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Today's topics:

* Marshall JCM 2000, 1998 - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3338dc78a01d3b6d?hl=en
* Dead Sony KV-T25SZ8 TV - 13 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a211bd1fd48660f2?hl=en
* Spook kills his son by repeatedly throwing on ground and stuffing in trash
bin afterwards - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c412ad2d3c7b1cfb?hl=en
* DJ-Tech S-1 ... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ee3f29717f1b06b5?hl=en
* Pig smacks his bitch up - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cc9abb3fcc8f7d04?hl=en
* Looking for 6" paper edge speaker - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/0855e1f20eb0f586?hl=en

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TOPIC: Marshall JCM 2000, 1998
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3338dc78a01d3b6d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 4:05 pm
From: "Gareth Magennis"


"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:8u7jc5Fd98U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "N_Cook"
>>
>> Marshall replacement �46 , same duff construction as this one?
>>
>
> ** Of course.
>
> Only way to fix the problem is to find someone willing to rewind the
> original transformer with high temp enamel wire - ie 180C rate instead of
> the 120C rated stuff used by Dagnall.
>
> Or you could fit a small fan blowing on the tranny....
>
>
> ..... Phil
>


I'll go with Arfa's suggestion.
Pay the �46 and when it breaks in 13 years time, we can then re-assess the
situation.

Though the small fan idea is a good one IMHO. Might extend that period to
26 years or more.


Gareth.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 5:18 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Gareth Magennis"
"Phil Allison"
>
>> "Nutcase Kook"
>>>
>>> Marshall replacement �46 , same duff construction as this one?
>>>
>>
>> ** Of course.
>>
>> Only way to fix the problem is to find someone willing to rewind the
>> original transformer with high temp enamel wire - ie 180C rate instead of
>> the 120C rated stuff used by Dagnall.
>>
>> Or you could fit a small fan blowing on the tranny....
>
>
> I'll go with Arfa's suggestion.

** Makes you as big a fucking halfwit as he is.


> Pay the �46 and when it breaks in 13 years time,

** HUH ???

What sort of madness makes do you think the problem has a 13 year delay
built in ??????

That POS tranny can fail in the first few hours of use !!!

Only has to overheat enough to soften the enamel on the wire - and overheat
it surely will cos it is not correctly sized ( in terms of VA rating) for
the job it has to do.

..... Phil

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:47 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:8u7pifFntgU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Gareth Magennis"
> "Phil Allison"
>>
>>> "Nutcase Kook"
>>>>
>>>> Marshall replacement �46 , same duff construction as this one?
>>>>
>>>
>>> ** Of course.
>>>
>>> Only way to fix the problem is to find someone willing to rewind the
>>> original transformer with high temp enamel wire - ie 180C rate instead
>>> of the 120C rated stuff used by Dagnall.
>>>
>>> Or you could fit a small fan blowing on the tranny....
>>
>>
>> I'll go with Arfa's suggestion.
>
> ** Makes you as big a fucking halfwit as he is.

I wonder what that makes you then, Philip ? Actually, don't answer that. We
all already know that you are a half-baked twat ... :-)

Arfa

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 7:25 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Arfa Daily"


** Please come to Sydney - Arfa.

Just buy a one way ticket, cos that is all you will need.

Go straight to Circular Quay from Mascot airport and then into any pub with
your stupid, whiny pommy voice and tell everyone there all your brilliant
thoughts.

The sharks in Sydney harbour will be picking your bones by nightfall.

..... Phil

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TOPIC: Dead Sony KV-T25SZ8 TV
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a211bd1fd48660f2?hl=en
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 4:21 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Clifford Heath"
Phil Allison wrote:
>
>> ** You need a " Power Transistor Tester" - published as a full
>> construction
>
> Thanks.
>
>> I would post the schem on ABSE, but like so many others I no longer have
>> access to the site.
>
> You mean you have no access to ABSE? Spend $US3.95 at www.teranews.com and
> get free lifetime access to all the binary groups, limited to 50MB/day.


** Not worth a hoot to me for posting schems or pics unless everyone has the
same.

..... Phil


== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 4:33 pm
From: b


Sony tvs are notorious for being picky about spares. I dislike them
for that reason, as they usually get repair estimates rejected due to
cost grounds.And that's assuming spares availability...

