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* Don't try this at home. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/654bc359eac6fafb?hl=en
* ATX power supply fan noisy. - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c9cc85470d364e01?hl=en
* Ampex 601 Reel to Reel plays back fine but has only AC hum in record mode -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/4809b98e5968ff10?hl=en
* Part # of Magnetron for Microwave Oven Emerson MW9107WC - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f77addde8cb547fd?hl=en
* Sony KV-2784R horiz problem - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf85a32f811047d5?hl=en
* Looks similar search engine? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/6de20fea92c27ebc?hl=en
* NJ Family Lawyer Charles Novins Accepts Apologies From Former Net Abusers -
2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/094071d9078e21a9?hl=en
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TOPIC: Don't try this at home.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/654bc359eac6fafb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 12:40 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"
>> Transmission lines are usually at a higher voltage.
>> How did he step it down? For that matter, how did
>> he connect it to his distribution box?
> Agreed. Odd are he tapped into a neighborhood line.
> Although 20 years ago the homeless people living
> under the freeways in Miami, FL routinely tapped into
> the 400 volt lines for the freeway lights.
What 440V equipment did they connect this power to?
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TOPIC: ATX power supply fan noisy.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c9cc85470d364e01?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 12:51 pm
From: Baron
David Farber Inscribed thus:
> baron wrote:
>> JeffM Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> David Farber wrote:
>>>> How much is that in US dollars and cents?
>>>>
>>> http://google.com/search?q=0.50+GBP+in+USD
>>
>> Thanks Jeff. :-) Beat me to doing the conversion to 75cents.
>
> Wow. I'm on the wrong side of the pond. )-:
>
Over here every man and his dog wants at least two in their PC tower
case. Some with pretty coloured lights that flash and change colour at
random. ;-)
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 12:56 pm
From: Baron
David Farber Inscribed thus:
> William R. Walsh wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> That NMB fan is actually a pretty good quality unit, although I have
>> seen some failed ones over the years.
>>
>> What you might do to extend its lifetime is to simply oil the
>> bearings. That will quiet it down and keep it running for many more
>> years to come. Just lift the label, remove a little rubber plug (only
>> with some fans) and drop some light oil in there.
>>
>> Even if you replace the fan, you might want to do the same thing to
>> the replacement. Doing so can drastically increase the lifetime of
>> the fan, especially if the replacement is cheap.
>>
>> William
>
> Hi William,
>
> Thanks for the tip on extending the lifetime of the fan.
Not always a good idea. Some have a synthetic lubrication which will
turn into sludge if you add a non synthetic oil to it. You can
sometimes get away with it on sleeve bearings particularly older fans.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 5:07 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"
"David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4bd9db02$0$15023$bd467cd0@news.dslextreme.com...
> Andy wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:53:43 -0700, "David Farber"
>> <farberbear.unspam@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to replace this two-wire, 80mm square, power supply
>>> fan. The power supply is used in an AudioReQuest music server and is
>>> powered on continuously. The part number is, NMB-MAT 7 followed by a
>>> model number of, 3110GL-B4W-B54. 12V DC, 0.30A. I've found a few
>>> places online that have them listed but when I call they, don't have
>>> them in stock or the price is prohibitively expensive. Is there some
>>> generic fan that will replace this and not cost more than the power
>>> supply itself?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply.
>> COOLER MASTER SAF-B82-E1 80mm Case Fan
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999069
>
> I think we have a winner! $6.99 and free shipping. Tough to beat that.
> --
> David Farber
> David Farber's Service Center
> L.A., CA
>
And roller bearings too ! That one's gotta be your boy ...
Arfa
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 5:22 pm
From: "William R. Walsh"
Hi!
> Not always a good idea.
I doubt the tolerances are that close in this sort of application. From what
I've seen, and from pre-emptively oiling fans before they could fail, very
few fan makers provide much of any additional lubrication to the fan
bearings. It's a rare fan that I've exposed the bearings on and found a
chunk of grease in there.
Of the fans I've rejuvenated by oiling, only a few were unresponsive to
treatment or would not continue running. These were the cheapest of the
cheap--all the rest continue to run perfectly.
