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* OT -- switching heating elements - 10 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2359de19aee3537a?hl=en
* Top Posting Fuckwit On Loose - 13 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3f84b39bfef04db0?hl=en
* small battery - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Minolta DI551 printer - not dark enough on print - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ca4d366f6119149f?hl=en

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TOPIC: OT -- switching heating elements
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2359de19aee3537a?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 8:11 am
From: Jeffrey Angus


On 6/27/2011 8:03 AM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
> I had a conservative, slightly paranoid friend (hi, Greg -- miss ya bad) who
> claimed materials science was sufficiently advanced that auto manufacturers
> were able to control how long a car engine lasted. I pooh-poohed this, but
> he was probably correct. Few products are made to last "as long as
> possible", because it tends to increase the price.

It's NOT some evil conspiracy.

The CONSUMER has been screaming for the past 30 years,
"I don't care if it's crap, I want it now, I want it
cheap and I don't care if it only last 6 months because
I'll be bored with it by then anyway."

Manufacturers are supplying them with what they asked for.

Jeff


--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"


== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 10:20 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:11:59 -0500, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:

>On 6/27/2011 8:03 AM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>> I had a conservative, slightly paranoid friend (hi, Greg -- miss ya bad) who
>> claimed materials science was sufficiently advanced that auto manufacturers
>> were able to control how long a car engine lasted. I pooh-poohed this, but
>> he was probably correct. Few products are made to last "as long as
>> possible", because it tends to increase the price.
>
>It's NOT some evil conspiracy.
>
>The CONSUMER has been screaming for the past 30 years,
>"I don't care if it's crap, I want it now, I want it
>cheap and I don't care if it only last 6 months because
>I'll be bored with it by then anyway."
>
>Manufacturers are supplying them with what they asked for.

Not exactly. In the not so distant past, manufacturers produced
products, set prices as best they could, and retailers did their best
to sell at that price point. No more. With the demise of the small
retailers, the large warehouse stores are doing it backwards. They
set a price at which they know they can sell and make a profit, and
then demand that their suppliers deliver at that price. If the
supplier complains, then another supplier will be found. Walmart is
famous for doing that. The result is that manufacturers have
cheapened their products, reduced the quality, cut corners, deleted
options, etc. Anything to meet the price target. If there are any
subsequent quality problems, it's cheaper to deal with warranty
returns, than to design in the necessary quality that prevent returns.

I see something quite different than customers that get bored in 6
months. I get complaints that it only lasts 6 months and that they
want quality at any price. I deliver quite a few overkill computer
systems, where a lesser machine would have been more than adequate. I
see hybrid auto sales doing quite well, mostly on the basis of quality
and alleged economy, where both would be difficult to innumerate and
financially justify. The GUM (great unwashed masses) may have been
demanding cheap junk for 30 years, but now seem to have begun to tire
of the junk.

As for controlling product lifetime, it's been here for quite a while.
Semiconductor life can be predicted based on the number of thermal
cycles. Electrolytic capacitor life can be predicted by a combination
of temperature and operating conditions. Battery lifetimes are well
known and controllable. High power LED's have a predictable lifetime.
I've seen products (i.e. old Sony TV's and monitors) that seem to have
had components selected for a specific target lifetime. Modeling
programs make such designs fairly easy.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 10:44 pm
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> They
> set a price at which they know they can sell and make a profit, and
> then demand that their suppliers deliver at that price. If the
> supplier complains, then another supplier will be found. Walmart is
> famous for doing that. The result is that manufacturers have
> cheapened their products, reduced the quality, cut corners, deleted
> options, etc. Anything to meet the price target. If there are any
> subsequent quality problems, it's cheaper to deal with warranty
> returns, than to design in the necessary quality that prevent returns.

It's a lot older than you think. Around 1980 or so, Sears wanted to sell a
black and white portable TV and they could not get anyone in the US or Japan
to sell them one.

They shopped around and found Samsung, which was a large company in Korea,
but unheard of outside who was willing to do it. That's when the large
international Korean electronics giants were born.

As for quality programs, it's not the build quality that matters as much
as you think. It's the testing. Intel started it (although they may probably
were not the first) when they produced RAM chips for the IBM PC and other
small computers.

The only made only produced one chip speed and if the chips failed, they were
tested at a slower speed, if they failed that they were tested until they
failed at the slowest speed sold, or passed one of the tests.

They actually had to do it, their first chips were so bad that ECC (error
correcting code) processing had to be built into the hardware of the first
computer made using them. It was done at the XEROX PARC, you can read about
it in "Dealers in Lightening".

Now they don't bother to test anything at the manufacturing plant, the
consumer tests it for them. :-(

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Making your enemy reliant on software you support is the best revenge.


== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 2:47 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:o9ni07tdgtqi38t7pa5q9mjb5u7hm5voeu@4ax.com...

> In the not so distant past, manufacturers produced
> products, set prices as best they could, and retailers did their best
> to sell at that price point. No more. With the demise of the small
> retailers, the large warehouse stores are doing it backwards. They
> set a price at which they know they can sell and make a profit, and
> then demand that their suppliers deliver at that price. If the
> supplier complains, then another supplier will be found. Walmart is
> famous for doing that.

Wal*mart also (supposedly) insists that suppliers reduce their prices every
year.

I know of no other "big box" store that does these things.

I've been in Wal*mart a few times, and I didn't see where their prices were
categorically lower than other stores'. Regardless, I don't buy from
Wal*mart.

I'm old enough to remember when discounting was uncommon. Luskin's ("Jack
and Joe will save you dough.") of Baltimore was one of the first stores in
the US to discount appliances, electronics, etc. It's now taken for granted
that you don't pay "list price" for anything -- assuming that "list price"
has any meaning.


> The result is that manufacturers have
> cheapened their products, reduced the quality, cut corners, deleted
> options, etc. Anything to meet the price target. If there are any
> subsequent quality problems, it's cheaper to deal with warranty
> returns, than to design in the necessary quality that prevent returns.

In the case of Wal*mart, the story goes that companies are sometimes forced
to send production overseas.


> I see something quite different than customers that get bored in 6
> months. I get complaints that it only lasts 6 months and that they
> want quality at any price. I deliver quite a few overkill computer
> systems, where a lesser machine would have been more than adequate. I
> see hybrid auto sales doing quite well, mostly on the basis of quality
> and alleged economy, where both would be difficult to innumerate and
> financially justify. The GUM (great unwashed masses) may have been
> demanding cheap junk for 30 years, but now seem to have begun to tire
> of the junk.

Again, I'm not sure. If that were so, there wouldn't be any $30 DVD players
at Fry's.

Cheap merchandise -- of whatever quality -- is part of the "vicious circle"
of rapid technological change and obsolesence.


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 7:30 am
From: Smitty Two


In article <o9ni07tdgtqi38t7pa5q9mjb5u7hm5voeu@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

> As for controlling product lifetime, it's been here for quite a while.
> Semiconductor life can be predicted based on the number of thermal
> cycles. Electrolytic capacitor life can be predicted by a combination
> of temperature and operating conditions. Battery lifetimes are well
> known and controllable. High power LED's have a predictable lifetime.
> I've seen products (i.e. old Sony TV's and monitors) that seem to have
> had components selected for a specific target lifetime. Modeling
> programs make such designs fairly easy.

Henry Ford ("Ford: The Men and the Machine" is an outstanding book, but
don't waste your time with the movie) sent roving teams of engineers out
to the junkyards of America to dismantle junked Fords and see which
parts were still good. One thing they couldn't find was a worn-out
kingpin, so Ford started making them lighter and cheaper. No sense
having a kingpin outlive the car. That was close to 100 years ago.


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 7:54 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


"Smitty Two" <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:prestwhich-44CFE4.07300028062011@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <o9ni07tdgtqi38t7pa5q9mjb5u7hm5voeu@4ax.com>,
> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

> > As for controlling product lifetime, it's been here for quite a while.
> > Semiconductor life can be predicted based on the number of thermal
> > cycles. Electrolytic capacitor life can be predicted by a combination
> > of temperature and operating conditions. Battery lifetimes are well
> > known and controllable. High power LED's have a predictable lifetime.
> > I've seen products (i.e. old Sony TV's and monitors) that seem to have
> > had components selected for a specific target lifetime. Modeling
> > programs make such designs fairly easy.

