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* Any Windoze experts on here ? Bit OT ... - 6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cffb93376f721ce8?hl=en
* ACTRESS HOT VIDEOS AND NUDE PICTURES HERE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3ce95c61698d84a2?hl=en
* problems with my Adcom CD player - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/d0309f8834e2db93?hl=en
* The common ThinkPad powerup problem - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9730825a5202a5fd?hl=en
* Cordless phone woes - 10 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/7e33309faf5ba341?hl=en
* Looking For Usable Multimeter - Cheap - 6 messages, 6 authors
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TOPIC: Any Windoze experts on here ? Bit OT ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cffb93376f721ce8?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 20 2011 9:19 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 2/19/2011 6:13 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:

> "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ijp0kl$j5l$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Do you notice any slowdown when this occurs?
>>
>> I have a similar "problem" under W2K. Windows creates a virtual
>> memory swap file when started, and expands it as needed.
>> Unfortunately, the expanding swap file causes the machine to slow
>> down, and a restart is eventually required. (This can take a few
>> days to a week or more, depending on how "hard" you push the OS. I
>> tend to have a lot of apps and files open at once, so I have to
>> restart as often as every four or five days.)
>
> Yes, it does slow down. I have the Windoze memory usage widget running, and
> you can see the usage creeping up over a couple of days or so, to the point
> where it reaches 90+ %, at which point, the machine is crawling, and having
> difficulty having multiple programs open at once.

Meaning no disrespect here, but are you sure it's *memory* that's
getting depleted here? I've got Win2K, and keep the Task Manager on my
taskbar. It indicates CPU usage %, not memory, at least if you're
talking about the visible indicator it shows onscreen. (Of course, it
also shows memory usage for each task as well as CPU usage.)

--
The phrase "jump the shark" itself jumped the shark about a decade ago.

- Usenet

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 3:36 am
From: Bob Villa

On Feb 19, 11:28 am, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Pretty bog standard machine here. AMD Athlon 64 processor, 2GB of single
> channel DDR 160MHz memory, couple of hard drives etc. Running Windoze 7
> Ultimate 64 bit (not my choice, put on there by my lad, when he built the
> machine).
>
> In all general respects, it works just fine. But it has this really annoying
> thing of clogging up its memory over a few days. Normally, this machine is
> never turned off, as was also the case with its predecessor, which ran all
> sorts of Windoze versions over the years that I used it, ending with XP Pro.
> There was never any problem with memory clogging on that machine. This one,
> however, starts off, after a clean boot, showing about 35% memory in use at
> idle. There are a few 'background' progs running, such as a clock
> synchronizer and a weather monitor, and Thunderbird as a mail client, anti
> virus etc, so I guess that 35% is reasonable. But over the course of a few
> days, the amount in use creeps up and up until you reach around 90% usage
> with the same background progs running, and it otherwise idling. I have
> tried a number of memory 'cleaner' programs and the best I have found to
> date is one called simply "CleanMem". It claims to do a genuine job of
> clearing unused crap out of the memory that's been left behind, unlike other
> cleaners which it says work by fooling the system in some way by filling the
> memory with zeros or some such. I'm not really au fait enough with the
> workings of computers to understand just what it was saying, but suffice to
> say that it does seem to work better than the others I've tried. But even
> that one seems unable to recover the situation beyond about 75% usage. The
> only way to get the memory back, and thus recover the speed of the machine,
> is to do a "Restart", which is a royal pain in the arse.
>
> So, is this just a poor characteristic of 7 that previous versions of
> Windoze didn't suffer from ? Does anyone else have a similar problem, or
> have found a way to resolve it ? Not looking for a long drawn-out discussion
> on this - I can live with it. Just interested to see if anyone better
> qualified at this sort of thing than me, has a definitive answer.
>
> Arfa

You would think the biggest bottle-neck would be your ram at 160Mhz?
(166 for DDR single-channel). You would run great using XP or Win2K.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 4:45 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> I have never had any real problems with Windows. I'm a fairly heavy user
> compared to Joe Average, and have, over the years, had many varied and
> exotic applications running on Windows machines with OS's from Win 3.1
> right up to Win 7. I know that it's not a very fashionable or approved
position
> to declare, but I actually quite like the Windows concept on the whole,
and
> would never indulge in Gates-bashing. I actually think that Windows has,
> over the years, done more to expand the world of personal computing, and
> to 'standardise' application writing, than any other OS or platform.

