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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>: Sep 30 05:36PM -0400

Per Horace Algier:
 
>If it does, Nova free is fantastic and does a *lot* of things the stock
>launchers don't do (e.g., mine came with the TouchWiz launcher which sucks
>by way of comparison).
 
+1... wouldn't have anything else.
 
Another advantage, if you have to use multiple devices, is uniformity:
put Nova on all devices and they all look/act the same.
--
Pete Cresswell
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Oct 01 03:58PM +1000

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message
news:nsm045$9vf$1@news.mixmin.net...
 
> Pssst.... it won't help me because *feeling* safe and *being* safe are two
> totally different things ... but they might be able to locate the body for
> a decent burial.
 
It would help plenty who live alone who have a bad fall and
can't get up. There are a few of those on the reality TV series
and some found dead who didn't manage to get any help too.
 
And it happened to a mate of mine too who was so obscenely
obese that he managed to fall down behind the bed and it took
a crew of at least 6 emergency personnel to get him up again.
In his case his wife could call them, but if he had been living
alone, it would have avoided him ending up dead.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Oct 01 04:08PM +1000

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message
news:nsm046$9vf$2@news.mixmin.net...
 
>> ...but
 
>> it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2.
 
> Since iOS people buy the things primarily to *feel* safe,
 
Just another bare faced lie/pathetic excuse for a troll...
 
> it's not surprising that some people tout this rather minor and
> privacy invasive e lock-screen ICE note as a "safety" feature.
 
Corse it's a safety feature when you are no longer capable
of telling the paramedics or hospital who you are etc.
 
> I don't have an iPhone (I have iPads), so, if the Medical ID
> is *designed* to *require* a log in to an Internet site,
 
It doesn't. Its just a lock that prevents anyone who comes across
the phone from using it, no logon to any internet site involved.
 
> it's doubly bad (from a privacy standpoint).
 
Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
 
> *not* to use this Medical ID "feature", as outlined in this article:
> https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/iphone-medical-id/
> How, Why, and Why Not to Use the iPhone Medical ID
 
For other reasons, just privacy, because some fools
are mindlessly paranoid about their 'privacy' and
take stupid unnecessary risks to 'protect' it.
 
> didn't find anything related to the Medical ID in 10.0.2 specifically,
> so I'm not sure what you're alluding to when you say it no longer
> works that way in 10.0.2 other than what the article says above.
 
I haven't checked it myself. I do run 10.0.2 but haven't
setup the medical id because I don't have any medical
conditions for which it would be useful and because if
I am ever found unconscious or completely out of it
so badly that I can't identify myself, it will be completely
trivial to work out who I am.
 
> In short though, Medical ID is exactly what I'd expect from Apple
> users who merely want to *feel* safe, without actually *being* safe.
 
Even sillier than you usually manage/even more of
a pathetic excuse for a troll than you usually manage.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Oct 01 04:10PM +1000

John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere> wrote
> your phone then anything in this EMERGENCY folder will be pretty much
> useless unless someone manages to break into your phone if they lay hands
> on it.
 
He's actually talking about what he uses himself in emergency situations.
 
> All I do on my Android devices is to enter a 'lock screen message' which
> shows my name, mailing address (P.O. Box, not actual street address) and
> several emergency contact numbers.
 
That's not the sort of emergency he is talking about.
John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere>: Oct 01 10:39AM -0400

On 10/1/2016 2:10 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> shows my name, mailing address (P.O. Box, not actual street address) and
>> several emergency contact numbers.
 
> That's not the sort of emergency he is talking about.
 
Why a folder? There are multiple 'home' screens available and these
theoretically useful apps can just be placed on, lets say, the last one. As
one thinks of new possibilities they can be placed there and if they later
seem to be of less use they can be removed. I can't actually think of too
many apps that would be useful only in an emergency and only in an
emergency since they come in an infinite number of forms. Personally I keep
a 'daily' screen, a 'news and information' screen, a 'travel' screen, and
an 'entertainment' screen. Guess I could move some stuff around and have
'emergency' one at the end. Just me, I guess...
Tim Schwartz <tim@bristolnj.com>: Oct 01 07:32AM -0400

Have a look at Evil-Bay. There are many "MS Notebook Mouse 3000"
listed, though most seem to be wireless. With some patience, the one
you want will likely show up in a few months.
 