> Henry Ford ("Ford: The Men and the Machine" is an outstanding book, but
> don't waste your time with the movie) sent roving teams of engineers out
> to the junkyards of America to dismantle junked Fords and see which
> parts were still good. One thing they couldn't find was a worn-out
> kingpin, so Ford started making them lighter and cheaper. No sense
> having a kingpin outlive the car. That was close to 100 years ago.

Which strikes me as perverse -- why not improve the quality of those parts
that were worn out? Oh, wait... cars would last longer, and there would be
fewer sales, over time.


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 8:32 am
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:44:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
<gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

>Now they don't bother to test anything at the manufacturing plant, the
>consumer tests it for them. :-(

Quite true. Modern robotic manufacturing methods have the advantage
of producing fairly uniform output. The 1.5% AQL QA test is somewhat
of a thing of the past, as it's only necessary to test a tiny number
of sample units, to predict the performance of the rest.

From my experience, in the distant past, 100% parametric (partial)
testing of the product along the production line gives better results.
This is where key parts of the PCB are indirectly tested during board
assembly, but before final assembly. Tests such as total current
drain, end to end gain, board weight, and visual (camera) inspection,
do not provide a complete test, but give a fair indication if the PCB
is going to work. The idea is to eliminate final test, which such
methods do fairly well. The assumption is that a collection of small
tests during assembly, do better than a final test. To the casual
observer, it may look bad that there's no final test, but along the
board assembly line, there's plenty of testing being done.
Incidentally, some robotic parts stuffers test the components as they
are inserted in the PCB.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 9:00 am
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:47:38 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>Wal*mart also (supposedly) insists that suppliers reduce their prices every
>year.

Walmart offers the suppliers increased sales volume in trade for a
decreased profit margin. That will work only if the supplier has an
efficiency improvement program in place. It will also only work with
suppliers that are large enough to have sufficient credit available to
fund such programs. That eliminates all but the largest suppliers.

The dilemma for Walmart is that there are really only a few vendors
qualified to sell to Walmart under such a program. There's also
little to stop them from illegally organizing and fixing prices. When
this happens, Walmart finds a medium size supplier, and offers to back
their growth into a large supplier, in trade for profit margin
concessions. How it works in Mexico:
<http://econ.la.psu.edu/~jtybout/SDS%20and%20NAFTA_NBER.pdf>
The US gets cheap Mexican products, while Mexico gets Walmart.

>I know of no other "big box" store that does these things.

My father sold lingerie to Sears during the 1960's thru mid 1980's.
Sears wasn't as obnoxious and as demanding as Walmart, but such
pricing policies (and others) were well established. However, Sears
had a different goal. They were not after the best price. They were
into growth. What they did was build up the business of their
suppliers, knowing that the supplier would need to obtain expensive
financing, and then abruptly cut off all orders. They could then buy
what was left of their supplier for peanuts.

>In the case of Wal*mart, the story goes that companies are sometimes forced
>to send production overseas.

Most domestic companies would prefer to use domestic production
facilities. It can be done, but not at the price points set by
Walmart. Similarly, if the competition wants to sell anywhere near
the same price point, they too have to go offshore, even if they don't
sell to Walmart.

>Cheap merchandise -- of whatever quality -- is part of the "vicious circle"
>of rapid technological change and obsolesence.

Good, fast, cheap.... pick two. The buying public has chosen fast and
cheap, so the quality will suffer. Where problems start is when
quality is unobtainable at any price. That's where I think we're
going.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 9:09 am
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:47:38 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>Wal*mart also (supposedly) insists that suppliers reduce their prices every
>year.

It's not just Walmart. Here's Apple demanding what appears to be
regular price cuts on iPad components:
Report: Apple Demands 10 Percent Price Cuts from iPad
Parts Suppliers
<http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387397,00.asp>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 1:48 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"


"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:eltj075ohf1fut782utg6uatalibtn3ud1@4ax.com...

>> Cheap merchandise -- of whatever quality -- is part of the
>> "vicious circle" of rapid technological change and obsolesence.

> Good, fast, cheap.... pick two. The buying public has chosen fast
> and cheap, so the quality will suffer. Where problems start is when
> quality is unobtainable at any price. That's where I think we're going.