William
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 8:47 pm
From: AZ Nomad
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:22:45 -0500, William R. Walsh <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com> wrote:
>Hi!
>> Not always a good idea.
>I doubt the tolerances are that close in this sort of application. From what
>I've seen, and from pre-emptively oiling fans before they could fail, very
>few fan makers provide much of any additional lubrication to the fan
>bearings. It's a rare fan that I've exposed the bearings on and found a
>chunk of grease in there.
>Of the fans I've rejuvenated by oiling, only a few were unresponsive to
>treatment or would not continue running. These were the cheapest of the
>cheap--all the rest continue to run perfectly.
>William
I've never had the any luck rejuvenating fans with lubrication after the
fan's bearings have started to howl. By that stage of the game, the fan's cheap
worn out plastic bearings have so much slop, that nothing short of perhaps axle
grease will fill the slop.
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TOPIC: Ampex 601 Reel to Reel plays back fine but has only AC hum in record
mode
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/4809b98e5968ff10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 1:07 pm
From: "Dave M"
Meat Plow wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:49:05 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> "Meat Plow"
>>>
>>> What's the URL of the schematic?
>>
>> **See:
>>
>> http://recordist.com/ampex/schematics/601man/601schem.gif
>>
>>
>> ** Wanna bet the mic input tranny is missing and /or the hum balance
>> trim pot is burnt out ?
>
> How is the OP is recording, from Line or MIC? Don't remember and you
> snipped the quote.
>
> Hum balance is R-147?
OP says that the hum is present when recording from both mic and line
inputs. Sounds like a ground connection is broken somewhere around V101,
V102 or V103. Also check those tubes for heater-cathode short. Check line
record level pot and mic record level pot for broken grround connection or
open wiper.
Make sure that the bias oscillator (V103B) is running in record mode.
--
David
dgminala at mediacombb dot net
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TOPIC: Part # of Magnetron for Microwave Oven Emerson MW9107WC
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f77addde8cb547fd?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 1:31 pm
From: "Dave M"
Yimin Rong wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Can someone tell me the part # of the magnetron for microwave oven
> Emerson MW9107WC?
>
> I know I could probably just take it apart and see for myself, but
> would like to determine cost effectiveness of getting a replacement
> part and repairing myself, bringing to service technician, or just
> getting a new one.
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
> Yimin
Would be easiest for you to call some of the service parts vendors for part
number, cost and availability.
MCM Electronics
email tech@mcmelectronics.com
phone (800) 824-8324
M-F 8am-5pm ET
MAT Electronics
Phone (800) 628-1118
M-F 9:00 AM to 7:00 PM EST
Saturday 9:00 AM to 2:00 PM EST
sales@matelectronics.com
Electronix Corporation
Phone: (800) 223-3205 or (937) 878-1828
sales@electronix.com
Don't forget to call any appliance parts stores in your area. Yellow pages
are a good help.
--
David
dgminala at mediacombb dot net
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 3:35 pm
From: "Colin Horsley"
"Yimin Rong" <yiminrong@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:f0d91b1e-edd5-4699-804d-1d1ed4e8fa7b@s2g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
Greetings,
Can someone tell me the part # of the magnetron for microwave oven
Emerson MW9107WC?
I know I could probably just take it apart and see for myself, but
would like to determine cost effectiveness of getting a replacement
part and repairing myself, bringing to service technician, or just
getting a new one.
Thanks for reading,
Yimin
_____________________________
How do you know the Magnetron is faulty, and not another component?
Colin
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 6:43 pm
From: Franc Zabkar
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:08:09 -0700 (PDT), Yimin Rong
<yiminrong@yahoo.ca> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>Can someone tell me the part # of the magnetron for microwave oven
>Emerson MW9107WC?
>
>I know I could probably just take it apart and see for myself, but
>would like to determine cost effectiveness of getting a replacement
>part and repairing myself, bringing to service technician, or just
>getting a new one.
