Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 4 topics

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 25 06:04AM -0400

When a cellphone is a hotspot and it streams web-radio to a real radio
(in this case the car radio) is there any feedback from the radio to the
cellphone or the app that is running? Would the app know if I had
turned the radio off, or changed input so it was no longer detecting and
playing the cellphone signal?
 
It seems very unlikely to me, but I can't keep up with new advances in
tech. And it would account for what seems to be happening.
 
Specifically, I listen to CNN or MSNBC on the Tunein app and it streams,
is that the right word, through the car radio. The free version of
Tunein is free but you pay by having to listen to mannnny commercials.
 
One in particular annoys me. It's a commercial for Aramco. A feel-good
ad using a woman's mellifluous voice, talking in cliches about the
future, etc. They don't mention its full name, Saudi Aramco, or that
its majority owner is Saudi Arabia. SA seems to have decided it wants
to improve its image, after the murder of Adnan Khashoggi and
allegations of war crimes in Yemen, and they seem to be starting with
Aramco.
 
Tunein has a practice of running the same commercial over and over and
over, several times an hour all day long. If one listens to broadcast
tv or radio, different programs have their own set of commericals, so
they change as the day goes on, and it's not annoying, but Tunein plays
the same ones all the time. And in many cases it plays the same one
several times an hour. The Aramco commercial runs 5 or 6 times an hour.
And it's part of a series of ads that take 3 or 4 minutes, maybe longer.
 
So in the car, I used to change to FM while waiting for the ads to end,
and then I'd forget and listen to FM for 10 or 20 minutes, and when I
went back to Tunein, it is almost always in the middle of another Aramco
commercial. Yesterday this happened 4 times in a row, one break and
then another 4 times.
 
So now I'm starting to wonder if it could be the same commercial, that
was on pause while I was listening to FM??? Or while the radio was off
altogether?? Is that possible? That the app knew the signal was not
beling played through the radio? Finally I've taken to turning down the
volume so I don't hear it. The app certainly doesn't know ablut that,
and it seems to work, or must it be my imagination?
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com>: Jul 25 01:30PM

> streams, is that the right word, through the car radio. The free
> version of Tunein is free but you pay by having to listen to mannnny
> commercials.
 
The overload of commercials, coupled with the fact that every FM radio
station wants to try to recreate a Howard Stern Jr by having their
variant talk all morning (when they are not otherwise running
commercials) during the commute hours is why I now *only* play
pre-recorded, commercial free sound files from my phone over my car
radio. No commercials, ever, and no talking DJ's either.
 
> when I went back to Tunein, it is almost always in the middle of
> another Aramco commercial. Yesterday this happened 4 times in a row,
> one break and then another 4 times.
 
This is not at all surprising. They cut to commercial breaks so
frequently that your probability of randomly switching back, and being
in the middle of a commercial break becomes quite high. You'll see the
same effect when channel jumping around on TV -- you more often than
not jump into a commercial break on channel X when switching away from
channel Y.
 
> So now I'm starting to wonder if it could be the same commercial,
> that was on pause while I was listening to FM???
 
Unlikely. It is much more probable that you were just unlucky and
picked the right delay time to return such that you were in the middle
of a commercial. If you were to time the content vs. commercials one
day you'd likely find you get a 2-3 minute commercial break every 4-5
minutes. It is not hard to end up returing during each of those 2-3
minute slots, given how often they likely occur.
Jon Foster <foster.jon.m@gmail.com>: Jul 24 11:55PM -0700

Picked up a portable hard drive. Header ripped off flopping around. Can this be reattached, easily, by someone skilled in this sort of thing or is it a "big deal"? Otherwise, my portable harddrive aint so portable anymore.
TIA GT
abrsvc <dansabrservices@yahoo.com>: Jul 25 05:38AM -0700

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 2:55:24 AM UTC-4, Jon Foster wrote:
> Picked up a portable hard drive. Header ripped off flopping around. Can this be reattached, easily, by someone skilled in this sort of thing or is it a "big deal"? Otherwise, my portable harddrive aint so portable anymore.
> TIA GT
Yes it is possible to repair this. The caution is that if the traces were also damaged, it may be tricky to reattach them. It is possible, but may take some time. I have done these in the past successfully.
Dan
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Jul 24 05:11PM -0700

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:50:44 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
 
> If none of the leads is connected to the case, it could be something
> less common, such as a dual-gate FET. I used to use a lot of 3N201s in
> that package.
 
I used to replace a lot of 40763 dual gate Field Effect transistors in garage door openers. I was doing the for a friend with a garage door business as a sideline. A nice part, but they didn't like nearby lightning strikes.
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Jul 24 06:24PM -0700

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:04:23 PM UTC-7, Dave McGuire wrote:
> TO-72 package (TO-18 with four leads), in an old Victoreen radiation
> survey meter. The number is "ITS 30487". It's also marked "7736" which
> I assume is a date code.
 
Hard to be sure, but Siliconix was making PFET junction FET discretes with that
package, like this one
 
[archiveorg bitsavers_siliconixdixLowPowerDiscretesDataBook_42980376 width=560 height=384 frameborder=0 webkitallowfullscreen=true mozallowfullscreen=true]
 
see page 120, 2N4867 series
 
If that's your item, pin 4 is the case (just a shield, not diode-connected to anything).
There might be a S embossed on the can...
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Jul 24 05:13PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:59:06 PM UTC-4, Nick Agostini wrote:
> Just on my own network.
 
> I have a normal Wi-Fi router.
 
> Any suggestions?
 
Some people use old cell phones and an app to view the video.
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