Regardless of whether this is true or false, it's definitely has hurt Sony,
which depended on its premium products to create a favorable image for
everything it sold.

Sony used to be a true innovator that make a lot of Neat Stuff, but those
days seem gone. Glad I got a 7M3 AIBO while they were still available.

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TOPIC: Top Posting Fuckwit On Loose
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 5:53 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:27:14 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

> "Meat Plow"
>>>
>>> ** OK - now I know for an absolute fact I am up against a total
>>> fuckwit.
>>
>> Then why bother replying?
>
>
> ** Read my reply - it explains itself.
>
>
> .... Phil

Seems you are mostly ego driven when you entrap someone. You might try
being a bit more hospitable towards you inferiors.

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse


== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 6:19 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Meat Plow Scumbag"
>
>>
>>>> ** OK - now I know for an absolute fact I am up against a total
>>>> fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Then why bother replying?
>>
>>
>> ** Read my reply - it explains itself.
>>
>
> Seems you are mostly ego driven when you entrap someone.


** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.

Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own words
all the time.

I simply point this out occasionally.

FOAD.


.... Phil

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 7:56 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:19:35 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

> "Meat Plow Scumbag"
>>
>>
>>>>> ** OK - now I know for an absolute fact I am up against a total
>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> Then why bother replying?
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Read my reply - it explains itself.
>>>
>>>
>> Seems you are mostly ego driven when you entrap someone.
>
>
> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>
> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
> words
> all the time.
>
> I simply point this out occasionally.
>
> FOAD.
>
>
> .... Phil

Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse


== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 8:03 pm
From: "Phil Allison"


> "Meat Plow Scumbag"
>>
>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>
>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
>> words all the time.
>>
>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>
>> FOAD.
>>
>
> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.


** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.

You lying pile of psychotic dung.

Get cancer and fucking DIE.

.... Phil


== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 10:55 pm
From: Alias


Meat Plow Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in
<news:pan.2011.06.28.00.53.16@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:27:14 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> "Meat Plow"
>>>>
>>>> ** OK - now I know for an absolute fact I am up against a total
>>>> fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Then why bother replying?
>>
>> ** Read my reply - it explains itself.
>>
>> .... Phil
>
> Seems you are mostly ego driven when you entrap someone. You might try
> being a bit more hospitable towards you inferiors.

Stop begging him to be nice to you, loser. You don't deserve his
mercy.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID
: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID
: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID
: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID
: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
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Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
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1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
..-----------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith }
{ son Easton }
{ son Zakary }
{ daughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'-----------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
..---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
..--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
..---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
..--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'


----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID
: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
|
'-----.
.---. .-----. |
| | '---. | |
'-. `-----|-' |
| '---'
'------------->
thataway

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 2:47 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:03:59 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

>> "Meat Plow Scumbag"
>>>
>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>
>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
>>> words all the time.
>>>
>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>
>>> FOAD.
>>>
>>>
>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>
>
> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>
> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>
> Get cancer and fucking DIE.

You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
It's time you grew up Phil. I myself have little patience
with people trying to be impostors. But I rarely show it.
Some times it's just better to bite your lip and move
on and not call people frauds, fuckwits, etc...For fuck's
sake Phil if you did that with customers who always think they
know something you'd be sitting at your bench with a thumb up
your ass. I've been in the business, at a time doing warranty
work for 30 different global manufacturers so I know the business.
Sometimes I'm wrong but I don't attack people like you do. I usually
admit my wrongs gracefully and move along. I'm always in a learning
process. If you aren't and think you know everything, you are dead
wrong. I'd like to see you with a better attitude toward those that
don't have your considerable knowledge.

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse


== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 4:24 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Meat Plow Criminal Scumbag"
>>
>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>
>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
>>>> words all the time.
>>>>
>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>
>>>> FOAD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>
>>
>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>
>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>
>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>
> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".


** WRONG !!

They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!

You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE

DROP FUCKING DEAD

.... Phil


== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 5:06 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:24:41 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

> "Phil Allison Criminal Scumbag"
>>>
>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their
>>>>> own words all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>>
>>>>> FOAD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>>
>>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>>
>>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>>
>> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
>
>
> ** WRONG !!
>
> They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!
>
> You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE
>
> DROP FUCKING DEAD
>
>
>
> .... Phil

As if by some magical spell you prove me correct in my assessment of you.