According to Emerson's web site, and owner's manual, the warranty on
the magnetron is 7 years (parts only):
http://web.archive.org/web/20071218075723/http://www.emersonelectronics.ca/emerson/en/product/details/2375
- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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TOPIC: Sony KV-2784R horiz problem
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf85a32f811047d5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 1:54 pm
From: bill@love.ranch
Thanks Chuck, I was just going to ask that.
How is it usually checked.
There is no continuity between coils at DC.
coil resistance seems within reason but as low as it is that probably
isn't a very good test.
I haven't got one laying around to sub.
It is, after all, 24 yrs old. But the CRT is still OK.
Can they be had and at what price????????
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:37 -0500, Chuck <chuckh@deja.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:21:00 -0400, bill@love.ranch wrote:
>
>>Sony KV-2784R died - horiz collapse - fuse F501 blown - pressing power
>>button causes TV to try to start then stops - very soft high freq buzz
>>is heard. Remote control will not start it. HOT and all diodes in area
>>test OK with ohmmeter. Fuse is somewhat blackened at end where it
>>seperated, so it wasn't a slight overload. I do not have schematics.
>>Is there any history of common component failures here.Just for ref, I
>>am very technical and had a repair shop in the 80's - this was built
>>11/86 - just after I closed the shop. So speak to me at that level,
>>thx.
>
>Most common failure on these is a shorted flyback. Chuck
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TOPIC: Looks similar search engine?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/6de20fea92c27ebc?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 4:14 pm
From: kaboom
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:05:09 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
wrote:
>Where you can upload a pic of a mystery item somewhere, direct a search
>engine to it , analyses it and finds similar. ?
>I have a no name web cam I would like to find a driver for and also a few
>hundred, no context silver-plated brass widgets , no name /number etc also,
>I'd like to identify
**Would something like this work?
Though I think you'd have to load the picture somewhere first like
flickr or something.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:28 am
From: "N_Cook"
kaboom <kaboomicus@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ml4kt55rq6kj5ldemjng0oajrtqvbcqbu5@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:05:09 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Where you can upload a pic of a mystery item somewhere, direct a search
> >engine to it , analyses it and finds similar. ?
> >I have a no name web cam I would like to find a driver for and also a
few
> >hundred, no context silver-plated brass widgets , no name /number etc
also,
> >I'd like to identify
>
> **Would something like this work?
>
>
> http://www.tineye.com/
>
> Though I think you'd have to load the picture somewhere first like
> flickr or something.
I imagine that is for copyright infringement tracing, kept returning 0
results whatever I uploaded to it or directed it to
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 30 2010 12:36 am
From: "N_Cook"
GregS <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote in message
news:hrchtq$4m8$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
> In article <83tvd5Fef6U1@mid.individual.net>, Adrian C
<email@here.invalid> wrote:
> >On 29/04/2010 12:05, N_Cook wrote:
> >> Where you can upload a pic of a mystery item somewhere, direct a search
> >> engine to it , analyses it and finds similar. ?
> >> I have a no name web cam I would like to find a driver
> >
> >That's easy (unless some rules have been broken).
> >
> >Google 'usb device id list' and ask your operating system what device id
> >it sees.
> >
> >for and also a few
> >> hundred, no context silver-plated brass widgets , no name /number etc
also,
> >> I'd like to identify
> >
> >That is a bit harder, needs human eyes. Can you post a picture on
> >somewhere like photobucket?
> >
>
> Search engines do not analyse pictures. You do need to up load pictures
and have experts analyse,
> like a forum for silver plated brass widgets. You show them where to find
pictures.
>
> By the way, Yahoo still favors using Flicker for their image library, but
> have greatly improved their image library. I have also noticed they are
better
> than Google at indexing many websites, and like always, you have to use
different
> search engines to find the info you are looking for.
>
> greg
Not really much to photograph
The widgets have a shape like bootlace ferrules but not for crimping as
thicker brass and also silver plating. Maybe a variant of turret tags for
setting in pcb without the turrets or some sort of terminal or pin.
12.5 mm long, hole through axis with a ridge around the outside, one end 1mm
hole and 2.5mm outside dimension and other end 2.8mm hole and 3.8mm outside.