Regards,
Tim
 
 
On 9/29/2016 7:01 PM, aioli wrote:
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Oct 01 12:36PM +0100

On 30/09/2016 00:01, aioli wrote:
> Does not hold the charge long enough but it is fun to use when I want to
> fool with folks. I can make it say anything. Like "Get your hands off
> of me." or "Micky and I are friends" or naughties.
 
So you may as well get inside and maybe the optical encoderdisc is
partly out of a bearing, pot is worn, something loose, fluff etc
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John McGaw <Nobody@Nowh.ere>: Sep 30 11:49AM -0400

On 9/27/2016 6:35 PM, Horace Algier wrote:
> Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you
> put inside)?
snip...
 
Simple answer is: if you've been sensible and put a strong passcode on your
phone then anything in this EMERGENCY folder will be pretty much useless
unless someone manages to break into your phone if they lay hands on it.
All I do on my Android devices is to enter a 'lock screen message' which
shows my name, mailing address (P.O. Box, not actual street address) and
several emergency contact numbers.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Sep 30 08:56AM -0700

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 03:01:46 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier
<horatio@horatio.net> wrote:
 
(...)
 
I like to carry *SEARCHABLE* documents instead of apps. For example:
 
You might want to add in NIFOG (National Interoperability Field
Operations Guide) from our friends at the DHS.
<https://www.dhs.gov/publication/nifog-documents>
There quite a bit of useful info in
--
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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ohger1s@gmail.com: Sep 30 08:36AM -0700

> > 'get headphone jack'...
> > https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1845589/clueless-iphone-7-owners-tricked-into-drilling-hole-in-their-phones-to-get-a-headphone-jack/
 
> Don't drill it deeper. You need to drill a BIGGER hole John. Lenny
 
Thanks Lenny. Round or oblong?
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Sep 29 04:19PM -0400

In article <bea7382a-0a26-4863-85b1-ef3a8fb3aa9e@googlegroups.com>,
jurb6006@gmail.com says...
> rubber stamps. Or simple printer's ink like for the newspaper or
> something. Not inkjet ink, you'll have to mortgage the house to get
> enough of that.
 
The ink for the old printers was very inexpensive. I used to buy some
from the NCR that was about $ 3 for a tube that looked like a toothpaste
tube. Only took a small ammount for the old teletype ribbons and later
for my Okidata 82 that used the same type of ribbon. Unless you know
someone that has some old stock I doubt you will find it.
NCR K-575F ink. That is for the black. They made some purple or some
such color that had a similar number.
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Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 29 05:51PM

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:48:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
>>> Surprisingly few have commented yet.
 
>> No, not surprising at all.
 
> Have fun explaining why they have done with his other stuff.
 
The number of posts in a thread is absolutely meaningless.
 
In most threads, most of the comments are unhelpful noise anyway, so, one
or two good technical accurate responses is about all *any* thread could
hope for in the best of curcumstances.
 
To that end, I *try* (but sometimes fail) to make "my" posts packed with as
much value as I can pack into them, so that all benefit from the
conversation.
 
I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are
reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances.
 
Based on taking up all suggestions in this thread, what we have together
developed, so far, is this emergency folder capability:
http://i.cubeupload.com/MPNlDb.gif
 
a. Local 911 (if applicable in your area)
b. CHP 911
c. Evacuation Route Traffic
d. Police/Fire Scanner (if legal in your area)
e. ?
 
In addition, I'm working on a button to send out an alert SMS to the family
that also sends the GPS coordinates.
 