--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse


== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 5:26 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Meat Plow Criminal Scumbag"

>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>
>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
>>>> words all the time.
>>>>
>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>
>>>> FOAD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>
>>
>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>
>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>
>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>
> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".


** WRONG !!

They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!

You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE

DROP FUCKING DEAD

.... Phil

== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 5:31 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:26:43 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

> "Meat Plow Criminal Scumbag"
>
>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their
>>>>> own words all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>>
>>>>> FOAD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>>
>>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>>
>>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>>
>> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
>
>
> ** WRONG !!
>
> They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!
>
> You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE
>
> DROP FUCKING DEAD
>
>
>
> .... Phil

Go assfuck a kangaroo, Phil. Maybe you will calm down.

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse


== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 8:39 pm
From: Alias


Meat Plow Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in
<news:pan.2011.06.29.00.30.39@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>:

> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:26:43 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> "Meat Plow Criminal Scumbag"
>>
>>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their
>>>>>> own words all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FOAD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>>>
>>>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>>>
>>>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>>>
>>> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
>>
>> ** WRONG !!
>>
>> They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!
>>
>> You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE
>>
>> DROP FUCKING DEAD
>>
>> .... Phil
>
> Go assfuck a kangaroo, Phil. Maybe you will calm down.

Go assfuck a gay biker dude, Willy. Maybe you will calm down.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID
: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID
: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID
: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID
: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
..-----------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith }
{ son Easton }
{ son Zakary }
{ daughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'-----------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
..---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
..----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
..--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
..-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
..---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
..--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'


----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID
: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
|
'-----.
.---. .-----. |
| | '---. | |
'-. `-----|-' |
| '---'
'------------->
thataway

== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 8:49 pm
From: Alias


Meat Plow Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in
<news:pan.2011.06.29.00.06.31@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>:

> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:24:41 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> "Phil Allison Criminal Scumbag"
>>>>
>>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their
>>>>>> own words all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FOAD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>>>
>>>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>>>
>>>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>>>
>>> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
>>
>> ** WRONG !!
>>
>> They all, including YOU, expose themselves !!!
>>
>> You lying, fucking RABID NUT CASE
>>
>> DROP FUCKING DEAD
>>
>> .... Phil
>
> As if by some magical spell you prove me correct in my assessment of you.

Oh, do shut up, you low-rent loser. You run a shitty little fixit shop
repairing toasters, TVs and guitar amps. You live in a crappy little
rented house, you drive a broken-down 8 year old, 80,000 mile GMC
cheapomobile, you got sued for $8666.97 in unpaid credit card debt
that yer still not able to pay, and you've been caught surfing gay
porn.

So you've got NO room to criticize anyone, loser.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID
: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID
: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID
: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID
: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
.----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
.-----------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith }
{ son Easton }
{ son Zakary }
{ daughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'-----------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
.---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
.-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
.--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
.-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
.---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
.--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
.----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
.-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'


----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID
: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway

== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 9:10 pm
From: Alias


Meat Plow Meat Plow <mhywattt@yahoo.com> wrote in
<news:pan.2011.06.28.21.46.37@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>:

> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:03:59 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>>> "Meat Plow Scumbag"
>>>>
>>>> ** I do not set up traps nor ever entrap anyone.
>>>>
>>>> Lying fools and bulshitters like YOU condemn themselves in their own
>>>> words all the time.
>>>>
>>>> I simply point this out occasionally.
>>>>
>>>> FOAD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jeeze, you prove my point as by magic.
>>
>> ** Exposing * yourself * publicly as a fraud and a liar is no trap.
>>
>> You lying pile of psychotic dung.
>>
>> Get cancer and fucking DIE.
>
> You expose anyone who disagrees with you as a "fraud".
> It's time you grew up Phil. I myself have little patience
> with people trying to be impostors. But I rarely show it.
> Some times it's just better to bite your lip and move
> on and not call people frauds, fuckwits, etc...For fuck's
> sake Phil if you did that with customers who always think they
> know something you'd be sitting at your bench with a thumb up
> your ass. I've been in the business, at a time doing warranty
> work for 30 different global manufacturers so I know the business.
> Sometimes I'm wrong but I don't attack people like you do. I usually
> admit my wrongs gracefully and move along. I'm always in a learning
> process. If you aren't and think you know everything, you are dead
> wrong. I'd like to see you with a better attitude toward those that
> don't have your considerable knowledge.