I've never had major problems with Windows, either -- and a late friend of
mine told me how the Macintosh OS simply fell apart on his machine and
required re-installation. * But...

Microsoft has never done enough to assure that third-party Windows
applications are reliable and compatible. Worse, Microsoft is in the process
of destroying its own applications, by letting the programmers design
them -- a very, very, very bad idea. (I'd heard this rumor for some time,
and it was confirmed in a magazine article about Ray Ozzie, whom Microsoft
hired a few years ago to fix things up. Steve Ballmer has apparently blocked
most of his attempts to "do things right".)

Microsoft's fundamental problem is that it has never understood that the
interaction between the user and the operating system (or applications) is
/the/ most-important thing.

I have no intention of ever switching to the Macintosh, if only because
Apple is even worse than Microsoft -- Apple lies through its teeth.

* In truth, this happened to me six years ago. Windows would run, but
behaved very strangely. I had to re-install Windows and the applications. I
don't know what caused this. Since then, I've had no problems.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:18 am
From: Meat Plow

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:36:37 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>> No problems, but if you want reliability, I suggest Ubuntu or one of
>> the other Linux distributions. If you're running a fairly basic set of
>> applications (Web, email, word processor, spreadsheet, etc), then Linux
>> will be a suitable replacement.
>
> That's the catch, of course. Operating systems other than Windows or
> Macintosh don't have fancy software written for them.

What do you consider fancy? I use Cinelerra a non-linear video editing
suite that I consider as fancy and powerful as Adobie Premier, Sony Vegas,
or Final Cut.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:29 am
From: Jeffrey Angus

On 2/21/2011 11:18 AM, Meat Plow wrote:
> What do you consider fancy?

By "fancy" most people mean, you're using software
they've seen on sale at Staples or Best Buy.

Jeff

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:30 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

>> That's the catch, of course. Operating systems other than Windows
>> or Macintosh don't have fancy software written for them.

> What do you consider fancy? I use Cinelerra, a non-linear video
> editing suite that I consider as fancy and powerful as Adobie
> Premier, Sony Vegas, or Final Cut.

Can't argue with that. I'd consider Photoshop or Ventura Publisher to be
"fancy" software.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 4:23 am
From: surya maha

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TOPIC: problems with my Adcom CD player
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 4:42 am
From: "N_Cook"

Shaun <rowl@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:yOh8p.17738$D94.1575@newsfe20.iad...
>
> "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> news:4673m6prr0ls8tlmj1kaaa2rid3sbapos7@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:13:20 -0600, "Shaun" <rowl@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I have a used ADCOM GCD-700 5 disk CD player that was given to me and it
> >>is
> >>overly sensitive to vibrations, bumps and slight scratches on the CDs.
> >>I've
> >>mounted it on vibration absorbing rubber and this has greatly impoved
its
> >>bump and vibration sensitivity, but it is still very sensitive to the
> >>slightest mark or scratch on cds. How can I cure this.
> >
> >
> > First, clean out any crud from the laser head assembly. If that
> > doesn't improve things, replace it. That's a 1997 vintage machine so
> > parts may be tricky to find... Oh, too easy:
> > <http://www.adcomparts.com/part.php?item=46001400>
> > However, I don't think it's worth $50 to fix something that old.
> >
> > More:
> > <http://www.fixya.com/support/p134391-adcom_gcd_700_5_disc_cd_changer>
> > <http://www.fixya.com/support/t648590-adcom_gcd_700_tracking_problems>
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> > 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> >
>
> Thanks for the links, I'll probably order a new laser head for it, but
first
> I'll lake it apart and clean the lenses.
>
> Shaun
>
>

