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* Opened laptop battery to replace lithium ion cells (Lenovo X61 tablet PC) --
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==============================================================================
TOPIC: Opened laptop battery to replace lithium ion cells (Lenovo X61 tablet
PC) -- Where do I get replacement battery cells?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b825f0a2f4a3f913?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 5:32 pm
From: JoeSchmoe

Have you ever opened up your laptop battery to replace the lithium ion
cells inside (if so, I could use the help as I'm stuck).

Here are the pictures of the operation on a Lenovo X61 tablet PC 8-cell
4500 amp-hour battery kidney-transplant operation.

The outside of the IBM Lenovo X61 tablet PC battery pack has the part
numbers:
- FRU 42T4507
- ASM 42T5209

And the batteries themselves, seem to have numbers on them of:
- cylinders BCM 3A6 72653
- rectangles C 3 171353

Any idea where to obtain these lithium ion replacement batteries?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 5:38 pm
From: JoeSchmoe

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:32:57 +0000, JoeSchmoe wrote:
> The outside of the IBM Lenovo X61 tablet PC battery pack has the part
> numbers: FRU 42T4507, ASM 42T5209
>
> And the batteries themselves, seem to have numbers on them of: -
> cylinders BCM 3A6 72653, rectangles C 3 171353
>
> Any idea where to obtain these lithium ion replacement batteries?

Here is a pictorial tutorial, of sorts, for the first half of the Lenovo
X61 tablet PC laptop battery replacement.
0. Short: http://yfrog.com/4ylenovox61tlaptopbatteryjx
1. Direct: http://img178.imageshack.us/g/lenovox61tlaptopbattery.jpg/
(the closing slash is required!)
2. Player: http://img178.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?
id=lenovox61tlaptopbattery.jpg

That tutorial has 18 pictures showing all the steps in breaking open the
dead Lenovo laptop battery pack seamlessly and easily.

The problem now is finding the batteries from the numbers on the
batteries and soldering them back in w/o destroying them.

Any advice/help if you've done this before, is much appreciated!

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:46 pm
From: "WW"

"JoeSchmoe" <nospamjoeschmoe@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:i6ucvp$nri$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Have you ever opened up your laptop battery to replace the lithium ion
> cells inside (if so, I could use the help as I'm stuck).
>
> Here are the pictures of the operation on a Lenovo X61 tablet PC 8-cell
> 4500 amp-hour battery kidney-transplant operation.
>
> The outside of the IBM Lenovo X61 tablet PC battery pack has the part
> numbers:
> - FRU 42T4507
> - ASM 42T5209
>
> And the batteries themselves, seem to have numbers on them of:
> - cylinders BCM 3A6 72653
> - rectangles C 3 171353
>
> Any idea where to obtain these lithium ion replacement batteries?

I just bought 2 lap top batteries, one for Dell and one for HP. Found them
at Mobile Track Power. Good warranty and good prices. Why mess with what
you have? WW

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 9:18 pm
From: ransley

On Sep 16, 7:38 pm, JoeSchmoe <nospamjoesch...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 00:32:57 +0000, JoeSchmoe wrote:
> > The outside of the IBM Lenovo X61 tablet PC battery pack has the part
> > numbers: FRU 42T4507, ASM 42T5209
>
> > And the batteries themselves, seem to have numbers on them of: -
> > cylinders BCM 3A6 72653, rectangles C 3 171353
>
> > Any idea where to obtain these lithium ion replacement batteries?
>
> Here is a pictorial tutorial, of sorts, for the first half of the Lenovo
> X61 tablet PC laptop battery replacement.
> 0. Short:http://yfrog.com/4ylenovox61tlaptopbatteryjx
> 1. Direct:http://img178.imageshack.us/g/lenovox61tlaptopbattery.jpg/
> (the closing slash is required!)
> 2. Player:http://img178.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?
> id=lenovox61tlaptopbattery.jpg
>
> That tutorial has 18 pictures showing all the steps in breaking open the
> dead Lenovo laptop battery pack seamlessly and easily.
>
> The problem now is finding the batteries from the numbers on the
> batteries and soldering them back in w/o destroying them.
>
> Any advice/help if you've done this before, is much appreciated!

I think its a waste of time and risky, those are machine welded, you
will never get them as compact and fit back in place like machine made
packs, soldering and the heat degrades cells, you probably have
electronics in those packs which actualy may be bad , not the
batteries, did you test the voltage of each cell to see if they realy
dont charge , you might buy and solder them up and they will never fit
back in the holder.

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TOPIC: Sony KPR46CX10 tracking problem
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/4919fbb25549d24c?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 5:53 pm
From: Jeff

Hello,

I have a friend that has one of these. She says that from time to
time the picture will scroll. So I know that this is a horizontal
tracking issue. When I worked on tv's years ago they had a knob that
you could adjust them. But that went away years ago.
Is their still a way to make a minor adjustment. She said that
sometimes it will go a weekend with out a problem and sometimes it
comes and goes. She also told me that it never did that when the Wii
was connected to the tv.

Any Ideas...

Thank you,
Jeff

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Cracking open a Galaxy Audio PA amp
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/8c5766cd3739b009?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:03 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:c-6dnXqYAI-4gQ_RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:W-CdnYkpfYV8rQzRnZ2dnUVZ_rKknZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> >
>> > Arfa Daily wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> the damn amp open.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
>> >> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic
>> >> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the
>> >> >> case,
>> >> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no
>> >> >> luck,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
>> > cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to
>> > repair. :)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the
>> 'silly'
>> answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge
>> shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job.
>> British
>> humour, and all that ... :-)
>
>
> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>
>

Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}

Arfa

== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:23 pm
From: Jamie

Arfa Daily wrote:

>
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:c-6dnXqYAI-4gQ_RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
>>
>> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:W-CdnYkpfYV8rQzRnZ2dnUVZ_rKknZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> >
>>> > Arfa Daily wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I
>>> can't >> >> get
>>> >> >> the damn amp open.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough
>>> little
>>> >> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged
>>> plastic
>>> >> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand.
>>> Similar >> >> to
>>> >> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the
>>> chassis
>>> >> >> has
>>> >> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed,
>>> but >> >> I
>>> >> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the
>>> >> >> case,
>>> >> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no
>>> >> >> luck,
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
>>> > cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything
>>> left to
>>> > repair. :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the
>>> 'silly'
>>> answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic
>>> cartridge
>>> shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job.
>>> British
>>> humour, and all that ... :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>>
>>
>
> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
>
> Arfa
>
>
Sure, look who get elected as our leaders :)

== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:18 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:

> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>
> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}

Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy
Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc.

Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we
have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I
despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter
camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for
Chaplin ...)

--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:26 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4c910ad4$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>
>>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote
>>>> controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near-
>>>> unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed.
>>>
>>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>>
>> My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why
>> belts+suspenders,
>> when only one is needed?
>
> Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't this
> damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to hold the
> thing together quite securely?
>
Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force?

== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:33 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 9/16/2010 6:26 PM Bill Graham spake thus:

> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4c910ad4$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>
>> On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>>
>>>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote
>>>>> controls are generally held together with screws /and/ near-
>>>>> unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why both are needed.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>>>
>>> My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why
>>> belts+suspenders, when only one is needed?
>>
>> Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't
>> this damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to
>> hold the thing together quite securely?
>>
> Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force?

More force is definitely not the answer (despite the many jokes here
about dynamite, angle grinders, etc.)

The key was removing the nut around a phone jack on the back of the
case, which you'd know if you read through the rest of the thread.

--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:36 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Rwcko.4403$FK1.2169@newsfe21.iad...
> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2010 9:52 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>>
>>> This product appears to be the pro-audio equivalent of most remote
>>> controls.
>>>
>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are
>>> generally held together with screws /and/ near-unreleasable tabs. I've
>>> never
>>> understood why both are needed.
>>
>>
>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>>
>> There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front of the
>> unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws attach the
>> metal panel to the plastic cabinet.
>>
>> The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the
>> remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or similarly
>> packaged electronics.
>>
>>
> it most likely has a sealant between the front and plastic case to
> prevent vibration at the seem, which is common with that type of
> construction.. These things will stick like mild glue..
>
> With the screws half way, wrap the unit in a soft wrap of some kind
> like foam rubber so you don't scratch it, rest it on a pillow and use
> something like a piece of wood to hit lightly against the screws that are
> half way out.. The shock should push on the plastic behind and break
> the bond!.
>
Yes.....Even if you were to crack the plastic, cracked plastic is a fairly
easy thing to fix, and/or live with. Consider cutting a large hole in the
back, which can later be covered with a glued- on piece of plastic, and used
as an inspection/access hole in the interim. ( I belong to the, "get a
bigger hammer" school of maintenance....:^)

== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 6:54 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:w7zko.11483$vf.9480@newsfe18.ams2...
>
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:c-6dnXqYAI-4gQ_RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>
>> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>>
>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:W-CdnYkpfYV8rQzRnZ2dnUVZ_rKknZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> >
>>> > Arfa Daily wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't
>>> >> >> get
>>> >> >> the damn amp open.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough
>>> >> >> little
>>> >> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged
>>> >> >> plastic
>>> >> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand.
>>> >> >> Similar to
>>> >> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the
>>> >> >> chassis
>>> >> >> has
>>> >> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the
>>> >> >> case,
>>> >> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no
>>> >> >> luck,
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
>>> > cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left
>>> > to
>>> > repair. :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the
>>> 'silly'
>>> answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic
>>> cartridge
>>> shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job.
>>> British
>>> humour, and all that ... :-)
>>
>>
>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>>
>>
>
> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
>
> Arfa
>
>

The American equivalent is, "Get a bigger hammer".

== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 7:05 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4c92c530$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 9/16/2010 6:26 PM Bill Graham spake thus:
>
>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> news:4c910ad4$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>
>>> On 9/15/2010 10:33 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls
>>>>>> are generally held together with screws /and/ near- unreleasable
>>>>>> tabs. I've never understood why both are needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>>>>
>>>> My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why
>>>> belts+suspenders, when only one is needed?
>>>
>>> Ah, so. Actually describes my problem here quite well; why doesn't
>>> this damn thing open up when I remove the screws, which seemed to
>>> hold the thing together quite securely?
>>>
>> Perhaps it will.....Have you used sufficient force?
>
> More force is definitely not the answer (despite the many jokes here about
> dynamite, angle grinders, etc.)
>
> The key was removing the nut around a phone jack on the back of the case,
> which you'd know if you read through the rest of the thread.

As you probably know from reading my posts on other forums, David, I do my
emailing serially, and seldom have the time or inclination to, "Read the
rest of the thread." For one thing, I only get to email at all for a short
time each day, and I try, as far as I can, to be helpful during that short
time. I would think that you would be a little kinder to those of us who are
trying to help you with your problem.....You treat all of us like we are
just a bunch of smart asses, even though there are some of us who would
really like to help you.....If you would prefer, I can always put you in my
kill file, so I won't "waste your time" in the future.

== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 7:22 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Arfa Daily wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:c-6dnXqYAI-4gQ_RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >
> > Arfa Daily wrote:
> >>
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:W-CdnYkpfYV8rQzRnZ2dnUVZ_rKknZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >> >
> >> > Arfa Daily wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't
> >> >> >> get
> >> >> >> the damn amp open.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
> >> >> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic
> >> >> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis
> >> >> >> has
> >> >> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the
> >> >> >> case,
> >> >> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no
> >> >> >> luck,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
> >> > cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to
> >> > repair. :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the
> >> 'silly'
> >> answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic cartridge
> >> shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job.
> >> British
> >> humour, and all that ... :-)
> >
> >
> > And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
> >
> >
>
> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}

Sure, but your senses have been dulled by a lifetime of exposure to
'British Humor' ;-)

