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TOPIC: Dead Sony KV-T25SZ8 TV
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 8:41 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> The set's inability to show any signs of working circuits, with
> the HOT removed (or failed), is normal for most TVs made
> within about the last 25 years.

> Other than a Standby voltage supply, most TVs won't operate
> (even partially) without a functioning horiz scan/sweep circuit,
> as in general, several voltage supplies are derived from the IHVT
> integrated high voltage transformer (some refer to as flyback or
> other terms).

My Sony KV-1920, purchased ca. 1974, was one of the first TVs with a
switching power supply. When the supply failed in the early 80s, a guy from
Sony warned me not to try to fix it myself. "If you don't catch all the bad
parts the first time, some of the replacement parts might fail. It's best to
have a trained tech look at it." It cost me around $75 (which seemed a lot,
then) but the set was properly repaired and worked another 15 years.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 8:47 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:29:09 -0700, Stroonz wrote:

> On Mar 14, 8:01 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> ** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.
>>
>>
> ******** Yes, but those are called shorted.
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 8:01 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> ** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.
>>
>>
> ******** She didn't ask about all HOT drive circuits, she asked about
> HERS.
>
>
>
>> ** Why don't you go and get fucked ?
>>
>> ......  Phil
>
> Now is that nice?

You can safely ignore Phil's posts. Most do because of his extreme mood
swings and personality disorder.

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 2:55 pm
From: kreed

On Mar 15, 11:00 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
> On 15/03/2011 11:35 PM, kreed wrote:
>
>
>
> > The thing that probably killed it was that I was using it to charge up
> > about 5 SLA batteries, one after the other, and it might not have been
> > designed to be charging for this length of time continuously. once the
> > 5th battery was connected - smoke time.
>
> Still, I'd have expected it to have reached thermal equilibrium long
> before even the first battery was fully charged. It shouldn't get any
> hotter from subsequent chargings.
>
> Sylvia.

You are probably right, but this was the only change to "normal" usage
I can think of before it failed

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 3:20 pm
From: Stroonz

On Mar 15, 11:47 am, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> You can safely ignore Phil's posts. Most do because of his extreme mood
> swings and personality disorder.
>
> --

On a hunch, I checked the garbage AOL email addy that I use to
register for public forums, and there (amongst the ton of spam emails)
were more than a couple of emails offering the same advice. But I'm
not completely convinced he has mood swings or a personality disorder;
I suspect he's a typical internet bully who can only demonstrate
bravery from behind the security of a keyboard. If someone were to
act like that in real life, you go up to them, grab them by the
throat, and watch them fill their Pampers. Still, I've often gotten a
good laugh from his posts.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 4:27 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Stroonz is a CUNT "

I suspect he's a typical internet bully ..

** Hey - pal.

Blind Freddy can see that YOU are bullying me.

Cos you are a psychotic control freak.

.... Phil

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 5:31 pm
From: Sylvia Else

On 16/03/2011 8:55 AM, kreed wrote:
> On Mar 15, 11:00 pm, Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
>> On 15/03/2011 11:35 PM, kreed wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The thing that probably killed it was that I was using it to charge up
>>> about 5 SLA batteries, one after the other, and it might not have been
>>> designed to be charging for this length of time continuously. once the
>>> 5th battery was connected - smoke time.
>>
>> Still, I'd have expected it to have reached thermal equilibrium long
>> before even the first battery was fully charged. It shouldn't get any
>> hotter from subsequent chargings.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> You are probably right, but this was the only change to "normal" usage
> I can think of before it failed

Coincidence - there's probably a yet to be discovered perverse law of
nature that says that a machine is most likely to fail shortly after a
totally irrelevant change in the way it is used.

Sylvia.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 5:37 pm
From: Sylvia Else

On 16/03/2011 2:19 AM, Wild_Bill wrote:
> The set's inability to show any signs of working circuits, with the HOT
> (transistor) removed (or failed), is normal for most TVs made within
> about the last 25 years.
>
> Other than a Standby voltage supply, most TVs won't operate (even
> partially) without a functioning horiz scan/sweep circuit, as in
> general, several voltage supplies are derived from the IHVT integrated
> high voltage transformer (some refer to as flyback or other terms).

Well, that's possible, though as I've indicated, my TV wouldn't even
enter standby mode.

I suppose it's conceivable that since it failed in operation, it always
tries to power up in that mode, and that the processor won't allow entry
to standby mode unless everything's working. That would seem a bit
perverse, but who knows?

Sylvia.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 6:29 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> Coincidence - there's probably a yet to be discovered
> perverse law of nature that says that a machine is most
> likely to fail shortly after a totally irrelevant change in the
> way it is used.

Here's another one... "A machine is most likely to irreversibly fail shortly
after you've gone to a great deal of trouble to fix it."

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TOPIC: Crate BV150H
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 8:54 am
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:56:45 +0000, N_Cook wrote:

> What sort of quiescent mains draw current (240V land) for 6x good 6L6
> and remainder of the amp , if the bias has not been messed around with ?

Fuse is 3A SB for 230V. I'd expect less than 1 amp idle. Didn't you ask
about this amp back in 2009?

