| Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Jan 11 10:44AM -0600 >>> Bear in mind that Fox' Mercantile is the utter moron Snit >> Wrong again you ignorant cunt. > Could you repeat this message? I only have three of them. :-) As you wish... On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:53:36 -0600, Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net> wrote: -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Jan 11 04:44PM > I just supplied a quote that says only Apple iPhones "begin to fall apart > after a year" Blogger opinions aren't facts, and you haven't provided any factual data showing that iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year" either, because it doesn't exist. > Basically, you must logically *halve* any benchmark for an iPhone, if you > plan to own an iPhone for more than a year. Untrue, as anyone who has owned iPhones for longer than a year knows well. Troll, troll, troll your boat... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
| Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>: Jan 11 10:11AM -0700 On 1/11/18, 8:09 AM, in article p37umi$205$1@gioia.aioe.org, "Harry Newton" >> +IBw-You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled >> to your own facts.+IB0- > Bear in mind that Fox' Mercantile is the utter moron Snit, You recently asked for an example of your lies. This is one. Trivial to quote. Now you might claim I cannot prove I am NOT someone else. Well, sure, but you have absolutely no basis for your accusation... no reason to think it is true because it is not true. It is a lie on your part. Period. You have been caught lying. Again. > who is again, > lamely following people around the net like the little retard child he is. You are the one who repeatedly brings up my name... actively seeking to get my attention. So, again, your claim about me is a lie. Your lies are very easy to quote! > This is a moving graph of what Snit/Fox's Mercantile claimed was dB! > <http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifi_sweetspots.jpg> I made no such claim. Your accusation about me is a lie. > Proof that Snit/Fox's Mercantile is an utter moron Apple Apologist: > <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> > Snit === Fox's Mercantile Another of your lies. You lie non-stop. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> |
| Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>: Jan 11 10:12AM -0700 On 1/11/18, 8:52 AM, in article bPudnRRD_vvWFcrHnZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com, "Fox's Mercantile" > On 1/11/18 9:09 AM, Harry Newton wrote: >> Bear in mind that Fox' Mercantile is the utter moron Snit > Wrong again you ignorant cunt. Not just wrong... but given that he has no basis for this claim it is an out and out lie. Harry has AGAIN been caught lying. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> |
| Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>: Jan 11 10:12AM -0700 On 1/11/18, 8:50 AM, in article bPudnRVD_vtPGsrHnZ2dnUU7-VXNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Fox's Mercantile" > Unlike you, I do not hide behind an anonymous name that changes > constantly. > Although I'm touched that you find it necessary to attack me. I have posted as Snit since at least 1995. Harry is, again, simply lying. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> |
| Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>: Jan 11 10:13AM -0700 On 1/11/18, 9:15 AM, in article qb3f5dddra0v0km4sr8a7kgbipjhmkdreb@4ax.com, >>> Bear in mind that Fox' Mercantile is the utter moron Snit >> Wrong again you ignorant cunt. > Could you repeat this message? I only have three of them. :-) He is merely responding to Harry's lies, which are repeated far more than just three times. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM > Then: > 1. What's your complaint? > 2. Why are you posting to an iPhone newsgroup? I have purchased *plenty* of iOS devices, and I support rickman and even Carlos E.R. for *caring* about what Apple does to their customers. Even if we didn't own iOS devices, we know people who do, whom we care about. The US Government technical committee recently said they care about what Apple did to its customers in that they asked Apple to answer the same 8 questions we *all* have. Sen. John Thune asks Apple CEO Tim Cook the same questions we would. <https://www.cnet.com/news/us-senator-questions-apple-about-slowing-down-older-iphones/> So did European government bodies: U.S., French Officials Question Apple Over iPhone Battery Slowdowns <https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-french-officials-question-apple-over-iphone-battery-slowdowns-1515545073> You don't have to literally own an iOS device to care that Apple is fucking its customers up the ass. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3nvmk/apple-iphone-throttling-right-to-repair "If Apple were serious about battery life, they'd market battery replacements," Gay Gordon-Byrne, executive director of Repair.org, told me in an email. "Apple clearly has a big financial benefit when people decide their phones are too slow and head to the Apple Store for a new phone." "Apple is consistently doing things like this without the consent of their customers," Oberdick said. "It's always a move that makes the consumer who is not informed or technologically savvy replace their phone." The problem with you half-dozen or so fundamentalist Apple Apologists is that facts shake the very core of your fact-free religiously fundamentalist belief system about Apple behavior: *Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.* |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:52:42 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > Wrong again you ignorant cunt. Why is it that the Apple Apologists resort to patently untrue insults whenever confronted with items that shake their belief system? To wit, I have multiple higher degrees, and I don't have a vagina. :) |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM On 11 Jan 2018 16:38:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Only Apple iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year". > It must be true, y'all - he read it on the INTARWEBS. You deny facts like a religious zealot denies evolution. Yet, you never supply a *single* fact that supports your point of view? Why is it that you deny facts outright that don't fit into your belief system? It's usually the ill-educated who fall prey to fundamentalist belief systems sans nary a single fact to support their point of view. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3nvmk/apple-iphone-throttling-right-to-repair "Apple is consistently doing things like this without the consent of their customers," Oberdick said. "It's always a move that makes the consumer who is not informed or technologically savvy replace their phone." |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM On 11 Jan 2018 16:44:27 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > Blogger opinions aren't facts, and you haven't provided any factual data > showing that iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year" either, because > it doesn't exist. As a religious fundamentalist denies evolution, you deny any fact that shakes the very foundation of your Apple Apologists belief system. There are literally hundreds of references saying what I said, which is that many of the affected iPhones degrades measurably within a year such that Apple was forced to drastically throttle the CPU speed (to less than half the original speeds) in order to "prolong the life of the device". All the major Android manufacturers are on record that they don't do what Apple did to their customers and that they never would do that to their customers. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/28/16825288/htc-motorola-dont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple "Apple didn't make it clear that replacing an iPhone's battery could resolve this issue and improve performance. The company doesn't make it particularly easy to replace batteries, either. And more importantly, it could have designed phones that didn't need these guardrails just a year after their release, which is arguably the bigger issue." Those are quoted *facts* which have been referenced many times. While those actual facts shake your fundamentalist belief system, they are still facts, even if you don't like facts that don't fit into your religious zeal. If you feel those facts are wrong, why can't you ever provide a *single* reliable reference that backs up your point of view? |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:50:41 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > Unlike you, I do not hide behind an anonymous name that changes > constantly. > Although I'm touched that you find it necessary to attack me. You are Snit. You add zero value and you hunt around the Internet following people just so that you can post vitriol filled hateful posts, just like you did with this video which you trolled over 400 times alone! <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo> You made a fool of yourself then, and you're making a fool of yourself now. Here's your challenge: Q: Can you possibly add on-topic technical value to this thread? A: ? |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 05:28PM On 11 Jan 2018 16:42:09 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: >> only Apple iPhone batteries consistently fail within a year > Untrue. You don't like the fact that many Apple iPhones greatly degrade in a year. As a religious fundamentalist denies evolution, you outright deny any fact that shakes the very foundation of your Apple Apologists belief system. I provide direct quotes supporting my factual statements: https://gizmodo.com/now-the-senate-wants-answers-about-apples-iphone-thrott-1821975549 "Apple could have also avoided this issue by designing phones with bigger batteries that don't degrade as quickly or making it easier to replace them. Other phone companies including HTC and Motorola have insisted they don't throttle their phones." Where is your direct quote supporting your fundamentalist belief system? |
| sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>: Jan 11 09:39AM -0800 On 1/11/2018 7:09 AM, Harry Newton wrote: > https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/20/16803190/iphone-slowdown-is-needed-but-also-a-problem > "Apple is knowingly designing and selling products that > begin to fall apart after a year" The more relevant part of that article is this: "Even just making it clear to people that replacing their battery will meaningfully improve their phone could go a long way." In fact, this is a big advantage of the iPhone over the plethora of Android phones where new batteries, not NOS (new-old-stock), are not available for more than a year or two. Few people would have been upset if a battery health monitor displayed a message advising the owner to get a new battery to ensure top performance. Would that have resulted in fewer new iPhone sales or would it have caused people to upgrade rather than spend $79 on a new battery? |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Jan 11 12:49PM -0500 In article <p387g7$7ge$1@dont-email.me>, sms > The more relevant part of that article is this: "Even just making it > clear to people that replacing their battery will meaningfully improve > their phone could go a long way." except that most of the time, it won't improve anything because the existing battery is perfectly fine. |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Jan 11 05:53PM >>> Only Apple iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year". >> It must be true, y'all - he read it on the INTARWEBS. > You deny facts You haven't posted any facts, all you post are links to blogger opinion pieces devoid of factual data. > Yet, you never supply a *single* fact that supports your point of view? That would be you. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Jan 11 05:53PM >> showing that iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year" either, because >> it doesn't exist. > As a religious fundamentalist blah blah blah Blogger opinions aren't facts, and you haven't provided any factual data showing that iPhones "begin to fall apart after a year" either, because it doesn't exist. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Jan 11 05:53PM >>> only Apple iPhone batteries consistently fail within a year >> Untrue. > I provide direct quotes Blogger opinion pieces aren't facts. Try harder. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:12PM On 10 Jan 2018 17:22:08 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > being impacted to mitigate the problems of a battery that is degrading > prematurely in order to avoid warranty replacements", the onus is on > you. So go right ahead and prove that's the case, if you can. The user experience is *definitely* impacted when the phones shut down. How can you say that it doesn't impact them when their year-old device shuts down, in cold weather especially? What world do you Apple Apologist fundamentalists live in that has a fundamental belief system that negates the very *huge* issue that caused Apple to secretly, permanently, and drastically throttle CPU performance to less than half the claimed speeds? <https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/28/16825288/htc-motorola-dont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple> "Apple said it introduced this behavior last year, for the iPhone 6, 6S, and SE, as a way to prevent random shutdowns" of year old phones. <https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/20/16803190/iphone-slowdown-is-needed-but-also-a-problem> "Apple is knowingly designing and selling products that begin to fall apart after a year." |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:12PM >>How can you make that assertion? > Because I've followed it starting with IOS 10.1 that explained what > they were doing. What's odd is that the half-dozen or so Apple Apologists seem to be the only ones who assert that Apple told their customers about the fact that they would slow down phones permanently to about half the original speeds, after about a year of use. It seems that facts shake the very foundation of the half-dozen or so Apple Apologists' belief system: *Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.* What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0%5B1-25%5D> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/28/16825288/htc-motorola-dont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple "Apple didn't make it clear that replacing an iPhone's battery could resolve this issue and improve performance. The company doesn't make it particularly easy to replace batteries, either. And more importantly, it could have designed phones that didn't need these guardrails just a year after their release, which is arguably the bigger issue." |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:12PM On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:17:00 -0600, Ant wrote: > control. I wonder how much longer I can keep using it before replacing > it or its battery (probably not worth it since its iOS is so old, slow, > and unsupported). There are ways to check if Apple secretly throttled the CPU on your phone. How to check if Apple is throttling your iPhone <http://dsniggas.net/2018/01/04/have-a-slow-iphone-how-to-check-if-apple-is-throttling-your-iphone/> From what Apple stated, it's only the iPhone 6's and 7's, and perhaps the 8's, and X'x that appareciably degrade in about a year such that they're forced to halve the CPU to "prolong the life of the device". Unfortunately for Apple, most European warranties appear to be two years for the whole device (which I believe includes the batteries). Hence, government bodies are asking Apple some pointed questions: U.S., French Officials Question Apple Over iPhone Battery Slowdowns <https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-french-officials-question-apple-over-iphone-battery-slowdowns-1515545073> The governments gave Apple weeks to answer those 8 simple questions, so we likely won't know their answer to the most important questions that everyone would have until the deadline has arrived on January 23rd. |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:12PM On 10 Jan 2018 18:13:53 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > You don't even own an iPhone. Even if we didn't own iOS devices, we know people who do, whom we care about, and whom we want to know that Apple is fucking them up the ass. The US Government technical committee recently said they care about what Apple did to its customers in that they asked Apple to answer the same 8 questions we *all* have. Sen. John Thune asks Apple CEO Tim Cook the same questions we would. <https://www.cnet.com/news/us-senator-questions-apple-about-slowing-down-older-iphones/> So did European government bodies: U.S., French Officials Question Apple Over iPhone Battery Slowdowns <https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-french-officials-question-apple-over-iphone-battery-slowdowns-1515545073> You don't have to literally own an iOS device to care that Apple is fucking its customers up the ass. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3nvmk/apple-iphone-throttling-right-to-repair "If Apple were serious about battery life, they'd market battery replacements," Gay Gordon-Byrne, executive director of Repair.org, told me in an email. "Apple clearly has a big financial benefit when people decide their phones are too slow and head to the Apple Store for a new phone." "Apple is consistently doing things like this without the consent of their customers," Oberdick said. "It's always a move that makes the consumer who is not informed or technologically savvy replace their phone." The problem with you half-dozen or so fundamentalist Apple Apologists is that facts shake the very core of your belief system about Apple behavior: *Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.* |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:14PM On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:01:09 -0500, rickman wrote: > No one would tolerate this from any manufacturer. While this is true, the facts shake the fundamental belief system of the half-dozen or so Apple Apologists you are dealing with. They deny out of hand even that Apple already admitted. What is wrong with the Apple Apologists that they deny even what Apple admitted? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/fyL1cQUVCp0%5B1-25%5D> You're not dealing with normal adults. *Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.* You're dealing with a half dozen ill-educated adults who have a fundamental belief system mired in incessant fabrication of imaginary functionality: Why do the Apple Apologists deny facts & habitually fabricate imaginary content? <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/eRTC23FyVDY> |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:14PM On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:06:58 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > Damn,you're an ignorant cunt. Snit - try to add technical on-topic value for once in your life. Let's see, from your very next post, whether you're even *capable* of adding on-topic technical value to this thread. |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:14PM On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:44:58 -0500, rickman wrote: >> Damn,you're an ignorant cunt. > It's hard to reason with that sort of argument. Rickman, There are a half-dozen ill-educated fundamentalist Apple Apologists: *Jolly Roger, Lewis, nospam, BKonRamp, Savageduck, Hemidactylus, etc.* The one you just responded to is just Snit by another nym. Two of them add value sometimes, namely nospam & Savageduck. The rest *never* add value, and two of them become filled with hateful ignorant childish vitriol the moment you challenge their fundamentalist fact-free belief system: Snit & Jolly Roger (and Lewis to a much lesser extent). If you don't believe me ... just watch what they post. I only speak fact. |
| Harry Newton <harryne_wton@AlliOSusersJustGiveUp.com>: Jan 11 06:14PM On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:02:42 -0500, nospam wrote: > the batteries work perfectly fine in normal everyday use. Which is why the iPhones suddenly shut down in use. |
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