1. For example, this emergencySMS app "says" it will send out a
pre-recorded text to three people at the touch of a button:
- Emergency SMS By DASTIS Communication
= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emergency.sms
 
2. This Emergency reverse-SMS app "says" it will alert you by sound (even
if the phone is on silent or vibrate) if you receive a text from someone
using a pre-defined code word:
- TeXTe - Emergency SMS by Curly Y.
= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ravid.dev.esms
 
3. This emergency 911-related SMS app "says" it will alert your family any
time you call 911:
- 911HelpSMS ( 911 Help SMS ) By Safety Now Solutions
= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cabmatch.help911
 
4. This Emergency SMS app "says" it will alert people with a pre-recorded
message and your GPS location when you press the sleep button a few times
- Emergency Alert By xAnkle
= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xankle.mobile.sos
 
5. This alert app "says" it will alert by phone or email with your GPS
location on a map snapshot along with a pre-recorded message:
- Emergency Button By Andluck
= https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.emergency.button
etc.
 
As always, there is so much good freeware out there that the "price" is the
testing to find the best ones - which is why I *asked* what *you* put in
*your* emergency folder (assuming you've tested emergency apps).
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 29 01:56PM -0400

In article <nsjkbi$8t4$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algier
 
> I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are
> reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances.
 
no you don't.
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 29 06:38PM

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:56:06 -0400, nospam wrote:
 
>> I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are
>> reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances.
 
> no you don't.
 
 
The difference between you and me is that I try to be helpful (which takes
effort on my part).
 
I wouldn't normally even respond to your supremely unhelpful post above,
but I do have one thing to say regarding the emergency contact setup that I
just tried, after testing out *all* the suggestions people made:
http://i.cubeupload.com/MPNlDb.gif
 
The fact that we can change the *name* of *any* app whatsoever could be
helpful, in an emergency context, since we can remove the "brand" name of
the app, and just list what function it has for emergency purposes.
 
Just by way of example, you'll notice in the latter screenshot above that I
changed the pre-installed "Messages" app to read "sns/mms" (sic), [which I
have just now updated to "sms/mms", after noticing the typo in that
screenshot).
 
The point is that we can change *any* app name we want, which is useful in
an emergency folder, becuase the brand name isn't going to be instantly
recognized, since we use it so little - but the FUNCTIONALITY (as always)
is paramount ...
 
*So we can name the Emergency app by its FUNCTIONALITY!*
 
By way of example, I just changed the pre-installed YouTube app name to
"old youtube" because it's an older version that doesn't do advertisements,
and I changed VLC to "vlc player" just to test if I was able to change the
name of both pre-installed and post-installed apps.
 
Turns out it's really easy to remove those silly brand names to change the
name of the app to something that makes sense to you. Just long press on
the app icon, and you can change the name to anything you want.
 
This ability to name any existing app what *you* want to name it is very
useful for an emergency folder, where brand names are meaningless, and
where the *functionality* of the app is paramount.
 
You can even named the emergency apps "1" "2" "3", etc., so that you can
just press them quickly in an emergency.
 
Whatever you name them is totally up to you, but this capability to edit
the app name no matter what the app is, will give the emergency folder a
*consistency* which can save time in an emergency since you can name them
"do this first" or "call police and fire" or whatever you want to name the
apps, even if they're apps from the app store.
 
See this screenshot for the summary of how to change the name of any app on
an unrooted Android device (I'm on Android 4.3, Nova free launcher).
http://i.cubeupload.com/rkBFU9.jpg
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 29 06:43PM

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:00:48 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
> unconscious or incapable and that is visible on the lock screen of your
> idevice so anyone can get those details from there as long as your
> phone is still working.
 
I generally tackle all problems on both iOS and Android, particularly for
emergencies, because you'll never know what you will have in your hands at
the time of an emergency.
 
On iOS 9.x, when I open contacts and search for "ice" or for "emergency", I
get nothing (not surprisingly, because I never set up anything).
 
Looking about in iOS contacts, I don't see any overt mention of an
"emergency" system.
 