I recently dumped a 25" CRT set (FE2 chassis I think) - shorted
horizontal output stage. Common fault with the chassis - the
transformer fails, killing the line o/p transistor and damages the
micro. Unless you replace the lot in one go, with genuine sony bits,
you're back to square one... plus the uPc is NLA and an awkward smd
type. Set was BER, a shame considering it was barely 8 years old.
-B


== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 5:01 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Stroonz is a Shithead "
>
> "Phil Allison"
>
>> There is an inbuilt resistor from B to E in nearly all HOTs of 20 ohms or
>> less.
>
> ******Bollocks.
>
> Most horiz output internal resistors are between 25 and 50 ohms.

** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.

You need to get out more.


> Besides, 20 ohms isn't 5.7ohms.


** The OP corrected her error in the next post - which you have not
bothered to even read.

The 5.7 ohms was measured from C to B.

No clue was given about the use of in or out of circuit testing.


> In circuit, E to B reads an ohm or
> under as the secondary of the horiz driver transformer is directly
> across it..

** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.


>> ** Probably normal.
>
> **** More likely a stupid answer.


** Why don't you go and get fucked ?


...... Phil


== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:29 pm
From: Stroonz


On Mar 14, 8:01 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> ** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.
>

******** Yes, but those are called shorted.

On Mar 14, 8:01 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> ** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.
>

******** She didn't ask about all HOT drive circuits, she asked about
HERS.

> ** Why don't you go and get fucked ?
>
> ......  Phil

Now is that nice?

== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:38 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Stroonz is a SHITHEAD "
>
>
> Most horiz output internal resistors are between 25 and 50 ohms.

** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.

You need to get out more.


> Besides, 20 ohms isn't 5.7ohms.


** The OP corrected her error in the next post - which like a total
shithead you have not bothered to even read.

The 5.7 ohms was actually measured from C to B.

And the bitch gave no clue about the use of in or out of circuit testing.

> In circuit, E to B reads an ohm or
> under as the secondary of the horiz driver transformer is directly
> across it..

** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.

Many have a low value R in series with the base with a diode across it.


** Why don't you go fuck a dead donkey ?

...... Phil

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:55 pm
From: kreed


On Mar 15, 11:38 am, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> "Stroonz is a SHITHEAD  "
>
>
>
> > Most horiz output internal resistors are between 25 and 50 ohms.
>
> ** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.
>
>     You need to get out more.
>
> > Besides, 20 ohms isn't 5.7ohms.
>
> ** The OP corrected her error in the next post  -  which like a total
> shithead you have not bothered to even read.
>
>  The 5.7 ohms was actually measured from C to B.
>
>  And the bitch gave no clue about the use of in or out of circuit testing.
>
> > In circuit, E to B reads an ohm or
> > under as the secondary of the horiz driver transformer is directly
> > across it..
>
> ** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.
>
>  Many have a low value R in series with the base with a diode across it.
>
> ** Why don't you go fuck a dead donkey ?


Im very annoyed now, I was sipping coffee when I read that, and some
got sprayed from laughing ;)


>
> ......  Phil

== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:58 pm
From: Stroonz


On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au>blathered:

> ** The OP corrected her error in the next post  -  which like a total
> shithead you have not bothered to even read.


******* Doesn't matter if she corrected it or not. You were INCORRECT
when you believed a 5.7 ohm E to B reading was normal in HER SONY.

On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au>blathered:
** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.

Yes, and they were shorted. OTOH, if you can cite a transistor that
was actually used as a horiz output that has an emitter-base resistor
of less than 20 ohms, I'll happily concede.

On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> droned:

>  The 5.7 ohms was actually measured from C to B.


******** Read above ^


On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>  And the bitch gave no clue about the use of in or out of circuit testing.

******** We don't know if she's a bitch or not. She might be quiet
pleasant.....


On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> ** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.
>

No one said all HOT drive circuits are like that. But again, she
wasn't interested in every conceivable version of the drive circuit,
she was interested in HER Sony. Her Sony doesn't have a "low value
resistor in series with the base". If you don't know what you're
talking about or can't offer correct specific information, you really
should pipe down, or at least qualify your opinions as just that.


