Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 20 updates in 7 topics

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Sep 30 09:16AM +0100

Will not reliably switch or stay latched in piano or synth mode via the
select switch. I suspect the light action switch is too light. Easy
enough to remove the keycover and inspect the phosphor bronze action. Is
it just a matter of cutting back the spine of the keycap a bit , so the
action is farther removed from a hair-trigger situation? All clean and
tidy inside the switch.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Sep 30 04:14PM +0100

I think cause or part of the problem is the metal casing of the top ,
containing the switches, has been bent,dished or flexed slightly. The
keycaps are then partially compressed by the metalwork. Some padding
washers will go in there, as any of the keycaps could be the next affected.
Also the wooden end cheeks are loose. Only 2 thin wood screws per cheek
, and the wood is now not holding the screw threads. Some bracing plates
will go in there with 3 woodscrews extra. Employing the old carpenter's
trick of the axis of the 3 screws all angled relative to each other so
they mutually anchor themselves in there, also allows longer screws for
the relatively thin wood available.
Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>: Sep 29 09:24PM -0700

Hi,
Anyone have a list of "usual suspects" with this HP1740A scope when
there is no display at all? Front panel lights seem working, but that is
all I find so far. Have not opened the case yet, nothing seems to "smell
bad" so far. I won't be stressed if it can't be fixed, I bought it for
the nice rolling stand it was sitting on...I have another similar,
slightly newer antique scope that is still working that can use that stand.
 
TIA,
Bill M
JC <Chipbee40_SpamNo@yahoo.com>: Sep 30 08:19AM -0400

On 9/30/2015 12:24 AM, Bill Martin wrote:
> slightly newer antique scope that is still working that can use that stand.
 
> TIA,
> Bill M
All the interboard connections on these are suspect for dry/bad joints
especially on the power board where you can get a nice burn up from the
arcing. Also the vertical output chip fails so you will get a trace but
no deflection. If you can go over all the joints carefully you might
have an easy repair.
thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Sep 29 06:34PM -0700

I'm 'face-blind' - prosopagnosia in fancy
terms. I distinguish non-family members
by heights, sounds of voice, and other non-
facial cues.
Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>: Sep 29 10:16PM -0400

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 18:34:26 -0700 (PDT), thekmanrocks@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>terms. I distinguish non-family members
>by heights, sounds of voice, and other non-
>facial cues.
 
So I Googled prosopagnosia. I only read the first paragraph from
wiki. It says it can affect 2.5% of the population. I have never
heard if it. Surely if it affects that much of the population, I have
probably met many people with the condition.
 
When you first said it, it seemed like it would be a pretty seriously
debilitating, but after thinking about it probably not so much.
 
I would guess you also have close friends and co workers that you can
distinguish their faces?
Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid>: Sep 29 10:24PM -0400

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 22:16:55 -0400, Seymore4Head
>debilitating, but after thinking about it probably not so much.
 
>I would guess you also have close friends and co workers that you can
>distinguish their faces?
 
After sending this message, I was going to close the Google search
page and found this:
Notable cases
Steve Wozniak, Co-Founder of Apple[39] My geek hero
 
Jane Goodall
She was known to have named some of her favorite chimpanzees. If you
can't tell people apart, would you be more or less likely to be able
to tell chimpanzees apart?
thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Sep 30 04:17AM -0700

Seymore4Head:
 
 
Ironically, I can recognize most makes/models
of cars by the shape of their headlights at night,
as well as most major types of commercial jet
liners passing over our neighborhood(we're
under a flightpath that takes many of them
across to England & Europe).
 
 
What I NEED is to be able to recognize the
most basic feature of fellow human beings -
their FACES for cryin out loud! Watching
movies with me is an exercise in patience,
as I am constantly confusing similar looking
characters. And the condition is not helped
by the use of glasses.
 
 
I use the example of Hilary Duff and
Britney Spears some years ago, when
they were simultaneously on top of
their careers and on the fronts of
magazines. Until I picked the magazine
up and read the caption I was SURE
Britney was Hilary and vice versa. But
most other people, especially women,
said I must have been crazy to confuse
the two! lol
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Sep 30 03:20AM -0700

** Hi all,
 
one thing repair techs dread is being presented with an item for repair that cannot be put under test while in the workshop. Usually, this is because the item requires a missing accessory in order to operate OR is itself an accessory to a larger unit.
 
Essential accessories could be AC adaptors or multi-voltage PSUs for mixing consoles, IR remotes, power leads with oddball plugs, foot switch units with multi-pin connectors and many others.
 
A real annoyance is when radio mics arrive with no receiver, or the reverse.
 
Some customers seem unable to comprehend that repairing electronics involves a LOT of testing - not just final testing ( which they fondly imagine they can do for you) but also initial and continual testing during fault finding and fixing process.
 