Googling, I find this article:
3 Features You Should Enable in iOS 8
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468891,00.asp
 
In that article, they talk about a "Health" app that Apple supplied in iOS
8, which doesn't seem to be on my device in iOS9 (I skipped iOS 8
altogether since I update the device as little as possible since all hell
broke loose outside the walled garden the penultimate time I updated).
 
Hmmmm... no "Health" app on this iPad. I only have one desktop screen, and
there's no health app on it, nor in Settings General on the left column.
 
So, scratch that method (maybe it works only on phones?).
 
Moving on to another reference, I find this:
https://snapguide.com/guides/add-ice-in-case-of-emergency-contacts-for-iphone/
How to Add ICE (In Case of Emergency) Contacts for iPhone
 
1. Contacts > + > First = ICE 1 - Wife
2. Copy that to "Last" name also (if contacts are reverse sorted).
3. Company = Patty Winter, wife
4. Scroll down to "add field"
5. The article says scroll to the bottom of the popup to add "notes"
but I don't see any notes. I just see:
- Prefix
- Phonetic first name
- Pronunciation first name
- Middle name
- Phonetic middle name
- Phonetic last name
- Pronunciation last name
- Maiden name
- Suffix
- Nickname
- Job title
- Department
6. So I put the phone number in the Company field instead (since there were
no notes fields).
7. Press "Done".
 
Hmmm... I guess adding ICE is better than doing absolutely nothing, but
it's not much better than doing absolutely nothing.
 
Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you
mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS?
 
Thanks!
NOTE: iPad, with SIM data, iOS 9.3.2 (and staying on that until/unless
there is a compelling reason to risk another release)
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 29 02:46PM -0400

In article <nsjnd9$fag$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algier
 
> I generally tackle all problems on both iOS and Android, particularly for
> emergencies, because you'll never know what you will have in your hands at
> the time of an emergency.
 
blood.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 29 02:47PM -0400

In article <nsjn2v$eki$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algier
 
> > no you don't.
 
> The difference between you and me is that I try to be helpful (which takes
> effort on my part).
 
if that's the case, then you failed at that too.
 
and i wasn't trying to be helpful. i was simply stating the facts,
something which you hate.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 30 09:23AM +1000

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message
news:nsjnd9$fag$1@news.mixmin.net...
> it's not much better than doing absolutely nothing.
 
> Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you
> mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS?
 
That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen
of your phone.
 
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 02:51AM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
>> mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS?
 
> That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen
> of your phone.
 
OK. Now I get it.
 
It's sort of like this app:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ice-standard-er-smart911-official/id412786820?mt=8
 
If you're dead (or dying), and your iDevice (maybe just the phone and not
the iPad?) is still locked, the "bit of the health app" that you're talking
about, "tells" your good samartan whatever you wanted to tell them in the
ICE contacts.
 
Um, er ... ok. That's fine, I guess. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
 
But I'm looking for far-more proactive solutions for the emergency folder,
like, um, things that *prevent* you from being dead in the first place.
 
To that end, previously I found a ton of Android emergency apps (most of
which seemed to be SMS-related, and GPS location alert related). The
problem on Android is that there are so many, all the work is in selecting
and testing the few that you want to keep.
 
Googling for iOS emergency apps, the first hit is both Android/iOS:
7 essential personal safety apps for emergency situations
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/11/17/7-essential-personal-safety-apps-for-emergency-situations/#gref
 
Which lists these:
- Guardly (connects you with your security organization)
- LINE Messenger (disaster stuff)
- Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff)
- Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA)
- Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button)
- ICE app (same as iOS unlock screen stuff)
 
I only quickly skimmed that article, but they all seem scamm'ish to me, so
I'll move on to other apps (unless someone says otherwise).
 
This article lists five free apps "that can call for help":
5 Free Personal Safety Apps that Can Call For Help
http://www.techlicious.com/tip/free-personal-safety-apps/
 
1. bSafe (broadcasts video and beeps and calls people when you are scared)
2. Kitestring (keeps asking you if you're ok, and if not, it alerts others)
3. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!)
4. Bugle (leave the phone at home & it calls the cops if you don't return)
5. Samsung Safety Assistance (notify a list of contacts)
 
As usual, if you read two articles that are supposedly on the same topic,
and *none* of the apps cross pollinate, that's a sign that the scammish
nature of the apps is predominant. (It's not proof - just a sign.)
 