On Mar 14, 9:38 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> ** Why don't you go fuck a dead donkey ?
>
> ......  Phil

Common Phil, where does one find a dead donkey, even if one was so
inclined to be intimate with it. You may not be the smartest guy on
the web, but you are a riot!!!


== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 7:02 pm
From: Stroonz


On Mar 14, 9:58 pm, Stroonz <str00...@aol.com> wrote:

Oh, and the quiet above is a typo: reverse the "e" and "t"


== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 7:08 pm
From: "Phil Allison"


"Stroonz is a PSYCHOTIC SHITHEAD "
>
>
> Most horiz output internal resistors are between 25 and 50 ohms.

** I have seen them with 20 ohms and less.

You need to get out of that asylum more.


> Besides, 20 ohms isn't 5.7ohms.


** The OP corrected her error in the next post - which like a total
shithead you have not bothered to even read.

The 5.7 ohms was actually measured from C to B.

And the mad bitch gave no clue about the use of in or out of circuit
testing.


> In circuit, E to B reads an ohm or
> under as the secondary of the horiz driver transformer is directly
> across it..

** Not all HOT drive circuits are like that.

Many have a low value R in series with the base with a diode across it.

The original exchange was:

" > The horizontal deflection output transistor measures 5.7 omhs from
> emitter to base in either direction.

** Probably normal. "

See - no reference is made to any particular set in my remark .


** Why don't you go fuck two dead donkeys ?

...... Phil


== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 7:38 pm
From: Stroonz


On Mar 14, 10:08 pm, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

>
> ** The OP corrected her error in the next post  -  which like a total
> shithead you have not bothered to even read.
>

****** Yes, the OP did correct her error, something you refuse to
do. You said a 5.7 ohm reading was "probably normal" for her Sony.
You were wrong and can't admit it. Nice character flaw Phil.


> The original exchange was:
>
> " > The horizontal deflection output transistor measures 5.7 omhs from
>   >  emitter to base in either direction.
>
> ** Probably normal.  "
>
> See -  no reference is made to any particular set in my remark .

It's hard to explain this to someone who is unfamiliar with Sonys, but
I'll try again: If everything in her Sony is normal, the E to B
resistance reading will be under an ohm in circuit. If the secondary
of the horiz drive trans in her Sony is open or the connection is bad,
it will read the internal emitter to base resistor directly, if the
transistor is so equipped. (some Sonys of this era use no e to be
resistor). If the transistor is measured out of circuit, it will read
approx 35 ohms e to b if it's not shorted. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES
will this TV show 5.7 ohms across the e to b junction. Such a reading
is ABNORMAL. Perhaps you left the "ab" out of your reply.

And I know you'll requote her correcting her reading, but it doesn't
change the fact that you believed and proclaimed as fact that an E to
B reading of 5.7 ohms in HER SONY was normal.


> ** Why don't you go fuck two dead donkeys ?
>
> ......  Phil

You know, vile, classless folk take all the fun out of a debate.

Enjoy your last word Phil......


== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 7:41 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Stroonz is a LYING PSYCHOPATH "

You said a 5.7 ohm reading was "probably normal" for her Sony.

** Wrong.


> The original exchange was:
>
> " > The horizontal deflection output transistor measures 5.7 omhs from
> > emitter to base in either direction.
>
> ** Probably normal. "
>
> See - no reference is made to any particular set in my remark .


** Why don't you go fuck two dead donkeys ?


== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 9:42 pm
From: Sylvia Else


On 15/03/2011 10:33 AM, b wrote:
> Sony tvs are notorious for being picky about spares. I dislike them
> for that reason, as they usually get repair estimates rejected due to
> cost grounds.And that's assuming spares availability...
>
> I recently dumped a 25" CRT set (FE2 chassis I think) - shorted
> horizontal output stage. Common fault with the chassis - the
> transformer fails, killing the line o/p transistor and damages the
> micro. Unless you replace the lot in one go, with genuine sony bits,
> you're back to square one... plus the uPc is NLA and an awkward smd
> type. Set was BER, a shame considering it was barely 8 years old.
> -B

That's the kind of scenario that's deterred me from replacing the
transistor. Your comment about the damage to the microprocessor is
particularly relevant given my inability to persuade the set to produce
sound with the transistor removed, or even to enter/leave standby mode.