Then after cleaning and before ditching. Find the "power pot" ,measure
resistance with a DVM , "both ways" in case of a difference, so you can get
back to that value. Change the value , no more than 5 percent, to see if it
improves error proneness

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TOPIC: The common ThinkPad powerup problem
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:16 am
From: all2001@spambog.com (Wolfgang Allinger)

On 20 Feb 11 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article
<reinhard.zwirner@t-online.de> (Reinhard Zwirner) wrote:

>Wolfgang Allinger schrieb:
>> On 19 Feb 11 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article
>> <reinhard.zwirner@t-online.de> (Reinhard Zwirner) wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of notebook schematics can be found here:
>>>
>>> <http://www.reepair.net/en/forumdisplay.php/30-Laptop-Schematics>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> Not really :( Anyhow THX
>>
>> This Account Has Been Suspended

>Hhm - still works here <wonder>.

Heute gehts bei mir auch wieder.

Today it works again for me.
They had a little trouble with .net accounts.

Saludos Wolfgang

--
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TOPIC: Cordless phone woes
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:14 am
From: Smitty Two

I have a cordless phone / answering machine system at home that's
started giving trouble of late. It's a Panasonic, model KX-TG5433. 5.8
gHz. It came with 3 handsets, which I like because I can always find one
of them and at least one always has a full battery charge. I'd guess
it's about 5-8 years old.

Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably communicating with
the base. I often can't get a dialtone to call out, nor answer an
incoming call. Error message sometimes comes up on the handset display,
saying I'm out of range.

I know I can buy a new phone, but I don't mind tinkering with this one
if there's a chance I can resurrect it. I've run into things like this
before: electronic car keys not communicating with the car lock, TV
remotes not communicating with the TV, etc. Is this a matter of
frequency drift as components age?

TIA for any useful feedback.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:33 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably
> communicating with the base. I often can't get a dialtone
> to call out, nor answer an incoming call. Error message
> sometimes comes up on the handset display, saying I'm
> out of range.

Well, there's your problem.

The most-likely cause is that the output of the base station is down. Make
sure its antenna isn't dirty (!!!) or broken, and position the base station
where the handsets can easily "see" it (RF-wise).

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:49 am
From: "WW"

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:iju455$udj$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably
>> communicating with the base. I often can't get a dialtone
>> to call out, nor answer an incoming call. Error message
>> sometimes comes up on the handset display, saying I'm
>> out of range.
>
> Well, there's your problem.
>
> The most-likely cause is that the output of the base station is down. Make
> sure its antenna isn't dirty (!!!) or broken, and position the base
> station
> where the handsets can easily "see" it (RF-wise).
>
>Don't the hand sets have batteries? Have you checked them ? Ours have that
>problem when it needs recharge or battery bad. WW

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:56 am
From: "Dave Plowman (News)"

In article <prestwhich-30B290.08142021022011@mx02.eternal-september.org>,
Smitty Two <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have a cordless phone / answering machine system at home that's
> started giving trouble of late. It's a Panasonic, model KX-TG5433. 5.8
> gHz. It came with 3 handsets, which I like because I can always find one
> of them and at least one always has a full battery charge. I'd guess
> it's about 5-8 years old.

> Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably communicating with
> the base. I often can't get a dialtone to call out, nor answer an
> incoming call. Error message sometimes comes up on the handset display,
> saying I'm out of range.

First thing I'd check is the batteries. 8 years is a very good life for
rechargeable types. Swap from the good handset to a faulty one to prove
this hypothesis.