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 7:22 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:w7zko.11483$vf.9480@newsfe18.ams2...
> >
> >
> > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:c-6dnXqYAI-4gQ_RnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>
> >> Arfa Daily wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:W-CdnYkpfYV8rQzRnZ2dnUVZ_rKknZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>> >
> >>> > Arfa Daily wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't
> >>> >> >> get
> >>> >> >> the damn amp open.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough
> >>> >> >> little
> >>> >> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged
> >>> >> >> plastic
> >>> >> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand.
> >>> >> >> Similar to
> >>> >> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the
> >>> >> >> chassis
> >>> >> >> has
> >>> >> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but
> >>> >> >> I
> >>> >> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the
> >>> >> >> case,
> >>> >> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no
> >>> >> >> luck,
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
> >>> > cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left
> >>> > to
> >>> > repair. :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> It's a standing joke on that group Michael. "Angle grinder" is the
> >>> 'silly'
> >>> answer when anyone asks for instance how to dismantle a ceramic
> >>> cartridge
> >>> shower valve to clean it, or anything referring to a 'delicate' job.
> >>> British
> >>> humour, and all that ... :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
> >
> > Arfa
> >
> >
>
> The American equivalent is, "Get a bigger hammer".

If you need a bigger hammer, you ARE a redneck.

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 7:48 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> Even if you were to crack the plastic, cracked plastic
> is a fairly easy thing to fix, and/or live with.

True, but cracking the case will sometimes crack the PC board. This happened
to me with an irreplaceable Toshiba remote.

== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 8:30 pm
From: thanatoid

David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in
news:4c929dd6$0$2393$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com:

> On 9/16/2010 8:15 AM thanatoid spake thus:

<snip>

>> WHAT? You did NOT do that when you removed all the screws?
>> I have not been reading the thread carefully ever since
>> you ignored my request for a photograph, but DUUH!
>>
>>> The amp appears to be fine; there's either a problem with
>>> the XLR mike input jack, or with the mike cable we were
>>> using. (Can't test because I have no XLR plugs.)
>>
>> WHERE are you (as in, forest, garage with NO tools, an
>> audio shop run by Scientologists who believe the e-meter
>> is the only piece of electronic test equipment anyone
>> needs) ????????
>>
>> SIGH.
>>
>> BTW, I have learned over the last 4 decades that it's
>> ALWAYS the cable (and if it's not, you **still** test any
>> cables FIRST before you do ANYTHING, including attempting
>> to open an audio box [when you should let your friends
>> open your canned food for you] let alone flooding an NG
>> with clueless posts for a week), and /had/ you posted like
>> a person with a clue, I would have told you to try another
>> cable - I know you don't have one, BUY one!
>
> Look, you little fuck

Is that the BEST you can do? C'mon! Work with me here!

> (and keep in mind that *you* were the
> first one in this thread to use profanity)

OMG! Profanity on the Usenet! My transgression is
unforgivable! Please have the motherfucking pigs come and
arrest me STAT!

> let me explain my situation for your little pea-brain to
> understand.

I have a HUGE head, I can never find a hat to fit me. And I
have an IQ of 134. Not THAT high, but odds /are/ it's higher
than yours. OTOH, head and brain size have nothing to do with
intelligence.

> I am not a professional electronics repairperson.

Neither am I.

> I don't
> maintain a repair shop, nor solicit repairs.

Neither do I.

> This is why I
> own no XLR connectors: normally I have absolutely no need
> for such things. I have no sound equipment, microphones,
> etc.

I used to sing (using the term loosely) and play guitar
(etc.) in bands, so I have a ton of XLR (and other)
connectors and cables, etc. I understand not everyone has
such items on site.

> This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a
> band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we
> tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed.

It's not a bad idea to test other people's
instruments/equipment before using them, let alone WHEN DOING
A GIG.

And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh?

> I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with
> it.

Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a
single XLR cable in the house?

Hmm. What kind of band?

> I'm 99.99% sure that the problem is outboard of the jack
> connections on the amp simply by doing the "touch the input
> connection and listen for hum" test. The amp responded
> admirably well to this test, so I'm certain it works.The
> problem, then, is obviously either the jack on the amp
> or somewhere in the microphone cable being used. There
> wasn't enough time to get another cable and test it.

No, of course not.

> So if you want to continue to berate me for some perceived
> slight against the propriety of this newsgroup, which after
> all is supposed to be a source of information for people
> seeking such, well then, go right ahead and be my guest.

I am not berating you, I understand why you posted your
question here, but you or someone you know DO have a digital
camera, you DO know how to use the internet, and you SHOULD
HAVE CHECKED THE CABLE before spending a week trying to open
a box you are not qualified to look inside of!