Moving on to this (and noting the source), at least some apps finally cross
pollinate, which is a better sign that you're getting slightly closer to
the good stuff:
11 apps that can save your life in case of an emergency
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/10-apps-save-life-case-emergency-article-1.2438105
 
1. Medical ID (same as the ICE stuff above)
2. ICE Standard (same as ICE stuff above)
3. Bugle (calls the cops if you don't get back to your phone in time)
4. Kitestring (nags you and then alerts others if you don't respond)
5. Family Locator/Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA)
6. Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button)
7. Siren GPS (calls 911 and sends them your GPS location)
8. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!)
9. Guardly (calls your company security team)
10. Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff)
11. Natural Disaster Monitor (less personal scare mongering disaster stuff)
 
There were plenty of other articles on the subject but this post is too
long already:
 
DISCLAIMER: I only *skimmed* the articles for the gist of what the apps do,
since the true measure of an app is how horrendous it is in setup and use,
not what the marketing guys "say" it will do.
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 02:51AM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
>> mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS?
 
> That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen
> of your phone.
 
Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's
not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for
example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.)
 
That health app, which, I guess does its job *after* you're dead and your
screen is still locked, doesn't seem to exist on "my" iPad, at least not if
it's named "health.anything".
 
My iPad was, on purpose, kept on 7.x for as long as possible (since Apple
screws up things outside the walled garden) so when I was forced to move
(due to kids complaining games no longer would work on 7.x) it was to
9.something, thankfully skipping 8.whatever altogether.
 
Since the health app came with iOS 8, maybe that's why I don't have it?
Or do none of the iPads have that Health app by default?
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 03:01AM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you
> put inside)?
 
Based on the response, people don't seem to create much of an emergency
folder nor do they do much about emergency apps.
 
Googling for apps, most found seem to be cross platform (as they should
be), so, it's not an iOS or Android-specific problem - but relates to all
mobile devices.
 
The plethora of supposed emergency apps is apparent from just the first few
Google hits, as everyone seems to want to get in on the bandwagon, so it
would take a *lot* of effort to come up with the best apps on my own.
 
Since others aren't adding much value, we'll probably get nowhere further
on this task, but to help out a bit, I'll review the next hit after briefly
skimming it for useful details...
 
iPhone/iPad Apps for emergencies
http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-emergencies
 
Here's just my first impression of the free ones, in order:
1. wikiHow: How to and DIY Survival Kit (jesus ... are they serious?)
2. RepairPal: Auto Repair Expert (omg ... they are serious?)
3. iWrecked - Auto accident assistant (jesus christ ... they're serious?)
4. Winter Survival Kit (omg ... more of the same)
5. iTriage (jesus ... more crap)
6. SPOT Connect (a satellite service - but how does it work?)
 
Other than the potential for "SPOT Connect" to be a potentially useful app,
the rest, based only on my initial inspection, defy any real definition
other than "jesus christ ... are they serious?".
 
Let's hope the next hit is better:
50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device!
http://prepared-housewives.com/emergency-apps-that-might-just-save-your-life/
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 03:18AM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 03:01:46 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> Let's hope the next hit is better:
> 50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device!
> http://prepared-housewives.com/emergency-apps-that-might-just-save-your-life/
 
Looking at the list of 50 emergency apps that "turn your phone into a
life-saving device"...
 
50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device!
http://prepared-housewives.com/emergency-apps-that-might-just-save-your-life/
 
Skimming the list, and eliminating all the "Diy emergency" apps out of
hand, at the beginning, there's the normal ICE stuff after the crap-DIY
stuff (both of which I find to be basically useless), and then there are
"organizational stuff" apps.
 
