
You can easily tell principle doesn't matter if you're intelligent.
a. The rabid Democrats don't give a shit about "your body" "your choice"
b. The rabid Republicans don't give a shit about "your medical privacy"
 
Each wants to eliminate one of your rights.
Unfortunately, history shows clearly there is only one way to defend.
 
And that is to draw a line in the sand and defend against every parry.
(If you can come up with a better defense, you'll change history.)
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 30 03:02PM -0500

On 12/30/2021 2:12 PM, rbowman wrote:
 
> actually has a beneficial effect. STP oil or gas? Marvel Mystery Oil?
> Bar's Stop Leak. I have used Bar's with some success but it was in a
> '62 Dodge D100. I don't think I'd use it in anything made in this century.
 
You seem to be intelligent so you immediately understood what I was saying.
 
1. Some stuff is pure snake oil (devoid of any benefits)
2. Some stuff works ok (but it has negatives they don't tell you about)
 
My comment about the cats is I've seen what comes out the pipe when engines
ingest that stuff and it's not pretty if you wince at the loss of your cats.
 
Now I'm well aware that everything has pros and cons, just like high zinc
engine oil is great for diesels and non-cat vehicles but it's terrible on
the cats.
 
The problem with all these miracle cures in a can that I see is that the can
may not even tell you that zinc will ruin your cat - they just tell you how
great zinc is in motor oil. You're supposed to _know_ zinc ruins your cats.
 
It's a question I ask of all miracle cures because I don't know the answer.
What does seafoam do to the cats?
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net>: Dec 30 03:19PM -0500

On 12/30/2021 12:25 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> Bumps on the soles of boots are called "lugs".
 
To be clear there were two reasons I corrected my use of lug bolt.
 
One was that the word police have been attacking me for using the correct
scientific words for what mRNA is (as you're likely well aware) and even for
their lack of understanding of what it means that most people are immune to
covid (more than half anyway, whether seropositive or seronegative it seems)
and even for my use of the medical therapy terms.
 
Basically they don't believe in science so what they do is attack science by
claiming that the words used aren't words that they would rather you use.
 
The words they want you to use make things sound different to them.
 
An example is how these rabid Democrats spit out that 700,000 people died of
Covid in the US and yet at the same time they _refute_ that the risk to any
one USA individual is only 0.2% (if we know nothing else about them, which
is also inherent in the 700,000 number the rabid Democrats just spit out).
 
Do you see what I see which is that they hate any accurate number that any
one individual must assess but they love the same accurate number when it
shows (what seems to them to be a bigger) risk to the entire population?
 
Essentially they only understand scientific facts that make them feel more
scared. They seem to intensely dislike scientific facts that don't appear to
make the problem far worse than it, scientifically speaking, actually is.
 
They hated so much that most people are naturally immune to covid that they
argued that some people (very few) are apparently seronegative, even as that
means nothing in terms of the scientific fact that more than half the human
population is already naturally immune to covid (they feel no symptoms).
 
Of course everyone intelligent (except perhaps for Maria Van Kerkhove of the
WHO for some strange reason) knows the scientific fact that even this vast
majority of asymptomatic people can still almost as easily transmit covid
during the infectious period as a person who can who exhibits symptoms.
 
But did you see the huge lengths they went to about word semantics to deny
that all those scientific facts are, like it or not, scientific facts?
 
It's that kind of person I was defending against with my clarification of
lug as my ignorance can be cured but their stupidity cannot ever be cured.
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Dec 30 12:25PM -0800

What I would see offered in High School as suggestions for 'Rules of the Road':
 
a. Question Authority - Always:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke
b. Truth is repeatable, independently verifiable and amenable to testing.
c. Faith as revealed religion is none of those things.
d. Most -isms are only thinly disguised Faiths with a thinly disguise godhead such as the 'State' or some individual.
e. The difference between politicians of various parties is the lies that they tell as a natural part of their practice. That they are lying is not at issue.
f. The world owes you nothing. You owe the world your very existence. Protect it as without it, you would not be.
 
As it applies to troubleshooting:
1. That you find a problem does not make it the only problem.
2. That you fix a problem in an item does not make the item fixed.
3. 'Good enough' often isn't.
 
Keep in mind that the Average American:
 
Does not have a college education, including an Associate Degree (60%).
Does not have a passport (64%).
Speaks one language – badly (74%).
Has never traveled voluntarily more than 200 miles from his/her birthplace (57%).
Has never visited a foreign country, not even Mexico or Canada (71%).
Cannot name the Speaker of the House, even today (82%)
Cannot name the three branches of government (64%)
Cannot read at a college level (83%)
Cannot read for content (54%). This person cannot follow written-only directions.
60% of American Households do not buy any book in a year.
Does not believe in Evolution (42% creationism, 32% evolution, 26% no opinion).
Only 73% of eligible voters are registered.
Only 67% of registered voters voted in 2020.
Meaning that the average American eligible to vote does not vote (only 48.9% net). The Average American still does not vote.
 
This has not one damned thing to do with party, democrat, republican, libertarian, communist, green, whatever. It has to do with massive, systemic and deliberate neglect, and industrial-grade stupidity mixed equally with mil.Spec. ignorance. Quit your bitching - and work it out. It really is you, so only you can change it.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Dec 30 12:34PM -0800

Knuttle:
 
You are really challenging the Drongo from Down Under for the position of "Village Idiot"?
 
