Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 4 topics

mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier): Nov 10 04:27PM


>I can't even find a sensible search structure, eg date-limitation, to
>https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/sci.electronics.repair
 
>I probably took an image of the message sometime since 2000
 
 
The goal for a Google Search these days seem to be "provide results
good enough that they can sell eyeballs to advertisers" as opposed to
"provide the best results". I've found that if you repeat/refine
the search they dig deeper into the files.
 
Anyway, since I did the Proponent thing and got this group created,
I've run a off line news system that downloads the traffic to my
own linux system(s). As a byproduct of that, I've been archiving
it. (But in the old days, the backup medium was floppy disks, so
I'm never sure if bit rot didn't get something).
 
Here are the first of your posts that I could find.
 
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From: Cafe User <Guest_1>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re:oscilloscope manuals-Nigel Cook
Date: 3 Nov 1995 08:36:28 GMT
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I repair oscilloscopes and have amassed a library of approx 300 test
equipment manuals,mainly scopes.Is there anyone in GB/UK who is willing
to swap manuals.Sorry not (as yet) on the net,please phone Nigel on
Southampton,England 01703 584680.

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Subject: Oscilloscope Manuals--Nigel Cook
Date: 6 Nov 1995 08:45:41 GMT
Message-ID: <47khvl$o1i@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>

<same as above>
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Subject: Oscilloscope manuals----Nigel Cook
Date: 9 Nov 1995 08:40:03 GMT
Message-ID: <47sep3$j8e@alpha.aladdin.co.uk>

<same as above>
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From: Nigel Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Photocopier repair :-Nigel Cook
Date: 4 Feb 1996 00:11:01 GMT
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Does anyone know how to 1) recoat (ptfe?) coating on output
fuser rolller, 2) patch-up damage on (germanium?) photoconductor
drum

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From: Nigel Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: De-soldering on the cheap
Date: 4 Feb 1996 08:53:46 GMT
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Use a hot-air paint-stripper,1400W,500 degree centigrade,with 2 level heat control
to prolong element life. Activity may appear fearsome but it is no worse than a
flow-solder bath.
Pre-heat for one minute then apply to pcb,make extractor tool to pull ic from component
side.
Use for salvaging(working order) up to 64 pin ics ( when practised ),other components, sm
and even repair (tracks are not dislodged).
SAFETY NOTE:- ensure good ventilation, use safety goggles,and beware of very slight
risk of combustion.
For more advice contact e-mail,telephone or snail mail me the proprietor of
Diverse Devices,Southampton,England;telephone (+44) 01703 584680
(obscure/obsolete components,second hand test equipment,schematics etc)
Postal: 75 Priory Rd,St Denys,Southampton,England SO17 2JQ.

 
Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Nov 11 04:36PM

On 10/11/2015 16:27, Mark Zenier wrote:
> Postal: 75 Priory Rd,St Denys,Southampton,England SO17 2JQ.
 
> Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
> Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
 
Yes, thanks for that, the first one there on scope manuals was my first
post.
Swapping manuals did not work, by the way. It was a cheap way of
obtaining an original manual, to inflate the price of ,pre flea-bay,
bits of equipment sales.
Plus the car-share problem, impossibility of matching different
requirements.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Nov 11 03:03PM

Half hour into a presentation , a varying small section of the picture
would break . Perhaps due to PbF problem , but did not seem to be
vibration sensitive. If anything , it varied with picture content.
About 90 percent of the image was sync'd properly, and the interference
moved about , so the information was there.
It seemed to start when there was large areas of black in the images or
perhaps just coincidence, once started , it remained much the same ,
just the vertical position randomly moved about.
The interference was , with a vertical line, the line would break
horizontally , leaving a curved line , partial loss of line sync.
At the moment I'm running with another pc input feed, before getting
inside, and no breakup emerged over an hour, but that would be typical
PbF of course. I'd like to eliminate a problem of syncing between pc and
projector firstly. Owner of the pc , when this problem emerged had never
had this problem with any other projector and this projector had never
had that fault before, even short term intermittant.
When the projector was switched off for a 10 minute break, the same
problem was there , with the same pc feed.
No name Chinese LCD type projector.
Any advice if I need to get inside ? no manual and nothing obvious on
any of the OSD menu screens for adjustment.
DaveC <not@home.cow>: Nov 10 11:25AM -0800

I need to replace a cable (16-conductor, 28-ish awg, stranded, shielded) on
an industrial machine. It's used to connet a hand controller (small box
with rotary encoder and pushbuttons) to the main control panel.
 
The original is a coiled (a la telephone handset) but the replacement
doesn't need to be. During use the cable will be splashed with lubricating
oil (think dino motor oil) so in the short-term (5 years) it needs to be
resistant to this.
 
I found this:
 
http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/multi_core/28awg/
 
which is cable for the music-concert industry (audio mixers and such).
 
I can't find any rubber-insulated cables (a la SJ or SO cables). How
resistant will PVC-jacket be to oil?
 
Thanks.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Nov 10 07:37PM

On 10/11/2015 19:25, DaveC wrote:
 
> I can't find any rubber-insulated cables (a la SJ or SO cables). How
> resistant will PVC-jacket be to oil?
 
> Thanks.
 
Find some silicone rubber sleeving of the right sort of internal diameter.
With a goodly amount of talcum powder , it should be possible to cover
some standard cable, using a "peristaltic" or snake-motion sort of
action, pushing and pulling, to feed it over the core cabling.
DaveC <not@home.cow>: Nov 10 11:44AM -0800

> With a goodly amount of talcum powder , it should be possible to cover
> some standard cable, using a "peristaltic" or snake-motion sort of
> action, pushing and pulling, to feed it over the core cabling.
 
Are you saying that the PVC won't hold up to dino oils?
"Rich." <rcres@XXnewsguy.com>: Nov 10 03:14PM -0500

"DaveC" <not@home.cow> wrote in message
news:0001HW.1BF27C0D00098211124B393CF@news.eternal-september.org...
 
> I can't find any rubber-insulated cables (a la SJ or SO cables). How
> resistant will PVC-jacket be to oil?
 
> Thanks.
 
 
PVC jacketed cables are oil resistant.
DaveC <not@home.cow>: Nov 10 02:14PM -0800

> You need to find a manufacturer's data sheet to be sure.
 
http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/multi_core/28awg/
Glen Walpert <nospam@null.void>: Nov 11 02:22AM

On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 14:14:18 -0800, DaveC wrote:
 
>> You need to find a manufacturer's data sheet to be sure.
 
> http://www.mogamicable.com/category/bulk/multi_core/28awg/
 
No useful info on oil resistance there.
 
The oil resistance of PVC is widely variable, depending on the
plasticisers used and possibly other factors, but is generally quite
poor. I have never seen any cable rated as oil resistant with a PVC
jacket. I have seen PVC swell, lose strength and disintegrate from
exposure to oil. A search on the term 'oil resistant cable' should turn
up something more likely to hold up well under oil exposure, at a higher
cost.
Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>: Nov 10 05:55PM

>>> Mark
 
>> Something must be wrong. Nobody ever agrees with me.
 
> I didn't even notice the wire.
 
I didn't see it either. The shield looks OEM, even with the weird shape.
The plating looks intact and it has no handling marks as if it was rigged
up by somebody- no cut marks, no scratches from pliers etc.
 
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