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ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 05 04:13AM -0700 > "Heavily processed" and "inherently dynamic"   > Contradiction in terms?       Not at all. I'd expound further but I don't want to upset Phil. He's battling roaches in his trailer and they've opened up another front. He hasn't been his normal charming self for a while.

thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Jun 05 04:38AM -0700 ohg...@gmail.com wrote: "Not at all. I'd expound further but I don't want to upset Phil. "   We need to ignore the bulldogs on the thread and continue to promote intelligent discourse. Seriously!     My GUT tells me that a source (an entire song, individual tracks, stems, etc) retains *more* of its inherent dynamics when *less* processing(compression, limiting, etc) is applied to it. Please correct me anywhere you think my instincts are misleading me.

"None" <none@nospam.org>: Jun 05 08:27AM -0400 < thekma @gmail.com> wrote in message news:a13e9969-8dc6-473a-8b37-c6bf6f2457be@googlegroups.com...   > We need to ignore the bulldogs > on the thread and continue to > promote intelligent discourse.   Sorry, I'il buddy, you're too retarded for intelligent discourse.

ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 05 06:48AM -0700 > etc) is applied to it. Please > correct me anywhere you think > my instincts are misleading me.   I think we're talking about two different things. The processing I'm referring to isn't part of the recording process, but in the performance itself. In general, rock music is performed on instruments that already are heavily processed, guitars in particular. Guitars are filtered through all kinds of distortion, phasing, chorusing, etc. effects. Keyboards (other than the occasional acoustic piano) are also electrically processed and a lot of drums are synthesized anyway. These instruments are uniquely suited to digital recording. The dynamics I'm referring to is the range between the softest and loudest passages. Other than the occasional ballad, rock is very dynamic (even power ballads).   Symphonies OTOH feature many dozens of acoustic instruments, each making an unprocessed sound. And while many symphony pieces can be quite dynamic and demanding of a sound system, there is a lot of it that is soft.

thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Jun 05 07:16AM -0700 ohg...@gmail.com wrote: "Symphonies OTOH feature many dozens of acoustic instruments, each making an unprocessed sound. And while many symphony pieces can be quite dynamic and demanding of a sound system, there is a lot of it that is soft. "     I see what you mean. Still, your typical rock, rap, or pop song will have have a much higher average level overall, compared to jazz or classical.     As for orchestral dynamics, those depend largely on three things: the composition itself, the conductor, and his musicians. And the difference between loud and soft can be much greater in a symphony than on a top-40 or rock tune.     And I can usually tell if the sound of a classical CD has been dynamically compressed in post: Foobar 2000 Dynamic range analysis returns a DR value of 12 - comparable to a typical 1980s pop song. With most of the natural dynamics left in, that classical CD should register between DR18-30! Something digital audio was designed for.

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Jun 05 07:20AM +0100 On 05/06/2017 04:23, Trevor Wilson wrote:   > **Mmmm. Diana Rigg. The subject of more than one schoolboy dream. Then > there was that beautiful Lotus Elan. Mmmm.   > Still, a young Joanne Lumley was delectable in The New Avengers...   The oh so memorable and remarkable for the time, Diana Rigg in the S&M dungeon Avengers episode.

Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>: Jun 05 04:26PM +1000 On 5/06/2017 4:20 PM, N_Cook wrote:   >> Still, a young Joanne Lumley was delectable in The New Avengers...   > The oh so memorable and remarkable for the time, Diana Rigg in the S&M > dungeon Avengers episode.   **Bugger. Now you've got me thinking. I best speak to the missus later tonight...     -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au

ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 05 04:18AM -0700 On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 3:02:41 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:     > .... Phil       > Any other person who disagrees would simply say so and state their case.   ** WRONG: this NG is not a "chat room" for retards.   > .... Phil     Hey Phil, this is not a "chat room" so let's try to keep this about electronics repair. Thanks.

bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>: Jun 04 04:21PM -0400 On 06/04/2017 04:13 PM, Gareth Magennis wrote:     > ************************************************************   > I like that. :)   > Gareth.   I'm pretty sure "The Dopeifier" would be a pretty good name for a signal processor product; sadly the major manufacturers don't seem to ask my opinion on these matters much

Ralph Phillips <ralphp@philent.biz>: Jun 05 12:52AM -0500 > fits the image to the screen. I dont have to keep adjusting the viewed > image size, it just views automatically. Because of that, IRFANVIEW is > NOT my default viewer.   Two things - 1) It's in the plugins, which is a separate download, to view PDF files. I use it quite routinely when W/Os I do for companies as a "contingent work force provider" are required to be JPGs not my standard PDFs. This will also allow you to open a PDF, save it as a JPG, PNG, or what not; and open a TIF, JPG, PNG, whatnot and ... save it as a PDF.   2) Ahem. View --> Display Options --> Fit only big images to display window. Your complaint is solved. (What? Been like that since version 2.sumpin', and I'm currently using 4.4 .)   Not saying ACDSee is any worse, mind you! It might be fantstically better. But Irfanview has been my go-to of choice since, well, the 90's at least. At least partly due to how powerful it is with its filtering (which is required less and less; my current GE point/n/click does a good enough job I don't have to fix the images anymore.)   RwP

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