--
*He has Van Gogh's ear for music.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:05 am
From: Smitty Two

In article <iju455$udj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably
> > communicating with the base. I often can't get a dialtone
> > to call out, nor answer an incoming call. Error message
> > sometimes comes up on the handset display, saying I'm
> > out of range.
>
> Well, there's your problem.
>
> The most-likely cause is that the output of the base station is down. Make
> sure its antenna isn't dirty (!!!) or broken, and position the base station
> where the handsets can easily "see" it (RF-wise).

Well, I started to hammer out a chiding reply to what I interpreted as
your overly-simplistic suggestions. I was getting the "out of range"
message or other non-operative condition even when I was standing right
next to the base.

But just to humor you, I wiped a layer of dust off the 4" long
plastic-covered base antenna and rotated it to an upright position. I'm
sure it's completely unrelated, but my intermittent issues are currently
in remission. Can RF really not punch through a bit of dust?

To those who suggested battery issues, agree that I'm pushing lifespan
but they seem to be charging up fully and giving me good battery charge
life still. FWIW, they're Ni-MH.

Thank you.

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:17 am
From: greenpjs@neo.rr.com

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:05:15 -0800, Smitty Two
>
>But just to humor you, I wiped a layer of dust off the 4" long
>plastic-covered base antenna and rotated it to an upright position. I'm
>sure it's completely unrelated, but my intermittent issues are currently
>in remission. Can RF really not punch through a bit of dust?
>
I doubt the dust affects it, but rotating it to an upright position
will. And, if there is a loose connection, perhaps rotating it fixed
that, too.

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:24 am
From: "Dave Plowman (News)"

In article <prestwhich-E63D23.10051521022011@mx02.eternal-september.org>,
Smitty Two <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:
> To those who suggested battery issues, agree that I'm pushing lifespan
> but they seem to be charging up fully and giving me good battery charge
> life still. FWIW, they're Ni-MH.

Thought you said two of the handsets no longer worked reliably - so how
can you be sure the battery life is normal?

--
*It's this dirty because I washed it with your wife's knickers*

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:29 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

>> The most-likely cause is that the output of the base
>> station is down. Make sure its antenna isn't dirty (!!!)
>> or broken, and position the base station where the
>> handsets can easily "see" it (RF-wise).

> Well, I started to hammer out a chiding reply to what I
> interpreted as your overly-simplistic suggestions. I was
> getting the "out of range" message or other non-operative
> condition even when I was standing right next to the base.

> But just to humor you, I wiped a layer of dust off the 4"
> plastic-covered base antenna and rotated it to an upright
> position. I'm sure it's completely unrelated, but my intermittent
> issues are currently in remission. Can RF really not punch
> through a bit of dust?

If the dust is conductive (and some is), it might conceivably have an
effect -- "It couldn't hurt!" to clean the antenna. But I suspect it was
mostly that the antenna was misadjusted, or possibly loose.

It usually makes sense to start with the obvious. If you're "out of range"
on /two/ (or more) handsets, that suggests low output from the base station,
not defective handsets. And the fact they operate at all -- and well enough
to display an "out of range" message is likewise suggestive.

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:40 am
From: PeterD

On 2/21/2011 1:05 PM, Smitty Two wrote:
>
> But just to humor you, I wiped a layer of dust off the 4" long
> plastic-covered base antenna and rotated it to an upright position. I'm
> sure it's completely unrelated, but my intermittent issues are currently
> in remission. Can RF really not punch through a bit of dust?
>
> To those who suggested battery issues, agree that I'm pushing lifespan
> but they seem to be charging up fully and giving me good battery charge
> life still. FWIW, they're Ni-MH.
>
> Thank you.

Well, perhaps not the dust, but consider that there may have been some
oxidization on the 'swivel' part which got cleaned up when you swiveled
it. The end result may well have been a better connection, and more signal.

--
I'm never going to grow up.