Oh, but you are a fraud. Everything you've bragged about here in
usenet has been a lie. So yer an imposter, a fraud, a lying little
weasel fuckwit.

How's that $10 million per year IT consulting business going? Oh? It's
really a small, local fixit shop that nets about $25,000 per year?

How's those half million dollar bank deposits you make on a regular
basis? Oh? You've never had more than $30,000 in liquid assets at any
one time in yer entire pathetic life, and you survive on a $50 per
week food allowance for two people?

How's yer CFO position at Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation? Oh? You never
were allowed near OKOC because yer daddy knew you were too stupid, and
you'd run it into the ground, so none of the corporate historical
documents show you listed as a principal of the company?

How's yer ability to pick up 418 pound oil well motors and carry them
around without help? Oh? The only thing you've 'picked up' that weighs
418 pounds is that morbidly obese gay biker dude that you took back to
yer shitshack hovel for a night of sweaty gay sex?

How's that heterosexuality? Oh? You used the screen name BlancoBear to
search for long-lost relatives, posting yer dead daddy's name, birth
date and birth place, the date of his death, etc., and you were then
caught using that same screen name to surf gay porn at BearPorn.com?
Well, I guess that also answers the next question:

How's that 5'11" 140 pound, athletic Amazon beauty girlfriend of yers?
Oh? She only exists in yer dreams, and the closest you come to a
physical relationship is gay biker dude sex, and late-night humps on
yer male blow-up sex doll?

So, who's the fraud, Willy? Oh, that'd be you.


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WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID
: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID
: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID
: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID
: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
--------------------
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgriffit@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith

2}
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------


Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
.----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'


Sister:
.-----------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith }
{ son Easton }
{ son Zakary }
{ daughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'-----------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'


Sister:
.---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'


Sister:
.----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'


Cousin:
.-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'


Cousin:
.--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'


Cousin:
.-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'


Niece:
.---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'


Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
.--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'


What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
.----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'


What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
.-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
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110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
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http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oilstrike@insightbb.com
admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net
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Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee, it's under investigation in Ohio
and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells, and it no longer does
any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon, too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------


You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID
: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

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thataway


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TOPIC: small battery
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1a957cbd763fd227?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 6:10 pm
From: tyel@att.net


Needing to find an way to power an device that 110 volt transformer in
put reduced to an 0.5 v -2a out put. Wanting to power this device from
an small battery. any thoughts how I can do this??? Thanks Rick


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 7:13 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

<tyel@att.net>
>
> Needing to find an way to power an device that 110 volt transformer in
> put reduced to an 0.5 v -2a out put. Wanting to power this device from
> an small battery. any thoughts how I can do this??? Thanks Rick


** Put a 3 amp diode ( 1N5404 ) in series with a AA NiMN cell.

Probably work fine, depending what your big secret device is.

.... Phil

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TOPIC: Minolta DI551 printer - not dark enough on print
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ca4d366f6119149f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 28 2011 9:15 pm
From: John Robertson


I was hoping there was someone here with experience on these
scanner/printers.

The basic symptom is the image does not go to black, rather it is a
blotchy dark grey. Used to do black just fine, then about a month ago it
changed to this off-black output.

The scanner function works fine - images have good grey scale up to
black so it is likely in the PC Unit or its controller.

There is ample toner (really, lots), and the toner feed appears to work
fine - plus there is no Toner error message.

The grid voltage is 740VDC - not sure if this is low or not, as even
thought the service manual says the value is marked there I can't find
it. Perhaps I should play with that, but reluctant to change settings on
this sort of thing - so I played with the density settings on function
25 - no improvement.

It would be nice if there was a Minolta forum somewhere...but haven't
found it (will look again after posting this) so far.

My photocopy folks are trying to sell me an OKI CX1145MFP for $1500
which sounds like a good deal, but I would rather not upgrade unless
this (DI551) is really toast.

Thanks in advance!

John :-#)#
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