Sylvia.


== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 10:12 pm
From: kreed


On Mar 15, 2:42 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid> wrote:
> On 15/03/2011 10:33 AM, b wrote:
>
> > Sony tvs are notorious for being picky about spares. I dislike them
> > for that reason, as they usually get repair estimates rejected due to
> > cost grounds.And that's assuming spares availability...
>
> >   I recently dumped a 25" CRT set (FE2 chassis I think) - shorted
> > horizontal output stage. Common fault with the chassis - the
> > transformer fails, killing the line o/p transistor and damages the
> > micro. Unless you replace the lot in one go, with genuine sony bits,
> > you're back to square one... plus the uPc is NLA and an awkward smd
> > type. Set was BER, a shame considering it was barely 8 years old.
> > -B
>
> That's the kind of scenario that's deterred me from replacing the
> transistor. Your comment about the damage to the microprocessor is
> particularly relevant given my inability to persuade the set to produce
> sound with the transistor removed, or even to enter/leave standby mode.
>
> Sylvia.

Not familiar with the set so I don't know exactly - but functions
related to sound may
be powered from a rail generated from the EHT transformer.

Even if not, it is possible that it may be muted or disabled by the
CPU if the EHT circuit isn't working correctly.
Many other functions may be shut off for safety also.

In the past I have found that the majority of sets/monitors (note -
have not worked on many newer than the 1990's)
will work once the H out transistor is replaced, however this isn't
always the case. The tuning caps (usually across the transistor) can
fail or lose capacitance causing the voltage to go through the roof
(they often look normal),
yokes can burn out (Samsung, usually inside on the H section where you
can't see it without removing from tube, usually from corrosion), the
EHT transformer can short internally, or can develop an arc through
the plastic casing to chassis.

Arcing from out of the housing on some transformers that contains the
focus and screen pots. I have seen often

Some of these arcs can be particularly bad, in fact some seem to
manage to burn their way through silicon sealant and continue the arc
as before. (note -too close to the frame to allow a decent thickness)

In some cases, the only way I could stop this was to remove the
aluminium frame from around the transformer, and cut away a section of
it near the where the arc was so as to give the transformer nothing to
arc to. It also allowed more clearance for a thicker coat of silcone
sealant to prevent future problems.

I am leaving out things like dry joints and obviously damaged
components as I assume most people on this group would look for these
before posting.

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TOPIC: Spook kills his son by repeatedly throwing on ground and stuffing in
trash bin afterwards
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c412ad2d3c7b1cfb?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:13 pm
From: Jen Zatoth


On Mar 6, 9:17 am, Robert Catt <bobbythec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's see. So far you've used the racist epithets spook, coon and
> nigger in your headers, and a few others denigrating other ethnic and
> racial groups. You're part of the reason people are moving from
> newsgroups to sites like Facebook and Twitter. There, they can block
> out a------s like you.

you say it like it's a bad thing, matey ;)


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 9:08 pm
From: Lady Veteran


On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:13:57 -0700 (PDT), Jen Zatoth
<shadowkell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Mar 6, 9:17 am, Robert Catt <bobbythec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let's see. So far you've used the racist epithets spook, coon and
>> nigger in your headers, and a few others denigrating other ethnic and
>> racial groups. You're part of the reason people are moving from
>> newsgroups to sites like Facebook and Twitter. There, they can block
>> out a------s like you.
>
>you say it like it's a bad thing, matey ;)

It is a bad thing, matey...

LV

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 11:17 pm
From: "tom c"

"Jen Zatoth" <shadowkell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:26b01074-9aea-4b53-85e1-414ec0e4bccc@r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 6, 9:17 am, Robert Catt <bobbythec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's see. So far you've used the racist epithets spook, coon and
> nigger in your headers, and a few others denigrating other ethnic and
> racial groups. You're part of the reason people are moving from
> newsgroups to sites like Facebook and Twitter. There, they can block
> out a------s like you.

