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* HAI - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/45d1647c6c5b8116?hl=en
* Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit - 10 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/da7ba841cd54d76f?hl=en
* CRT vertical deflection -- bad solder joints? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f637b1e686d3f98e?hl=en
* Magnavox ZV450MW8A Remote Control Fix? - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c88c8c3007ad7b2b?hl=en
* motherboard RAM failures - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3e25b3ae78058770?hl=en
* How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ff5b6703ec041dcc?hl=en
* Backwards electrolytics (again) - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1ce61685a5164a31?hl=en
* Compaq Presario 1230 Laptop Accessing BIOS Setup - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/82c722abeb2ce43e?hl=en
* HOLLYWOOD ACTRESS SO HOT VIDEOS AND PICTURES HERE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/acc78ea8280e5b8f?hl=en

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TOPIC: HAI
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/45d1647c6c5b8116?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 12:52 am
From: vijay balan


http://123maza.com/75/model419/

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TOPIC: Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/da7ba841cd54d76f?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 1:20 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Nutcase fucking Kook"
>>
>
> dunno but talking to a philosopher last week for his take on occam's
> razor
> ,
> he put me right in that it is a mistranslation of Occam's raison ...

** Utter bullshit.

Kook is such a retarded fuckwit, god know how he remembers to shit.

..... Phil


== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 1:40 am
From: Mike Tomlinson


In article <in0mdt$q9e$1@dont-email.me>, William Sommerwerck
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> writes

>Then what causes my bulk eraser to shut off when it overheats -- then come
>back when it cools off?

That's a resettable *thermal* fuse, NOT a fuse designed for overcurrent
protection.

--
Mike Tomlinson


== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 1:40 am
From: Mike Tomlinson


In article <pGLkp.1244$5t2.1132@newsfe06.ams2>, Gareth Magennis
<sound.service@btconnect.com> writes

>What's the antithesis of Occam's razor?

Occam's beard?

--
Mike Tomlinson


== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 1:39 am
From: Mike Tomlinson


In article <3aba67f6-dba2-4aa0-a849-ea9d9f988ddb@d12g2000vbz.googlegroup
s.com>, Stroonz <str00ntz@aol.com> writes

> You must be quite the hit with the ladies.

Given that he seems to be obsessed with ass, I suspect he probably hangs
out in his local gay leather bar.

--
Mike Tomlinson


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:55 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Mike Tomlinson"


** What a BORING know nothing, fuckwit bullshit artist.

The LESS you know about a topic - the MORE you feel compelled to talk
bollocks about it.

I call that sort of rampant narcissism: " pommy disease ".

Wot a shame it ain't fatal.

.... Phil


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:56 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


> "William Sommerwanker"

I love the fact I have a name that so lends itself to stupid wordplay.


>> Then what causes my bulk eraser to shut off when it overheats
>> -- then come back when it cools off?

> ** Have a fucking look.

I especially love the way you squirm when backed into a corner.


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:58 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


>> Then what causes my bulk eraser to shut off when it overheats
>> -- then come back when it cools off?

> That's a resettable *thermal* fuse, NOT a fuse designed for
> overcurrent protection.

I had always thought that at least some polyfuses /were/ resettable.
Regardless, thanks for the answer.


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:01 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"William Sommerwanker is a Lying Cunt "
>
> I love the fact I have a name that so lends itself to stupid wordplay.
>
>
>>> Then what causes my bulk eraser to shut off when it overheats
>>> -- then come back when it cools off?
>

** Have a fucking look !!!!!!!!!!!!!

You STINKING, AUTISTIC ARSEHOLE !!!


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:09 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"William Sommerwanker"
>
>>Some Bullshitting Pommy Fuckwit.
>
>>> Then what causes my bulk eraser to shut off when it overheats
>>> -- then come back when it cools off?
>
>> That's a resettable *thermal* fuse, NOT a fuse designed for
>> overcurrent protection.
>
> I had always thought that at least some polyfuses /were/ resettable.


** A " PolySwitch " is self resetting and so is a " Polyfuse".

Same basic device.

You fucking RETARD !!!!!!!