For example...
Who know the Red Cross has emergency apps such as this:
 
Wildfire - American Red Cross By American Red Cross
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cube.arc.wfa
 
Interestingly, along with all the "disaster alert" apps, they do have the
scanner app we've been touting as KISS and unobtrusively free, namely
5-0 Scanner for iOS and Scanner for Android.
 
The article touts an app called "Map Droyd" which claims it works without
cell service (duh, all offline maps work that way), so I don't know what
the big deal is, but I hadn't heard of "map droyd" before so I'll check it
out separately.
 
There's also "Google Sky Map" (which I didn't know existed either), which
maps the stars. Having grown up hiking and camping all the time, I can
navigate by the stars on my own in the northern hemisphere, but it's
probably useful for others who don't know how to tell direction from a
quick glance through clouds at the sky.
 
The isocline map they tout is "Back Country Navigator", and the OSM map
they list is "GPS Grid Reference". They tout MotionX GPS Drive for offline
use navigating on roads, and again we see the potentially useful "Spot
Connect" which purports to use satellite messaging (which I'm not sure how
exactly that works from a non-satellite phone when you have no signal
whatsoever).
 
After the map selection, there is a ton of cpr-related medical garbage, and
then we see "red panic button" again, which seems simple enough to be
somewhat useful if set up correctly.
 
After that, there were the inevitable scare mongering social networking
apps such as life360 and social alert...
 
And the article ends with a handful of completely unrelated apps that they
claim are useful, but in that list are "calculator" and "camera", so, it's
a waste of time to get that far into the article before it ends.
 
Overall, only two apps strike me as potentially worth a second look, which
are the satellite connection app (how the heck *can* it work?) and the
panic button app - which seems simple enough if it doesn't require logins
and idiotic marketing stuff to work).
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 30 02:45PM +1000

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> and not the iPad?) is still locked, the "bit of the health app" that
> you're talking about, "tells" your good samartan whatever you
> wanted to tell them in the ICE contacts.
 
Yep.
 
> Um, er ... ok. That's fine, I guess. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
 
But no need to put it in any emergency folder or anything similar,
because once its setup, it happens completely automatically. That's
why I meant to delete that bit that I first thought that you were talking
about when I realised that you meant something else, and forgot to
edit that out from my original response before I hit the send button.
 
> But I'm looking for far-more proactive solutions for the emergency folder,
> like, um, things that *prevent* you from being dead in the first place.
 
Sure.
 
> (most of which seemed to be SMS-related, and GPS location alert
> related). The problem on Android is that there are so many, all the
> work is in selecting and testing the few that you want to keep.
 
Yeah, pretty similar on iOS and since much of what I want in that regard
isnt unique to emergency situations but are used all the time like google
maps and other stuff like that, no need to put them in an emergency
folder or anything like that, although I spose that might make some
sense when setting those up for someone else on their phone etc
particularly if they are the sort of person who might well end up
rather flustered in an emergency situation etc.
 
But IMO it makes more sense to have emergency phone numbers
in a group in the standard contacts because that is where it makes
rather more sense to have emergency phone numbers IMO. Or best
to have the numbers in both so wherever anyone looks, they will be
found immediately which would be useful in an emergency.
 
> button!)
> 4. Bugle (leave the phone at home & it calls the cops if you don't return)
> 5. Samsung Safety Assistance (notify a list of contacts)
 
I think there is something to be said for an app that either works out when
you have got up and if you haven't, eventually asks if you are alright and
if you don't respond, calls the numbers you specify. That would be useful
for those who live alone and would hopefully catch most of the situations
where you say fall and can't get up and don't have your phone with you
at the time and so can't call for assistance yourself etc.
 
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 30 02:50PM +1000

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message
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> 9.something, thankfully skipping 8.whatever altogether.
 
> Since the health app came with iOS 8, maybe that's why I don't have it?
> Or do none of the iPads have that Health app by default?
 
That's correct, its only on the iphones and ipod touchs.
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 29 11:58PM -0700


> Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's
> not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for
> example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.)
 