See, you will fail, as you are invincibly stupid - which cannot be fixed. Understand that it requires a basic level of talent to hold the Idiot position, and a recognizable defect that allows any given village resident to be sympathetic to your condition. You emphatically do not have the talent, your defects are entirely of your own making. But then, who knows, you may qualify in another venue, hopefully far from here.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Dec 30 03:38PM -0500

On 12/30/2021 2:17 PM, knuttle wrote:
> a. Pawlowski believes with the vaccine it's "*Your body _HIS_ choice*"
> b. He's "being honest" when he tells us this crap (which Democrats fed him)
> c. I'm "being honest" also - when I say that only an idiot thinks that way
 
It is impolite to speak about people you plonked. Worse, you are
spreading mis-information. I am a registered Independent and dislike
both parties equally.
 
You are attributing facts to me that do not exist. You make up stuff to
suite your stupid agenda and don't care about facts. Meantime, you go
off like a nut case. So be it, sensible people see you for what you are.
Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Dec 30 09:57PM +0100

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:12:34 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
 
 
> The cat adopted me;
 
Oh, no! Not THAT story again! I bet that cat adopted you because it realized
that you were the coolest person that ever walked the earth! <BG>
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Dec 30 01:28PM -0800

On 12/30/2021 12:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> You are attributing facts to me that do not exist.  You make up stuff to
> suite your stupid agenda and don't care about facts.  Meantime, you go
> off like a nut case.  So be it, sensible people see you for what you are.
 
Yes, we do.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 30 06:31PM -0700

On 12/30/2021 01:02 PM, knuttle wrote:
 
> My comment about the cats is I've seen what comes out the pipe when engines
> ingest that stuff and it's not pretty if you wince at the loss of your
> cats.
 
What's a little smoke? A friend had a '59 chevy and thought a dose of
STP would help. We understood smoke was involved so we adjourned to a
country road at the old swimming hole where there were no houses. To
make it even better, the Chevy was filled with random camping gear.
 
He was having trouble getting the STP down the carb throat, but there
was enough to generate a cloud. During the process a wandering NYS
Trooper stopped to check things out. He determined he was dealing with
two clueless but non-criminal nerds and that the camping stuff wasn't
stolen.
 
His parting words were 'By the way, gomer, that's STP oil treatment
you're trying to force down the carb with a butter knife. STP gas
treatment works a lot better.'
 
The friend went on to get his PhD in electronics and had a very
successful career but could be pretty dangerous in the real world. He
wasn't Indian but fit in with the common wisdom at RPI: 'If you wind up
with an Indian lab partner you've lucked out because they're brilliant.
Just don't let them anywhere near a screwdriver.'
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 30 06:33PM -0700

On 12/30/2021 12:17 PM, knuttle wrote:
> a. Pawlowski believes with the vaccine it's "*Your body _HIS_ choice*"
> b. He's "being honest" when he tells us this crap (which Democrats fed him)
> c. I'm "being honest" also - when I say that only an idiot thinks that way
 
Ed's a long time poster and often has worthwhile comments. However he
came down with a virulent case of TDS and hasn't been quite the same since.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Dec 30 09:17PM -0500

On 12/30/2021 8:33 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> way
 
> Ed's a long time poster and often has worthwhile comments. However he
> came down with a virulent case of TDS and hasn't been quite the same since.
 
That will pass in 2024. Maybe even 2022 but not sure yet.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 30 11:11PM -0700

On 12/30/2021 07:17 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> came down with a virulent case of TDS and hasn't been quite the same
>> since.
 
> That will pass in 2024. Maybe even 2022 but not sure yet.
 
I think 2022 will be a shambles for the Democrats. I hope to hell
somebody can come up with a candidate in 2024 that doesn't trigger my
gag reflex.
Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com>: Dec 30 11:23PM -0800

On 12/30/2021 10:11 PM, rbowman wrote:
 
> I think 2022 will be a shambles for the Democrats. I hope to hell
> somebody can come up with a candidate in 2024 that doesn't trigger my
> gag reflex.
DeSantis.
Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Dec 31 10:46AM +0100

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 23:11:33 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
 
 
> I think 2022 will be a shambles for the Democrats. I hope to hell
> somebody can come up with a candidate in 2024 that doesn't trigger my
> gag reflex.
 
Let's just hope they won't come up with a candidate that will trigger your
big mouth reflex again.
Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Dec 31 10:48AM +0100

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 18:31:15 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
 
 
> What's a little smoke? A friend had a '59 chevy and thought a dose of
 
Oh, no! It starts again...
 
<FLUSH more of the never-ending senile crap>
 
--
More of the usual idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
"It's been years since I've been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy's because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes."
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Dec 31 08:37AM -0500

On 12/31/2021 2:23 AM, Mike S wrote:
>> somebody can come up with a candidate in 2024 that doesn't trigger my
>> gag reflex.
> DeSantis.
 
He'll be worse than Trump. He likes being a little dictator.
"Beatriz Gonçalves" <bea3.goncalves@gmail.com>: Dec 31 05:12AM -0800

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