.... Phil


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 6:17 am
From: Tim Schwartz


On 3/30/2011 8:07 AM, N_Cook wrote:
> This 300W amp blows correct T3.15A fuses every now and then at sw on. The
> owner left in the last one so I can see it is just "tired" , neat break and
> 2 constituent parts of fuse wire remaining.
>
> Any issues concerning putting in an ex pc SMPS 450W, 250V land mains inrush
> thermistor, unknown specs, other than 14mm diameter, 4mm wide , 1mm diam
> leads, 8R cold , 1R after 20 seconds touched by soldering iron barrel. Other
> than poor physical integrity of the lead "welds" to the body (like disc
> ceramic cap) - will mount on small high temp board and wire into the neutral
> side of the wiring, with plenty of clear air space around.
>
> Other than zero crossing Triac sub-cicuit to delay sw off, not creating
> ferrite core residual magnetism, and delayed switching on also, any other
> ways around this phenomenon other than bad practise uprating of the mains
> fuse? Are polyswitches used in these circumstances , ie not purely "fuse"
> action or generic name for devices specific for this purpose?
>
>

Nigel,

Also keep in mind as a possibility that the main filter caps are
getting tired, and a bit leaky, so that if the amp has not been switched
on for a week or 2, it might have abnormally high inrush current as the
caps charge/form back up.

Lastly, the older 'spring wire' fuses seemed more tolerant of the
inrush current compared to the modern chemically treated wire ones.
Maybe use an old style fuse, if you can find one.

It would be helpful if you would mention the make and model of the
product in your posts.

Regards,
Tim Schwartz
Bristol Electronics


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TOPIC: CRT vertical deflection -- bad solder joints?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f637b1e686d3f98e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 1:36 am
From: Mike Tomlinson


In article <pan.2011.03.30.16.05.12@lmao.lol.lol>, Meat Plow
<mhywattt@yahoo.com> writes
>
>Isn't that an unfair comparison?

Tell me how. Not being argumentative, I'd be genuinely interested to
hear why you think it's unfair.

--
Mike Tomlinson

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TOPIC: Magnavox ZV450MW8A Remote Control Fix?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c88c8c3007ad7b2b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:55 am
From: "Guv Bob"


Thanks, William. Any idea where to get a programmable remote?

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message news:imsmkn$5e0$1@dont-email.me...
> The problem, Guv Bob, is not so much in the remote control, but in the
> unit's firmware, which requires such confusing operation. Many products are
> designed with no concern whatever as to how people actually use them.
>
> The only thing I can suggest is to buy a remote control that can be
> programmed with IR sequences from your existing remote, AND supports macros.
> You should then be able to create one-button commands.
>
>


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:57 am
From: "Guv Bob"


Thanks, Franc. Very interesting.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message news:h7avo6lho9a5kn8ef84h1o7vgmort3i29s@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:04:24 -0800, "Guv Bob"
> <guvbob2003@YAHOOOOOOOOEY.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >It is a real shame that such a fine device from a good manufacturer ...
>
> FYI, it's made by Funai:
> http://www.funai-corp.com/6pdf/om/ZV450MW8A.pdf
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 4:44 am
From: PeterD


On 3/30/2011 8:07 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> PeterD wrote:
>>
>> On 3/29/2011 8:25 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>
>>> PeterD wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 3/28/2011 1:56 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Guv Bob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had this DVD/VCR combo unit for over 3 years now, and would like to find out if anyone has found a 3rd party remote control that can be used with it, or if the factory has a remote with upgraded software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The device is top quality and the manual is excellent, but the remote is so complicated and non-intuitive that if you don't use it every day, you have to go back to the manual, even after this long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The manual does leave out some basic steps -- like how to set the record speed (which they call "mode"). I'm fairly good with electronics (servicing industrial electronics is my business) and took me a good year before I could make basic settings without looking it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the features can't be done from the device and must be done via the remote control which is cryptic. It has way too many buttons, even for a combo unity, and has tiny labels that can't be read in a darkened room. If you hit a wrong button, sometimes it is impossible to figure out how to return the device to normal use without digging out the manual again. My manual is well worn and has many notes scribbled in it now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One problem is that when you are using the timer, you have to turn the device off and on with a button other than the ON/OFF button. If your lovely wife comes in and used ON/OFF, it disables the timer, and must be reset again with the special non-ON/OFF button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a real shame that such a fine device from a good manufacturer has such a poor user interface. A better designed remote would completely change the usability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong newsgroup. This is a test equipment newsgroup. You want
>>>>> news:sci.electronics.repair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael... Careful you posted your reply to the wrong groups too!<g>
>>>
>>>
>>> No. I added the proper group.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I had to read that twice before I realized what you meant...<g> So you
>> added SER to help the OP out. Sure left me confused!
>
>
> Get used to it. It will happen more and more as you age. :(
>