Dunno if Scotty ever said the words in my heading, but he should have - it would make explaining it a lot easier.
 
 
 
... Phil
John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk>: Sep 29 07:18PM +0100


>> Posted without comment :)
 
>> http://www.anonpic.com/images/fakecapacitor1.jpg
 
> The Rubycon 35V rated caps must be pretty good :-)
 
They *are* pretty good aren't they? That surprised me a bit, putting a
decent brand name inside a fake.
 
Hmm... perhaps the Rubycons are fake too... Is there something else
inside them too?
 
 
--
 
John Devereux
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Sep 29 08:42PM -0400

On 09/29/2015 02:18 PM, John Devereux wrote:
> decent brand name inside a fake.
 
> Hmm... perhaps the Rubycons are fake too... Is there something else
> inside them too?
 
The Rubycon looks like it was salvaged from a discarded board.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
 
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
 
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 29 10:22PM -0400

On 9/29/2015 8:42 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
 
>> Hmm... perhaps the Rubycons are fake too... Is there something else
>> inside them too?
 
> The Rubycon looks like it was salvaged from a discarded board.
 
That's what they want you to think.
 
--
 
Rick
Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk>: Sep 30 10:47AM +0100

En el artículo <87eghh6qdm.fsf@devereux.me.uk>, John Devereux
 
>Hmm... perhaps the Rubycons are fake too...
 
*ding*
 
Look more closely at the logo. It's "Rulycon", a fake designed to look
like Rubycon.
 
These came out about the same time as the "bad caps" scandal a few years
ago.
 
--
(\_/)
(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")
mroberds@att.net: Sep 30 04:23AM

> I found that _both_ the pushbuttons were faulty and the IC had failed.
> How annoying.
 
Hey, at least you found it. Thanks for posting what the result was.
 
Matt Roberds
bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>: Sep 30 12:58AM -0400

>> How annoying.
 
> Hey, at least you found it. Thanks for posting what the result was.
 
> Matt Roberds
 
Yeah. The switches are that membrane type where a conductive bit of
carbon shorts two contacts together. They can be pried open by drilling
into the case a bit with a Dremel tool. It looks like over the years
the metal contacts had formed a layer of oxidation, preventing a good
contact from being made.
 
Replacing the 4011 stopped the oscillation.
"Steve W." <csr684@NOTyahoo.com>: Sep 29 02:36PM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
 
> The way I see it, it's just another recall and the feds should just
> grant an exception for the victims of this scam. I think that's an easy
> solution to this problem.
 
That's just it, this isn't just another recall. These vehicles do not
meet US emissions standards as they are. The EPA will either force VW to
do a full recall and verification campaign or they could even make them
replace the cars. That is what still has to be determined.
 
 
--
Steve W.
"Ron D." <Ron.Dozier@gmail.com>: Sep 29 01:30PM -0700


> My question is HOW did the car *know* it was being *tested* for emissions?
 
I saw a brief article in the newspaper and things suggested were:
Barometric pressure
Steering wheel position
 
among other things.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Sep 29 01:57PM -0700

Possible, but I think the easiest way would be via the ABS. Rear wheels not turning. I could be wrong, I think German engineers get better drugs than most.
dsi1 <dsi1@fishing.net>: Sep 29 11:43AM -1000

On 9/29/2015 8:36 AM, Steve W. wrote:
> meet US emissions standards as they are. The EPA will either force VW to
> do a full recall and verification campaign or they could even make them
> replace the cars. That is what still has to be determined.
 
It doesn't have to be like that. Let's just treat it like another recall
and move on! What can I say, I'm a dreamer... ;)
John-Del <ohger1s@aol.com>: Sep 29 02:54PM -0700

> get the new firmware then they get to sue. If not then they would get
> no compensation because they have not suffered a loss.
> ERS
 
Owners will NOT have the option to opt out of the firmware being upgraded because the cars are not EPA certifiable at this point. They need to be brought into compliance by U.S. law or be crushed if they cant. If the owner refuses to get an approved fix done, then many (if not most) will fail the car's emissions test and pull the reg (CT).
 
As far as suffering loss, that depends on the fix. If the firmware (and most likely hardware) changes do bring the cars into compliance, but causes a loss of performance and/or fuel mileage, then the owners have indeed suffered a compensable loss. If it can be shown that the resale of the cars suffered as a result of all of this, then that's also compensable. If the fix actually improves performance and efficiency (long shot but who knows?), then it's a win for the customer as long as the fix doesn't shorten the life of the engine.
 
If the fix ends up being like so many other recalls, I'm sure VW will also include some VW swag for the customers to compensate for the trouble (VW backpack, key rings, VW feminine hygiene products, etc.) and probably coupons for service and/or extending the warranty.
 
It will be interesting to see if VW had a fix ready in case the scam became known.
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