Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 2 topics

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Mar 28 06:34PM +0100


> Try the sci.electronics.design group.
 
I did that. :-->
 
I have tried every reset procedure I can find on the net, for example
30:30:30 but what I really need is a specific reset procedure that explains
how long each step takes as there are MANY reset procedures for the RB411.
 
There's the shorting point where you stick a screwdriver for an unspecified
number of seconds while powering up and then you wait for an unspecified
set of unspecified color LEDs to light up, and there is the spring-loaded
reset button which you press for an equally unspecified period of time
while already booted and then you wait for an unspecified set of
unspecified color LEDs to do whatever it is that they do.
 
There's also that beep I keep hearing which I don't know what it means.
 
I've been trying everything, for example I tried to connect to the MAC
address (which I had written down so I know what it is) of the LAN and WAN
on the routerboard RB411 last night using Winbox.exe version 3.37.
 
winbox.exe 192.168.88.1 admin ""
winbox.exe 84:1B:5E:AF:BF:CF admin ""
 
I also tried the webfig interface of the RouterBoard RB411 on port 80.
http://192.168.88.1/webfig/
 
I wasn't sure if it matter whether I used the 32-bit or 64-bit winbox
version 3.37 so I tried both of them but got the same negative results.
 
At this point I don't care which RouterOS I boot it to as the MikroTik
RB411 (like all MikroTik router boards) has a duplicate OS inside it.
(I think that's what the Phillips head shorting point is all about.)
 
And I don't care what settings it resets to just as long as I can log into
it from Windows on the same subnet (presumably the 192.168.88.xxx subnet).
netsh interface ipv4 show config
netsh interface ipv4 show config "MyEthernet"
netsh interface ipv4 set address name="MyEthernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
ping 192.168.88.1 -t
 
None of this works so I think the router is in some stuck state,
although it boots up (seemingly) with lights lighting up and
blinking at times (blue and green LEDs) and it beeps too.
 
I just need a definitive specific explicit reference for the MikroTik
routerboard RB411 with RouterOS on it for how to reset it to a state that I
can then connect to the RouterOS on it to set it up as a CPE Access Point.
 
I tried the MikroTik forum but it never sent the confirmation registration
mail so I don't think it's still supported as it seems to be dead a while.
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=438256
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=454673
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/ROS/Reset+Button
https://mikrotik.com/product/RB411
https://www.mikrotik-store.eu/en/MikroTik-RouterBOARD-RB411
https://forum.routerboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=156670
 
I'll put openwrt on it if I have to but I still need to connect first.
https://openwrt.org/toh/mikrotik/rb411
 
Most of the descriptions aren't specific enough to actually work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD708qX23eM
How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411
 
I will try anything because all I want to do is connect to it.
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Cheers, Rob
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Mar 28 06:09PM

>On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
 
>How to HARD RESET MikroTik RouterBOARD RB411
 
>I will try anything because all I want to do is connect to it.
 
Run a port scanner (e.g. nmap) on the entire 192.168.0.0/16 subnet.
Then try the 10.0.0.0/24 subnet if you don't get a hit on 192.168.0.0/16
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Mar 29 07:00AM

On 28 Mar 2023 at 18:34:59 BST, RJH wrote:
 
> On 28 Mar 2023 at 9:53:57 AM, Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
 
>> Try the sci.electronics.design group.
 
> I did that. :-->
 
How come you appear to be using my account to post?!
 
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Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Mar 29 08:27AM +0100


> Run a port scanner (e.g. nmap) on the entire 192.168.0.0/16 subnet.
> Then try the 10.0.0.0/24 subnet if you don't get a hit on 192.168.0.0/16
 
I don't know if the RB411 is on the 192.168.88.xxx or 192.168.1.xxx subnet.
Do I need to put the Windows PC on the same subnet as the RB411 might be?
 