WHAT were you expecting to find, a soldered cable connection
/inside a sealed enclosure/ which just /decided/ to come
undone for no reason whatsoever?

And, BTW - an e-meter (q.v.) CAN be used to test cables, as I
realized after posting. But I waited, hoping for an
entertaining reply - and I was NOT disappointed! ;-)

--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid

== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 8:30 pm
From: thanatoid

David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in
news:4c929e4e$0$2393$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com:

> On 9/16/2010 8:06 AM thanatoid spake thus:

<snip>

>> Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal
>> for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better,
>> but that's another subject.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that (that you're feeling better, that
> is).

In a way, so am I, BION.

(For one thing, I /may/ have to think of another nick, although
something tells me you - and dozens of other friends I have made
on the Usenet over the years - might like to help me out with
that daunting task... 'Fuckbrain' is probably already taken, but
please feel free to suggest other suitable nicks!)

Anyway, it's not worth explaining depression to someone who
probably has little understanding of the ways of the human
brain, let alone of the mystifying intricacies of audio cable
construction.

--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid

== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 8:44 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 9/16/2010 8:30 PM thanatoid spake thus:

> David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in
> news:4c929dd6$0$2393$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com:
>
>> I am not a professional electronics repairperson.
>
> Neither am I.
>
>> I don't maintain a repair shop, nor solicit repairs.
>
> Neither do I.
>
>> This is why I own no XLR connectors: normally I have absolutely no
>> need for such things. I have no sound equipment, microphones, etc.
>
> I used to sing (using the term loosely) and play guitar
> (etc.) in bands, so I have a ton of XLR (and other)
> connectors and cables, etc. I understand not everyone has
> such items on site.

Good. Sound reinforcement was never my responsibility even when I was in
this band.

>> This one just landed in my lap. I used to be in a
>> band, the leader of which just recently died, and when we
>> tried to use this amp at a gig, it failed.
>
> It's not a bad idea to test other people's
> instruments/equipment before using them, let alone WHEN DOING
> A GIG.

The amp was not essential to the gig; we just wanted to use it to make
announcements during the performance, as it was also a memorial to the
founder of the band who had just died a week before. Since we were
playing in a relatively small room, we make do without.

> And there were NO other cables on the stage at the time, huh?

Nope. We're an acoustic band, generally play without any sound
reinforcement at all.

>> I offered to diagnose it and determine what was wrong with
>> it.
>
> Hmm. So you ALSO used to be in a band, and you don't have a
> single XLR cable in the house?

Nope. You see a problem with that?

> Hmm. What kind of band?

Eastern European and Balkan folk and popular (from a previous century)
music. Mostly totally obsolete music that most people haven't heard and
don't care about.

--
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with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 8:46 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

thanatoid wrote:
>
> David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in
> news:4c929e4e$0$2393$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com:
>
> > On 9/16/2010 8:06 AM thanatoid spake thus:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Not that clever, really, I was very depressed and suicidal
> >> for most of my life. Recently I have been feeling better,
> >> but that's another subject.
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear that (that you're feeling better, that
> > is).
>
> In a way, so am I, BION.
>
> (For one thing, I /may/ have to think of another nick, although
> something tells me you - and dozens of other friends I have made
> on the Usenet over the years - might like to help me out with
> that daunting task... 'Fuckbrain' is probably already taken, but
> please feel free to suggest other suitable nicks!)

'Dimbulb' is already taken on most of the sci.electronics groups.
OTOH, he has 90 sock puppets you could steal. ;-)

> Anyway, it's not worth explaining depression to someone who
> probably has little understanding of the ways of the human
> brain, let alone of the mystifying intricacies of audio cable
> construction.

The same goes for pain 24/7.

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 9:23 pm
From: "jbclem"

My BM-23 will PLAY a tape for a few seconds then stop. As it stops there is
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it will stop playing and I can hear the motor spinning, and after five or
ten seconds the high pitched signal will come on. Sometimes it won't play
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At the same time I notice the LCD counter is blank, no readout at all. The
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 16 2010 9:30 pm
From: "Michael Kennedy"

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>
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>In case the *general* rule for Usenet posting is unclear to you,
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