--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:21 am
From: "N_Cook"

Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2011.03.15.15.53.57@lmao.lol.lol...
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:56:45 +0000, N_Cook wrote:
>
> > What sort of quiescent mains draw current (240V land) for 6x good 6L6
> > and remainder of the amp , if the bias has not been messed around with ?
>
> Fuse is 3A SB for 230V. I'd expect less than 1 amp idle. Didn't you ask
> about this amp back in 2009?
>
>
>
> --
> Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

That was "lighthouse" neon 47K dropper for 110V used in uk on 240V. Same
with this one needing the mains switch changing , charred and part melted sw
cover this one but holding up at 47K.
This one been run too long with insufficient bias and run away red valves.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:33 am
From: boardjunkie1

On Mar 15, 10:56 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> What sort of quiescent mains draw current (240V land) for 6x good 6L6 and
> remainder of the amp , if the bias has not been messed around with ?

Check plate current directly. Its not a great idea to ballpark bias by
mains current...

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 8:31 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"bored junkie"

Check plate current directly. Its not a great idea to ballpark bias by
mains current...

** Wrong - as always.

.... Phil

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:09 pm
From: boardjunkie1

On Mar 15, 11:31 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> "bored junkie"
>
> Check plate current directly. Its not a great idea to ballpark bias by
> mains current...
>
> ** Wrong  -  as always.
>
> ....  Phil

Horseshit. You lose....again.....

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:17 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"bored junkies are all losers "

Check plate current directly. Its not a great idea to ballpark bias by
mains current...

** Wrong - as always.

.... Phil

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TOPIC: Looking for 6" paper edge speaker
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:30 am
From: boardjunkie1

On Mar 15, 2:27 am, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> "bored junkie"
>
> >I need a bunch of 6" or 6.5" cheap-ish quality speakers. They need to
> > be "extended range" paper edge types, not foam edge low freq drivers.
> > The application will be in miniature 4-12 style guitar spkr cabinets.
> > There are spkrs in them now, but they are more of a woofer style with
> > rolled cloth edge and they don't sound so hot for guitar use.
>
>  ** Has Bored Junkie hit a new low in tediousness here ?
>
> .....  Phil

Phallison obviously has idle hands......

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 9:50 am
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:8u95sgF4p3U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Gareth Magennis"
>
>
> ** Bullshit stats YOU INVENTED are not engineering facts !!
>
> YOU GOD ALMIGHTY KNOW NOTHING POMMY CUNT
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Those same Port Jackson sharks would eat YOU for breakfast !!
>
>

>
************* hey LooK pHILeeP -

>>> ** I cAn do asTeRiskS and CAPItalS and eXClamaTION MARKS TOO !!! <<<<
>>> ***

** <> ***

Never mind Gareth. Clearly he's either pissed or off his barmy head again,
so with any luck, the dopey twat will stagger to the edge of the harbour and
fall in himself, to be gobbled up by those naughty sharks ... :-)

Arfa

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 2:49 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Arfa Daily wrote:
>
> "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:8u95sgF4p3U1@mid.individual.net...
> >
> > "Gareth Magennis"
> >
> >
> > ** Bullshit stats YOU INVENTED are not engineering facts !!
> >
> > YOU GOD ALMIGHTY KNOW NOTHING POMMY CUNT
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > Those same Port Jackson sharks would eat YOU for breakfast !!
> >
> >
>
> >
> ************* hey LooK pHILeeP -
>
> >>> ** I cAn do asTeRiskS and CAPItalS and eXClamaTION MARKS TOO !!! <<<<
> >>> ***
>
> ** <> ***
>
> Never mind Gareth. Clearly he's either pissed or off his barmy head again,
> so with any luck, the dopey twat will stagger to the edge of the harbour and
> fall in himself, to be gobbled up by those naughty sharks ... :-)

Or he'll run into an angry bunch of sheep, in no mood for his sexual
advances...

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 6:41 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:GuGdnWIqArZxQ-LQnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>
>> "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:8u95sgF4p3U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >
>> > "Gareth Magennis"
>> >
>> >
>> > ** Bullshit stats YOU INVENTED are not engineering facts !!
>> >
>> > YOU GOD ALMIGHTY KNOW NOTHING POMMY CUNT
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > Those same Port Jackson sharks would eat YOU for breakfast !!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >
>> ************* hey LooK pHILeeP -
>>
>> >>> ** I cAn do asTeRiskS and CAPItalS and eXClamaTION MARKS TOO !!!
>> >>> <<<<
>> >>> ***
>>
>> ** <> ***
>>
>> Never mind Gareth. Clearly he's either pissed or off his barmy head
>> again,
>> so with any luck, the dopey twat will stagger to the edge of the harbour
>> and
>> fall in himself, to be gobbled up by those naughty sharks ... :-)
>
>
> Or he'll run into an angry bunch of sheep, in no mood for his sexual
> advances...
>

Or perhaps he'll get his head stomped on by an irate kangaroo ...

Arfa
> --
> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-AidT on it, because it's
> Teflon coated.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 15 2011 2:20 pm
From: GamerGirl

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> "Jen Zatoth" <shadowk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
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> >you say it like it's a bad thing, matey ;)
>
> YO! Zatoth!

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