Damn, not what I wanted to hear!

--
I'm never going to grow up.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 4:44 am
From: PeterD


On 3/31/2011 5:55 AM, Guv Bob wrote:
> Thanks, William. Any idea where to get a programmable remote?
>
> "William Sommerwerck"<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message news:imsmkn$5e0$1@dont-email.me...
>> The problem, Guv Bob, is not so much in the remote control, but in the
>> unit's firmware, which requires such confusing operation. Many products are
>> designed with no concern whatever as to how people actually use them.
>>
>> The only thing I can suggest is to buy a remote control that can be
>> programmed with IR sequences from your existing remote, AND supports macros.
>> You should then be able to create one-button commands.
>>
>>

Believe it or not, I've found them more often in 'outlet' or 'job lot'
stores than anywhere else.

--
I'm never going to grow up.

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TOPIC: motherboard RAM failures
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3e25b3ae78058770?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 2:15 am
From: JW


On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:50:30 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote in Message id: <oui6p6l2pbc53qa6mbghk2q5vfam21qq2u@4ax.com>:

>Corsair "Dominator" RAM series is the favored RAM for overclocking
>adventures. They even advertise it.
><http://www.corsair.com/memory/dominator.html>
>As I recall, when I tore apart one of their DDR2 sticks, it's Intel
>chips, with a useless aluminum heat sink attached mostly for
>aesthetics.

Huh? I believe Intel stopped making DRAM back in the 80's.

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TOPIC: How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ff5b6703ec041dcc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:35 am
From: Bob Villa


On Mar 7, 9:13 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
>

> > Do YOU even know how to read? I put this out there...if you want to
> > add to it from your experience go to it. There are people who are just
> > trying to save some money and fix things themselves. Lighten up...I
> > don't need to belong to your fucking club!
>
>    Posting half assed information helps no one, and bad electrolytics in
> power supplies have been a problem since the '20s.  Also, no one needs
> your childish rants.  There are enough crybabies who pop into the group
> and think they are a genius, without you.
>
> --
> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
> Teflon coated.

Hey Mike when can I expect this PSU to fail...a few years from now?
Thanks for your gracious responses.

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TOPIC: Backwards electrolytics (again)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1ce61685a5164a31?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:36 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Jeff Liebermann"
>
> It's another day in capacitor hell. About 2 months ago, I replaced
> the bulging caps in a Dell Optiplex GX-520, but inserted them
> backwards.
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/GX520-bad-caps.jpg>
> Today, I have an irate customer with a Dell XPS-200 that I sold him.
> Same problem, again:
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/xps200-bad-caps.jpg>
> I had replaced 11 caps on this board, all of them backwards. It's
> difficult to see on the photo, but the white silkscreened arrow is "+"
> instead of the usual "-" . Now, I get to check all the other Dell
> machines, where I probably inserted the caps backwards.
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/For-Sale-PC.jpg>
> Maybe I should find something else to do for a while? Grumble...


** With all those damn electros installed in reverse polarity, be a damn
site easier to alter the DC rails to suit - wouldn't it ??