 
<http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12>
 
 
--
 
 
Regards,
 
Savageduck
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 30 12:06AM -0700

>> not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for
>> example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.)
 
> <http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12>
 
...but
 
it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2.
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>: Sep 30 04:21AM -0400

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:38:24 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> Just long press on
> the app icon, and you can change the name to anything you want.
 
Not here (Android 2.3.5): I long press on an app icon (in the display of
all apps) and an options dialogue comes up: [ Add to Home | Add to group ].
 
Or, I long press on an app icon on a home screen and when the icon vibrates
I can drag it elsewhere, wherever I want.
 
But rename it? Sorry, not here. Cheers, -- tlvp
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Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 03:00PM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:21:54 -0400, tlvp wrote:
 
 
> Or, I long press on an app icon on a home screen and when the icon vibrates
> I can drag it elsewhere, wherever I want.
 
> But rename it? Sorry, not here
 
You need a launcher that supports naming.
I realize you are on Andriod 2.x while I'm on 4.x, but one question for
you:
 
Does your Android support the Nova free launcher?
 
If it does, Nova free is fantastic and does a *lot* of things the stock
launchers don't do (e.g., mine came with the TouchWiz launcher which sucks
by way of comparison).
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 03:24PM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:45:35 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
> for those who live alone and would hopefully catch most of the situations
> where you say fall and can't get up and don¢t have your phone with you
> at the time and so can't call for assistance yourself etc.
 
I was thinking about that old American commercial, a few decades ago, where
an old lady falls down the stairs and says "I've fallen and I can't get
up".
 
It was perfectly tuned MARKETING fear mongering, and FUD worked as well
then as it does now.
 
Still, for those who *need* it, I can't possibly disagree with you, that it
will make them *feel* safe to have the app constantly nag them to ask if
they're OK.
 
I could even use it, I guess, when I go pot farmer hunting ... :)
 
Pssst.... it won't help me because *feeling* safe and *being* safe are two
totally different things ... but they might be able to locate the body for
a decent burial.
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 30 03:24PM

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 00:06:10 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12>
 
> ...but
 
> it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2.
 
Since iOS people buy the things primarily to *feel* safe, it's not
surprising that some people tout this rather minor and privacy invasive e
lock-screen ICE note as a "safety" feature.
 
I don't have an iPhone (I have iPads), so, if the Medical ID is *designed*
to *require* a log in to an Internet site, it's doubly bad (from a privacy
standpoint).
 
Even in iOS8 on an iPhone, others have made persuasive arguments *not* to
use this Medical ID "feature", as outlined in this article:
https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/iphone-medical-id/
How, Why, and Why Not to Use the iPhone Medical ID
 
Since you said something changed in iOS 10 with respect to this ICE
feature, I found this:
How to Access Medical ID from Lock Screen in iOS 10 on iPhone/iPad
https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-access-medical-id-from-lockscreen-in-ios-10/
 
It doesn't say anything about iOS 10.0.2, per se, and a quick search didn't
find anything related to the Medical ID in 10.0.2 specifically, so I'm not
sure what you're alluding to when you say it no longer works that way in
10.0.2 other than what the article says above.
 
In short though, Medical ID is exactly what I'd expect from Apple users who
merely want to *feel* safe, without actually *being* safe.
aioli <aioli@aioli.com>: Sep 29 04:01PM -0700

I want to replace my MS Notebook Mouse 3000 but it seems that no one
makes this style. Nothing similar. Not even close.
 
Corded USB
Travel size (small)
Scroll / click / tilt wheel
Button on the side - MANDATORY !
Red LED tracking.
 
i.e. NO batteries !
 
Problem, the scroll seems to run away sometimes for no reason.
A large page will start rapidly scrolling.
I stop it by fiddling with the mouse.
It does not happen again for a time.
 
Is this a cleaning problem for the internal pot or what or worn out ?
 
 
Have the battery manufactures mandated that only meeces with batteries
are now allowed ?
 