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 10:48 am
From: D Yuniskis

On 2/21/2011 9:56 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article<prestwhich-30B290.08142021022011@mx02.eternal-september.org>,
> Smitty Two<prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I have a cordless phone / answering machine system at home that's
>> started giving trouble of late. It's a Panasonic, model KX-TG5433. 5.8
>> gHz. It came with 3 handsets, which I like because I can always find one
>> of them and at least one always has a full battery charge. I'd guess
>> it's about 5-8 years old.
>
>> Problem is, two of the handsets have stopped reliably communicating with
>> the base. I often can't get a dialtone to call out, nor answer an
>> incoming call. Error message sometimes comes up on the handset display,
>> saying I'm out of range.
>
> First thing I'd check is the batteries. 8 years is a very good life for
> rechargeable types. Swap from the good handset to a faulty one to prove
> this hypothesis.

+1

And, if each handset tends to be charged in a *particular*
charging base, try changing those as well (i.e., charge
handset #1 in cradle #2, etc.). We have four interchangeable
handsets that routinely get circulated among the 4 charging
stations (just as a consequence of our usage patterns).
I rarely see a *particular* handset giving me problems.

I've found many mysterious cordless phone problems
are battery related (low state of charge, etc.). The
phones themselves tend to be pretty lousy at reporting
their real "state".

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:16 am
From: "(PeteCresswell)"

I've got a Micronta that's getting weird on me. Thing must be
30 years old, but it always did what little I needed of it:

- Checking automobile battery voltages

- Checking various other batteries' voltages

- Looking for shorts

Can anybody recommend a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and
a leg?

I'm thinking hardware-store quality is going tb adequate, but
don't know the ins and outs.
--
PeteCresswell

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:27 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

Harbor Freight has a digital meter for $3 -- but I don't know how sturdy it
is.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:33 am
From: GS

On Feb 21, 2:16 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> I've got a Micronta that's getting weird on me.   Thing must be
> 30 years old, but it always did what little I needed of it:
>
> - Checking automobile battery voltages
>
> - Checking various other batteries' voltages
>
> - Looking for shorts
>
> Can anybody recommend a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and
> a leg?
>
> I'm thinking hardware-store quality is going tb adequate, but
> don't know the ins and outs.
> --
> PeteCresswell

Try Harbor Freight.

greg

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:52 am
From: Bob Villa

On Feb 21, 1:27 pm, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Harbor Freight has a digital meter for $3 -- but I don't know how sturdy it
> is.

I have it (among others)...it'll get you by.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:48 am
From: Rich Webb

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:16:53 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:

>I've got a Micronta that's getting weird on me. Thing must be
>30 years old, but it always did what little I needed of it:
>
>- Checking automobile battery voltages
>
>- Checking various other batteries' voltages
>
>- Looking for shorts
>
>
>Can anybody recommend a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and
>a leg?
>
>I'm thinking hardware-store quality is going tb adequate, but
>don't know the ins and outs.

The little US$27 (at Lowes) Extech model DM110 is a nice "tool bag"
meter. Small, handles the basic functions, includes a case. Downside is
no backlight and the leads are permanently attached.

In general: Autoranging is nice but increases the time between probing
something and getting a stable reading. Autoranging plus a "range hold"
function is a nice compromise. Having a continuity beeper is handy for
checking for shorts/opens without having to keep looking back at the
meter. Backlighted displays are nice. Don't get too wrapped up in
"counts"; the world is mostly three significant figures, so 0-1999 is
okay for the vast majority of situations for a general-purpose meter.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 21 2011 12:40 pm
From: Sjouke Burry

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> I've got a Micronta that's getting weird on me. Thing must be
> 30 years old, but it always did what little I needed of it:
>
> - Checking automobile battery voltages
>
> - Checking various other batteries' voltages
>
> - Looking for shorts
>
>
> Can anybody recommend a replacement that doesn't cost an arm and
> a leg?
>
> I'm thinking hardware-store quality is going tb adequate, but
> don't know the ins and outs

(picture mode)google accu tester

300000 hits.

> http://www.winparts.nl/534/werkplaats/garage-gereedschap/absaar-acculader/0106747

The above link shows the one our local gasstation uses.

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