..... Phil ;-)

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 3:41 am
From: JW


On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:36:31 +1100 "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au>
wrote in Message id: <8vj3pjF175U1@mid.individual.net>:

>
>"Jeff Liebermann"
>>
>> It's another day in capacitor hell. About 2 months ago, I replaced
>> the bulging caps in a Dell Optiplex GX-520, but inserted them
>> backwards.
>> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/GX520-bad-caps.jpg>
>> Today, I have an irate customer with a Dell XPS-200 that I sold him.
>> Same problem, again:
>> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/xps200-bad-caps.jpg>
>> I had replaced 11 caps on this board, all of them backwards. It's
>> difficult to see on the photo, but the white silkscreened arrow is "+"
>> instead of the usual "-" . Now, I get to check all the other Dell
>> machines, where I probably inserted the caps backwards.
>> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/For-Sale-PC.jpg>
>> Maybe I should find something else to do for a while? Grumble...
>
>
> ** With all those damn electros installed in reverse polarity, be a damn
>site easier to alter the DC rails to suit - wouldn't it ??

Yeah! And take a video for us to see what happens when you power it up.
Extra points for audio. Make sure you use a 600W or better supply,
fold-overs just won't cut it. ;)


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 4:19 am
From: Stroonz


On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
.
>
>  ** With all those damn electros installed in reverse polarity, be a damn
> site easier to alter the DC rails to suit  -  wouldn't it ??
>
> .....  Phil   ;-)


Geez Phil, what kind of Phil Allison answer is that? And a smiley
emoticon? Since you're off your game, I thought I'd take the liberty
and reply to Jeff in the proper Allison manner:

"Jeff LIeberfool"

>
> > It's another day in capacitor hell. About 2 months ago, I replaced
> > the bulging caps in a Dell Optiplex GX-520, but inserted them
> > backwards.

** Are you f**king blind?

> > <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/GX520-bad-caps.jpg>
> > Today, I have an irate customer with a Dell XPS-200 that I sold him.
> > Same problem, again:
> > <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/xps200-bad-caps.jpg>
> > I had replaced 11 caps on this board, all of them backwards.

** Twice? What kind of moron are you?


> > difficult to see on the photo, but the white silkscreened arrow is "+"
> > instead of the usual "-" . Now, I get to check all the other Dell
> > machines, where I probably inserted the caps backwards.
> > <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/For-Sale-PC.jpg>
> > Maybe I should find something else to do for a while? Grumble...

** Yeah, like retire you idiot!

...Phil

How did I do?

Edwin

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 4:37 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Stroonz"

How did I do?


** Just as psycho, brainless and retarded as ever.

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TOPIC: Compaq Presario 1230 Laptop Accessing BIOS Setup
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/82c722abeb2ce43e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 6:43 am
From: jaugustine@verizon.net


Hi,

I service TVs, etc. Once in a while, I service my own computers, one of
which is a Compaq Presario 1230 laptop with Windows 98se I bought second hand
a few years ago. You may consider this obsolete, but to me, it is very
useful.

Recently, during power up, I saw "Error, O2BO: Diskette drive A error".
I removed the floppy drive, but I got the same error, which could be
it's controller?

I inserted a bootable CD rom hoping that the boot sequence might start at
the CD rom, but it didn't. It must be A: drive first. Note: The HDD is fine
because I removed it and checked it on anther PC.

If I can change the boot sequence, I can do without the floppy drive,
but to get into the settings by pressing F10, I have to enter a password.
I don't have the phone number of the person I bought it from who lives
out of town.

I removed the RTC/CMOS battery (soldered in) and waited 24 hours
hoping that it may "clear" the password requirement, but it did not.
Maybe I should wait longer?

Pressing F10 presents a screen that says, "Phoenix BIOS Setup Utility"
followed by a prompt for a password. I tried some by guessing, but it
didn't work. I hope the password isn't stored in the BIOS.

Do you know a technique to bypass the password requirement so
I can change the boot sequence?

Thank You in Advance, John

PS, Remove "ine" from my email address


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 6:14 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


jaugustine@verizon.net wrote:

> If I can change the boot sequence, I can do without the floppy drive,
> but to get into the settings by pressing F10, I have to enter a password.
> I don't have the phone number of the person I bought it from who lives
> out of town.

<http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/edwin/laptops/compaq/Compaq%20Presario/Compaq%20Presario%201230%201232.pdf>

Page 21.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.

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TOPIC: HOLLYWOOD ACTRESS SO HOT VIDEOS AND PICTURES HERE
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/acc78ea8280e5b8f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 31 2011 7:25 am
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