Anyway, I googled for nmap and somehow I ended up with Zenmap on my desktop.
https://nmap.org/book/zenmap.html
 
The default zenmap scan is apparently this command.
Target: 192.168.1.1/24
Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.1.1/24
 
Target: 192.168.88.1/24
Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.88.1/24
 
The first nmap command it ran from the Zenmap GUI without the RB411 was
Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.0 [host down]
Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.2 [host down]
Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.3 [host down]
...
Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.100
Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.101
Discovered open port 443/tcp on 192.168.1.102
 
There were pages of results, so I'm weeding through them first while
I'm on my home LAN before I connect the PC directly to the RB411 router.
 
It's a pain not knowing what subnet to put the PC on so I pulled
the Ethernet out of the home router and plugged it into the RB411
instead. Then I changed the PC IP address to these two one by one.
Win+r cmd {control+shift+enter}
netsh interface ipv4 show config
netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"
netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.1 -t (which fails)
Then I ran the zenmap GUI with a Target: 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.255
Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.1.1/24
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.0
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.1
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.1.2
...
 
Then I tried the 88 subnet.
Win+r cmd {control+shift+enter}
netsh interface ipv4 show config
netsh interface ipv4 show config "Ethernet"
netsh interface ipv4 set address name="Ethernet" static 192.168.88.2 255.255.255.0 192.168.88.1
ping 192.168.88.1 -t (which fails)
Then I ran the zenmap GUI with a Target: 192.168.88.1 192.168.88.255
Command: nmap -T4 -A -v 192.168.88.1/24
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.0
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.1
get_srcaddr: can't connect socket: A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host.
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.3
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.4
setup_target: failed to determine route to 192.168.88.5
...
 
I'm not sure what I'm doing, but it seems I get different results
if I put the PC on 192.168.1.xxx versus 192.168.88.xxx and then
I run that zenmap port scan - but I don't yet know what to make
of the results since nothing came back as a really good hit.
 
My googling found also "ipscan" and "portscanner" which I may try.
https://angryip.org/download/#windows
https://www.eusing.com/ipscan/free_ip_scanner.htm
https://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/download/
 
The problem is that the search is filled with shills so I don't know
which is the right freeware respected ipscanner or port scanner download.
 
Given the syntax is not in the least intuitive (it takes experimentation),
does anyone have a recommendation as to which scanner to concentrate on?
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Cheers, Rob
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Mar 29 09:55AM +0100

RJH wrote:
 
> It's a pain not knowing what subnet to put the PC on
 
Use wireshark and listen for DHCP or gratuitous ARP from the device,
then you'll know its IP and can put your PC on the same subnet to
[ze]nmap scan it ...
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Mar 29 04:13AM -0700

> How come you appear to be using my account to post?!
 
It does appear that Jimmy Neutron is back, and now hijacking other handles.
 
Please do not feed the troll.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
jim Whitby <none@example.com>: Mar 29 03:12PM +0200

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:13:02 -0700, Peter W. wrote:
 
> handles.
 
> Please do not feed the troll.
 
> Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA
 
If he's serious, then the serial port is the best way.
As I haven't seen any response to my post ( a.inter..wirel.. ).
I'm inclined to agree about the troll
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Mar 29 07:41AM -0700

> I'm inclined to agree about the troll.
 
Jimmy Neutron is never serious - other than to attempt to generate a 100-post wild goose chase on its terms.
GumpyGus <7dcd78c65df7d49b39408329802acc44@example.com>: Mar 28 05:45PM

It is likely to be a run-down battery. The calibration constants are held in a CMOS RAM which needs battery voltage to hold the calibration constants.
 
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For full context, visit https://www.electrondepot.com/repair/tektronix-2467b-similar-to-2465b-error-message-test-04-fa-85746-.htm
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Mar 28 10:49AM -0700

On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-4, GumpyGus wrote:
> It is likely to be a run-down battery. The calibration constants are held in a CMOS RAM which needs battery voltage to hold the calibration constants.
 
> --
> For full context, visit https://www.electrondepot.com/repair/tektronix-2467b-similar-to-2465b-error-message-test-04-fa-85746-.htm
 
Useful, but this goes back to 2007.
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