There are not even many rechargeable mice out there.
I have one. It is a talking bluetooth mouse.
Does not hold the charge long enough but it is fun to use when I want to
fool with folks. I can make it say anything. Like "Get your hands off
of me." or "Micky and I are friends" or naughties.
Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net>: Sep 30 04:41PM +0200

On 09/30/2016 01:01 AM, aioli wrote:
> but it is fun to use when I want to fool with folks. I can make it
> say anything. Like "Get your hands off of me." or "Micky and I are
> friends" or naughties.
 
double triggering buttons can be remedied by soldering in new microswitches.
spurious keypresses like you described can have several causes: Bad power supply,
broken cable, wireless interference(bursts, far apart), broken usb interface, dirt,
failed controller.
 
The interference you can try to counter with a ferrite on the cable.
 
If you think it's the usb on the mainboard, use a different USB socket
(there was that acer laptop which had some USB ports on a separate board,
and if you put your hand near the hinge the plug(internal) would come loose
intermittently).
 
maybe change the cable.
 
perhaps clean the mouse(the circuit board).
 
If that won't help, you can only trash it...
Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu>: Sep 29 05:15PM -0500


> Well he wanted to mount it to something, some sort o rack or whatever and
> drilled holes in the bottom of it. Drilled right through a four layer PC
> board.
Yup, I sold a guy a system to control some servo motors in a CNC
application. It had 4 servo amplifiers with big power FETs on a mounting
plate, with Bergquist insulating thermal pads. He had a guy assemble it all
into a box, and this guy drilled big holes and put giant screws into the
mounting plate that shorted out the transistors. This was running off a 120
V DC supply. Lots of fireworks!
 
Jon
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Sep 29 01:17PM -0400

Bennett Price <NOTbjprice@cal.berkeley.edu>: Sep 29 10:46AM -0700

On 9/29/2016 10:17 AM, Michael Black wrote:
> lined up properly. They weren't on a roll, the ribbon was just filling
> the space in the plastic cartridge.
 
> Michael
 
http://www.staples.com/Epson-8755-Nylon-Ribbon-Black/product_243527
 
https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Fabric-Ribbon-FX100-MX100/dp/B00004Z5H7?th=1
 
http://www.lenscomputers.com/epson-8755.html
jurb6006@gmail.com: Sep 29 12:22PM -0700

You old ancient dinosaur. Plus too cheap to buy a simple hundred buck monochrome LASER printer. You probably still got the first dollar you even made. But we loves ya anyway.
 
But really, I have heard of people trying to re-ink those ribbons, and for typewriters as well. Some I think had some success.
 
If it uses a plastic ribbon which IIRC the IBM Selectric did, no dice, but a cloth ribbon should be doable.
 
What keeps the ink dry is that it is all packed on the roll and not really exposed to the air much. Remember typewriters that would not type right away but after you type a while which advances the ribbon or you just grab it and advance it by hand it works fine ? So if you do this it has to go on that spool fairly tight.
 
Damn, you make me feel old. Back in the annals of my memory seems to be someone who needed a ribbon and took just half of the ribbon from another typewriter so they would both work.
 
Kids today, you show them a dial phone and they have no clue, can you imagine showing them that typewriter shit ?
 
But seriously, if you are the type who does not print every day, do not but an inkjet printer. If they sit too long the heads block up. I used to have an HP 1100+ that I really liked, just black and white but when I hit print it printed right now and that could be after sitting a month, and it was quiet.
 
Then I bought an HP CM1312MFP and I am sorry. These pricks don't even give you a full load of toner and a full set of toner cartridges is $280. The whole thing was $500 new.
 
One question though, does it use that tractor feed paper with the holes in the sides ? If so, can you actually still get that ? Or do you have a basementfull (new word alert) of it somewhere ?
 
Anyway, if you decide to re-ink, I am pretty sure that ink is not the same as ink for an inkjet printer. (which is more expensive than gold) What you probably want it the type used to re-ink ink pads like for rubber stamps. Or simple printer's ink like for the newspaper or something. Not inkjet ink, you'll have to mortgage the house to get enough of that.
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