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TOPIC: NJ Family Lawyer Charles Novins Accepts Apologies From Former Net
Abusers
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/094071d9078e21a9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 7:49 pm
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
On 29/04/2010 18:45, The Greatest wrote:
>
> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"<dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message news:83tcnrFo3eU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 28/04/2010 22:48, The Greatest wrote:
>>>
>>> "Hagar"<hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message news:c8WdnSXAPryiMUXWnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "The Greatest"<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:PLWdnf-7YKfW2UXWnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@centurytel.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Al Ekman"<alekman@invalid.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:3n5uf3.te9.19.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>> Yet more Usenet posters have addressed Charles Novins publicly, all
>>>>> expressing regret for past actions, and vowing to join him in the fight
>>>>> against online abuse.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original abuses and libels were spread across numerous groups, but
>>>>> often
>>>>> originated in, "alt.usenet.kooks," which had become an "internet cesspool
>>>>> in
>>>>> recent years.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brief look is sufficient:
>>>>> http://sikoz.notlong.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Some posters insisted on public apologies, and several others have done
>>>>> the
>>>>> fight thing privately; Many decided to correct their intemperate comments,
>>>>> without the need for any resort to courts or formal agreements.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few of those insisting on a public statement may be referenced at these
>>>>> links:
>>>>> http://apologee6.notlong.com
>>>>> http://apologee7.notlong.com
>>>>> http://apologee8.notlong.com
>>>>> http://apologee.notlong.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the fight continues.
>>>>>
>>>>> One attorney tried his hand at libel - while disbarred for other
>>>>> infractions - and after getting his law license back, maintains a lower
>>>>> profile:
>>>>> http://allaboutmiguel.notlong.com
>>>>> The typical libeler has more common drives, skin-color often being one.
>>>>> This guy posts as "Henri:"
>>>>> http://henreee.notlong.com
>>>>> This anonymous hater seems to have a problem with Novins's Jewish
>>>>> heritage:
>>>>> http://jewlawyer.notlong.com
>>>>> Others have had trouble with the law, and can operate only online in
>>>>> relative safety:
>>>>> http://allaboutglb.notlong.com
>>>>> Still others fight hard to keep the poisonous hate going - if the
>>>>> pointless
>>>>> conflicts are resolved through apologies, retractions, they fear they'll
>>>>> be
>>>>> seen as the "odd person out." These sorts have been hating and abusing
>>>>> for
>>>>> so long, they know little else. This particular one eschews easy access
>>>>> for
>>>>> others to her ravings, and removes them from the web. Her Usenet comments
>>>>> are at Her Usenet comments are at message ID:
>>>>> <3n4qf8.pu8.19.2@news.alt.net> Note the typical paranoia at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Law Offices of Charles Novins has become a clearinghouse for
>>>>> information
>>>>> about anonymous internet stalkers, harrassers, abusers, and other online
>>>>> undesirables. The firm also has acquired a large store of knowledge,
>>>>> pleadings, and other useful materials aimed at dealing with the internet's
>>>>> more unfortunate players.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reach his firm at: http://charlesnovinsesq.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Al Ekman
>>>>> [This message has been sent to groups in which the original defamatory
>>>>> post
>>>>> appeared]
>>>>
>>>> Well said, my good man.
>>>>
>>>> There is now hope for a "New Beginning" in Usenet !!
>>>> --
>>>> HJ
>>>>
>>>> *************************************
>>>>
>>>> Oh Noes ... Political Correctness in the News Groups ??? What
>>>> next ... singing praise to Osama ???
>>>
>>> There are limits !!!!
>>> --
>>> HJ
>>
>> So when's PeeWee Ross due to grovel?
>> --
>> Dirk
>
> Thank you so much for your question!
>
> Don't hold your breath as Peter "Eater" Ross is an English fag and is beyond the reach of American law. One can only hope that he will move to the US to get his "Just deserts" !!
> --
> HJ
Nothing to stop you suing him for libel here.
English libel law is the most vicious and illiberal in the Western world.
