etpm@whidbey.com: Dec 30 09:45AM -0800
Well, I peeked inside the amp and took off the transformer covers. There are indeed 3 transformers. From what folks have said I half expected to find some sort of weights under the xmfr covers because the amp is so heavy. Nope, just copper and iron. Inside the amp are no solid state devices but for the Bluetooth module, which connects to the input through a relay. So the amp switches automatically between inputs depending on whether the Bluetooth module is recieving a signal. On to the tubes. I turned the amp on again last night and just listened. After a while, maybe 45 minutes, I heard a crackle. Looking carefully at the tubes I noticed that one of the EL34 tubes was glowing brighter at the top than the other EL34 tube. There is a mica disc in the top of the tube and a little of the filament protrudes through a small hole in the mica. And this is what was glowing brighter. I tapped the tube and heard the noise coming out of just the left speaker. Tapping the right side tube produced no noise. I though that maybe one tube was getting more voltage than the other so I waited for things to cool down and then swapped tubes. The same tube got brighter but was now on the right side. So the tube must be bad because the problem travels with the tube and the same tube gets brighter no matter which side it is plugged into. So, anybody have suggestions on tubes? I'm not an audiophile. My hearing isn't good enough. I don't think matched pair tubes would make any difference to me ears. But I can hear well enough so a fairly high quality tube set would be desirable. And I do think I should get a pair so that they will hopefully last tghe same amount of time. Thanks, Eric |
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Dec 30 12:11PM -0600
> So, anybody have suggestions on tubes? <https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/el34b-valve-art> -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Dec 31 05:21AM +1100
> pair so that they will hopefully last tghe same amount of time. > Thanks, > Eric **Sure. Dump it and buy a decent solid state amp. Almost anything will be far more reliable and better sounding. Why bother with a cheap, Chinese tube amp? -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
etpm@whidbey.com: Dec 30 10:50AM -0800
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 05:21:03 +1100, Trevor Wilson >**Sure. Dump it and buy a decent solid state amp. Almost anything will >be far more reliable and better sounding. Why bother with a cheap, >Chinese tube amp? Because I like it. It sounds good. People spontaneously comment on how good it sounds. Not how it sounds almost as good as a solid state amp. And I like tubes. Are you grumpy today? Eric |
etpm@whidbey.com: Dec 30 12:50PM -0800
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 12:11:47 -0600, Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net> wrote: >On 12/30/19 11:45 AM, etpm@whidbey.com wrote: >> So, anybody have suggestions on tubes? ><https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/el34b-valve-art> Thanks Jeff. I may order them today. Trevor at Rage Audio just raged at me and told me to throw away my tube amp. I wonder if the heat Down Under is getting to him? Eric |
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Dec 31 09:27AM +1100
>> be far more reliable and better sounding. Why bother with a cheap, >> Chinese tube amp? > Because I like it. It sounds good. **How do you know? Have you compared it to a decent, inexpensive solid state amp? Are you certain that it is not simply acting as an expensive, unreliable filter? People spontaneously comment on > how good it sounds. **How would they know? By a very considerable margin, loudspeakers and room acoustics, dominate the sound of a system. All amplifiers, unless they are faulty (like cheap, shitty tube amps) sound very similar. Particularly to listeners who have little of no familiarity with the system. Not how it sounds almost as good as a solid state > amp. And I like tubes. **Well, I guess we're different. I like my system to provide a close illusion of the original musical event. No tone controls and no (audible) distortion. If that result can be achieved with tubes (and it can, but it costs a lot), then great. SS does it cheaper and more reliably. > Are you grumpy today? **Well, yes, but that's another story. I'm very angry with my global warming denying government. I'm stuck with the morons for a few more years. Just as Americans are stuck with man with the intellect and maturity of a 10 year old boy for POTUS. Still, there is hope. Not much though. I suggest you try a decent, inexpensive SS amp. Dump the tubes. Good tube amps do sound pretty damned good. Trouble is, they are REALLY expensive. For budget sound systems, SS does it better. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Dec 31 09:29AM +1100
> at me and told me to throw away my tube amp. I wonder if the heat Down > Under is getting to him? > Eric **34 degrees here in Sydney today. Not too bad, but the smoke from the bushfires (and the bushfires themselves) is taking it's toll. Depressing stuff. This is going to be our future. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
etpm@whidbey.com: Dec 30 02:34PM -0800
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 09:27:29 +1100, Trevor Wilson >I suggest you try a decent, inexpensive SS amp. Dump the tubes. Good >tube amps do sound pretty damned good. Trouble is, they are REALLY >expensive. For budget sound systems, SS does it better. On the 1st Satuday in August I will be roasting my 25th pig. It's an annual party. Why don't you fly up and camp out? We have 10 or 12 wooded acres. I have an extra tent. It's a good party and you can listen to my shitty tube amp and grouse about it while we grouse about our shitty "leaders". I'm sure the amp will sound better than Trump. Eric |
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Dec 31 09:43AM +1100
> listen to my shitty tube amp and grouse about it while we grouse about > our shitty "leaders". I'm sure the amp will sound better than Trump. > Eric **Thank you, but no thanks. Pork is not a meat I like to eat. Have you tried a decent, but inexpensive SS amp? I'd rather listen to, well, ANYTHING, but Trump. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Dec 30 03:02PM -0800
> pair so that they will hopefully last tghe same amount of time. > Thanks, > Eric The Russians make pretty good EL34s these days, but I prefer the old 6CA7s. I still have a small stash of those left. |
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Dec 31 10:06AM +1100
On 31/12/2019 10:02 am, John-Del wrote: >> Thanks, >> Eric > The Russians make pretty good EL34s these days, but I prefer the old 6CA7s. I still have a small stash of those left. **Me too. I have a bunch of those steel, MIL-Spec ones. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |