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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Jun 07 10:50AM -0400 Jeff Liebermann wrote on 6/6/2017 11:31 PM: > batteries should gracefully lose some percentage of their rated > capacity after the expiration date, and not belch electrolyte all over > the package and whatever they're powering.   I'm surprised that you would not see the problem here. If you bought milk with an expiration date of Tuesday, would you complain that the milk went sour on the Friday after? Batteries contain corrosive chemicals and are guarantied to leak if you let them sit long enough. Two years past expiration date doesn't sound like a lot, but you can't say it is the battery's fault.   BTW, if you check around you will find dated alkaline batteries are typically dated for a 10 year shelf life. So you likely bought that pack in 2004 or 2005. The article you cite talks about 2024 dated batteries and the article date is 2014.     > <http://www.paulallenengineering.com/blog/kirkland-signature-alkaline-batteries> > Read through the first few reader comments on Duracell and Kirkland > batteries.   I see a lot of applesauce. "Duracell "AA" and "AAA" alkaline batteries consistently leak at a 20 - 30% failure rate from packages no older than 4 months." So if I buy a pack of 48 cells, I should see leakage in 10 of them in 4 months? I've never seen a Kirkland cell leak and I've bought some half dozen packs, not counting the 9 volt batteries.     >> It leaks in an expensive gizmo and that is that.   > It's my understanding that the warranty is still in place, but that > it's more difficult to obtain compensation for damage.   I think the only way to tell is to try. Did you contact Duracell about any leaking cells?     > rechargeable LSD NiMH, which also leak, but leak less. Or, if > possible, but devices powered by LiIon batteries, which leak and self > discharge even less than NiMH and alkaline.   The issue is not leakage, but premature leakage. I've had two devices impacted by leaking alkaline batteries. One was clearly not left in a device past it's date because it was a clock that ran until the battery failed and the cell was dated so Duracell paid for it. I don't recall the other so much. It was a much less expensive item and the battery was a Rayovac. Their warranty required the return of the clock to them for examination and possible repair.   --   Rick C

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Jun 07 02:41PM +0100 On 06/06/2017 18:16, N_Cook wrote: > I scraped back some of that typical dusty grey coating of the "MO" and > it is actually wire wound   A genuine maker and seller of 0.1R, 2W w/w resitors would wind them with nichrome wire that could carry 4.5 amp current continuously but a genuine 5W version , he would use wire that would have to carry 7.1 amp continuously

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jun 07 05:49AM -0700 ohg...@gmail.com wrote:   ------------------------   Newgene McMensa wrote:     > > > Melrose Park, PA   > > Don't feed the troll.   > Peter a troll?   ** Absofuckinglootely.       > He may be a bit lefty loony,     ** Plain loony and I do not give a hoot about his politics.     > but he's a gentleman     ** Ooooohhh nooooo he isn't.   Wieck is a prize, bullshitting, narcissistic, POS fuckhead.   There is not stupid idea he will not attach himself too and no honest one he will not mindlessly attack.   He's a sociopath, like YOU !!!   But much worse.         .... Phil

ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 07 06:38AM -0700 On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 8:49:37 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:     >and no honest one he will not mindlessly attack.   Classic case of the pot calling the kettle "black".       > He's a sociopath, like YOU !!!   > But much worse.   Well shit Phil, I'm going to take that as a compliment!!

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jun 07 03:58AM -0700 thekma...@gmail.com wrote:     ----------------------------------     > Will you two get a room and take it > off this newsgroup please?!?   > Ave Maria....!   ** Very uncool to blaspheme like that.   If anyone attacks me on a NG -   THAT is business for the NG.   And TROLLS like you can go fuck yourself.           ..... Phil

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