Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 3 topics

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Sep 25 10:11PM +0800

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Subject: Clueless iPhone 7 owners tricked into DRILLING hole in their
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:02:39 -0400
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Well stupid people do stupid shit and Apple people prove the
point....LOL look no further than david Brooks (Devon)..LMAO!!
 
Clueless iPhone 7 owners tricked into DRILLING hole in their phones to
'get headphone jack'...
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1845589/clueless-iphone-7-owners-tricked-into-drilling-hole-in-their-phones-to-get-a-headphone-jack/
"Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net>: Sep 24 12:12PM -0400

It quit working this week and found the 2 A fuse blown. Not in stock, so
had to order some. In the meantime, took it apart and powered it from a
bench supply and found it OK but only if the bench supply was turned on
after the front panel switch was turned on. Turning it on or off with the
front panel switch activated the crowbar circuit.
 
I suspected a switcher problem and probing in circuit showed C36 (the main 5
volt switcher cap) to be measuring about 1 uF and the schematic shows 390
uF. Replaced it and all is fine now. Fuses are due tomorrow from Amazon
(hate to make those folks work on Sunday).
 
Lucky that the manual with schematics is a free download. Google showed it
about 6 choices down. NEAT!
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Sep 24 08:18PM -0700

Charles wrote:
> bench supply and found it OK but only if the bench supply was turned on
> after the front panel switch was turned on. Turning it on or off with the
> front panel switch activated the crowbar circuit.
 
** The HP counter has a conventional PSU delivering about 14VDC followed by a switching regulator for the 5V rail. 2A fuse is between the bridge rectifier and a pair of 2200uF electros. If the 5V rail goes out of tolerance, an SCR is triggered to short the electros and blow the fuse.
 
 
> I suspected a switcher problem and probing in circuit showed C36 (the main 5
> volt switcher cap) to be measuring about 1 uF and the schematic shows 390
> uF. Replaced it and all is fine now.
 
** The 390uF electro is the filter for the 5V rail and comes after a choke, high speed diode and switching transistor.
 
With a value like 1uF it could not possibly do its job and the 5V rail would be full of HF switching noise which could trigger the SCR.
 
Nice of HP to fit that crowbar and save all the digital circuits.
 
I have worked on expensve gear that had massive damage or was a complete write off because of a wayward 5V rail.
 
 
.... Phil
Horace Algiers <horace@horacealgiers.com>: Sep 24 10:46PM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:24:27 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> give you a "free" iPhone 7 32GB when you do two things:
> a. You trade in *any* iPhone 6
> b. You keep your service for the next two years
 
BTW, this is roughly the price of just the *sales tax* on the iPhone 7:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/09533937
 
So, the real question is whether the iPhone 7 is worth the sales tax on it
since, admittedly, the tax on the iPhone 7 is close to the cost of a new
$75 dual-SIM 16GB 4G Doogee HomTom HT7 Pro, which comes with a 1 GHz quad
core 64-bit CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 5.5 inch 1280x720 HD IPS Screen and
expandable storage to 128GB, removable battery, 13 & 5 megapixel cameras
*and* a headphone jack!
ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com>: Sep 24 08:05PM -0500

> core 64-bit CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 5.5 inch 1280x720 HD IPS Screen and
> expandable storage to 128GB, removable battery, 13 & 5 megapixel cameras
> *and* a headphone jack!
 
Why are you asking here? Worth is determined by the buyer, if you think it
is worth it. Otherwise don't. Pretty simple from where I sit. I don't
come to a usenet group to ask whether something is worth whatever the price
is because the only thing anyone can give is an opinion about whether it is
worth it to them. Not exactly rocket science you know.
 
Of course, in the interest of good trollmanship you'll drag this out
forever.
 
--
Elfin
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