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 29 2010 8:31 pm
From: "The Greatest"
"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" <dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message news:83uup0Fr5pU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 29/04/2010 18:45, The Greatest wrote:
> >
> > "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"<dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote in message news:83tcnrFo3eU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> On 28/04/2010 22:48, The Greatest wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Hagar"<hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message news:c8WdnSXAPryiMUXWnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> "The Greatest"<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:PLWdnf-7YKfW2UXWnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@centurytel.net...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Al Ekman"<alekman@invalid.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:3n5uf3.te9.19.1@news.alt.net...
> >>>>> Yet more Usenet posters have addressed Charles Novins publicly, all
> >>>>> expressing regret for past actions, and vowing to join him in the fight
> >>>>> against online abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The original abuses and libels were spread across numerous groups, but
> >>>>> often
> >>>>> originated in, "alt.usenet.kooks," which had become an "internet cesspool
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> recent years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A brief look is sufficient:
> >>>>> http://sikoz.notlong.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some posters insisted on public apologies, and several others have done
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> fight thing privately; Many decided to correct their intemperate comments,
> >>>>> without the need for any resort to courts or formal agreements.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few of those insisting on a public statement may be referenced at these
> >>>>> links:
> >>>>> http://apologee6.notlong.com
> >>>>> http://apologee7.notlong.com
> >>>>> http://apologee8.notlong.com
> >>>>> http://apologee.notlong.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meanwhile, the fight continues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One attorney tried his hand at libel - while disbarred for other
> >>>>> infractions - and after getting his law license back, maintains a lower
> >>>>> profile:
> >>>>> http://allaboutmiguel.notlong.com
> >>>>> The typical libeler has more common drives, skin-color often being one.
> >>>>> This guy posts as "Henri:"
> >>>>> http://henreee.notlong.com
> >>>>> This anonymous hater seems to have a problem with Novins's Jewish
> >>>>> heritage:
> >>>>> http://jewlawyer.notlong.com
> >>>>> Others have had trouble with the law, and can operate only online in
> >>>>> relative safety:
> >>>>> http://allaboutglb.notlong.com
> >>>>> Still others fight hard to keep the poisonous hate going - if the
> >>>>> pointless
> >>>>> conflicts are resolved through apologies, retractions, they fear they'll
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> seen as the "odd person out." These sorts have been hating and abusing
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> so long, they know little else. This particular one eschews easy access
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> others to her ravings, and removes them from the web. Her Usenet comments
> >>>>> are at Her Usenet comments are at message ID:
> >>>>> <3n4qf8.pu8.19.2@news.alt.net> Note the typical paranoia at the end.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Law Offices of Charles Novins has become a clearinghouse for
> >>>>> information
> >>>>> about anonymous internet stalkers, harrassers, abusers, and other online
> >>>>> undesirables. The firm also has acquired a large store of knowledge,
> >>>>> pleadings, and other useful materials aimed at dealing with the internet's
> >>>>> more unfortunate players.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Reach his firm at: http://charlesnovinsesq.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Al Ekman
> >>>>> [This message has been sent to groups in which the original defamatory
> >>>>> post
> >>>>> appeared]
> >>>>
> >>>> Well said, my good man.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is now hope for a "New Beginning" in Usenet !!
> >>>> --
> >>>> HJ
> >>>>
> >>>> *************************************
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh Noes ... Political Correctness in the News Groups ??? What
> >>>> next ... singing praise to Osama ???
> >>>
> >>> There are limits !!!!
> >>> --
> >>> HJ
> >>
> >> So when's PeeWee Ross due to grovel?
> >> --
> >> Dirk
> >
> > Thank you so much for your question!
> >
> > Don't hold your breath as Peter "Eater" Ross is an English fag and is beyond the reach of American law. One can only hope that he will move to the US to get his "Just deserts" !!
> > --
> > HJ
>
> Nothing to stop you suing him for libel here.
> English libel law is the most vicious and illiberal in the Western world.
>
> --
> Dirk
I will write that down on a note pad and send it thru channels !!
Thanks for the info...
--
HJ
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