>you say it like it's a bad thing, matey ;)

YO! Zatoth!

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TOPIC: DJ-Tech S-1 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ee3f29717f1b06b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 6:44 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e9008213-34ee-4110-ae94-36177882e7da@c9g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 10, 7:09 pm, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:506ep.62072$FV5.1779@newsfe28.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:ilam4o$fv7$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> Arfa Daily <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:c%2ep.24512$2H.21966@newsfe15.ams2...
>> >>> Anyone got any knowledge / experience of this "Professional Twin SD
>> >>> MP3
>> >>> player" ?
>>
>> >>> This one is from a customer who's lost his user guide. If you go to
>> >>> DJ
>> >>> Tech's website, even though the unit is only a few years old, they
>> >>> list
>> >>> it
>> >>> as 'legacy' and only have a basic spec listed for download - no
>> >>> manuals.
>> >>> Needless to say, they don't respond to requests for help in this
>> >>> regard.
>>
>> >>> The problem with the unit is that when you power it up, ( the soft
>> >>> power
>> >>> button works ok at this time), the message "UpdateUI--"
>> >>> appears
>> >> in
>> >>> the left window. Anyone know what exactly it's trying to tell us, and
>> >>> whether it's correctable with a master reset or something ? I'm
>> >>> guessing
>> >>> that the "UI" bit might be User Interface ?? Beyond this initial
>> >>> message,
>> >> it
>> >>> does nothing, and doesn't respond to any controls, including the
>> >>> power
>> >>> button. The only way to then get it to power back off, is to remove
>> >>> power
>> >>> from the wall wart.
>>
>> >>> Arfa
>>
>> >> Sometimes archive.org has legacy copies of older websites with the
>> >> then
>> >> current user manuals
>>
>> > Thanks. I'll give it a look.
>>
>> > Arfa
>>
>> Nope. 'Fraid not. They haven't got that page archived.
>>
>> Arfa
>
> Could it be that there is a noisy power line wreaking havoc with the
> uPc? try another psu.
>
> beyond that, it's schematics-and-scope time, or you're buggered...
> B

Sadly, the power supply output is dead clean. Being unable to solicit even
an acknowledgement from the manufacturer, even though they have a good web
presence with an invitation to "contact us" on their site, we have now
returned it to the owner, with a detailed explanation as to why we have not
been able to fix it. Of course, he will never buy one of their products
again ...

Arfa


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TOPIC: Pig smacks his bitch up
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cc9abb3fcc8f7d04?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 4:04 pm
From: Michael Gross


http://www.saipantribune.com/newsstory.aspx?cat=1&newsID=107721

A former police officer accused of beating up his former girlfriend
inside the office of Sen. Paul Manglona on Capital Hill is set to change
his not guilty plea.

Victor Val Borja Hocog is scheduled to appear at the Rota Superior Court
on May 6, 2011, for a change of plea hearing.

Assistant public defender Adam Miles is serving as Hocog's counsel.

The Office of the Attorney General had charged the 36-year-old Hocog
with assault and battery, attempted kidnapping, kidnapping, assault and
battery, and unlawful possession of a controlled substance.

Police investigation showed that on Sept. 29, 2009, on Saipan, Hocog
went inside the office of Sen. Manglona, where Hocog's ex-girlfriend
works. He allegedly locked the door and then choked and slapped the victim.

The Legislature's sergeant-at-arms broke down the door to get in. The
victim ran outside but Hocog chased her and allegedly tried to strangle her.

Hocog managed to flee before the arrival of police officers. He was
arrested later and was allegedly found in possession of "ice."

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TOPIC: Looking for 6" paper edge speaker
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/0855e1f20eb0f586?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 14 2011 11:27 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"bored junkie"

>I need a bunch of 6" or 6.5" cheap-ish quality speakers. They need to
> be "extended range" paper edge types, not foam edge low freq drivers.
> The application will be in miniature 4-12 style guitar spkr cabinets.
> There are spkrs in them now, but they are more of a woofer style with
> rolled cloth edge and they don't sound so hot for guitar use.

** Has Bored Junkie hit a new low in tediousness here ?


..... Phil


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