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oldschool@tubes.com: Jan 13 03:29PM -0600 My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it.   Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches?   Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer.   So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days.   So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine).

Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Jan 13 04:53PM -0500 > USB and infared these days.   > So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The > other mouse functions work fine).   Walmart has a USB mouse for $4.79 USD

Mary-Jane Rottencrotch <usenet@buttocks.local>: Jan 13 01:59PM -0800 > Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and > want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB > mouse on my Windows 98 computer.   Does it not have USB ports? Disregarding the utter ridiculousness of still using Windows 98 in 2018, it supports USB just fine (since Windows 95 OSR 2.1, around 1997 - 21 years ago nearly).       > So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The > other mouse functions work fine).   Well what sort of switch is it? The crystal ball is a bit cloudy on this one.

Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll>: Jan 13 11:09PM +0100 > USB and infared these days.   > So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The > other mouse functions work fine).   I have replaced some of those switches in a few mice. The electronic lab had them in stock. So somebody is selling them. Try google...... Yep. try mouse microswitch in picture mode. The tiny square ones are inside most mice.

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Jan 13 02:09PM -0800 On Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:59:49 UTC, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch wrote:   > Does it not have USB ports? Disregarding the utter ridiculousness of > still using Windows 98 in 2018, it supports USB just fine (since Windows > 95 OSR 2.1, around 1997 - 21 years ago nearly).   98 usb support is not ideal, though it works adequately with nusb3.1 installed. The point is that USB mice are not readable by 98 era machines until the OS has booted and loaded the USB driver. P/S2 & D9 mice are superior in this respect.     > > other mouse functions work fine).   > Well what sort of switch is it? The crystal ball is a bit cloudy on this > one.   Yes, either open the switch and clean the contacts or replace it. And always have a spare mouse, they never last forever. FWIW with ball mice, the earlier D9 ones generally work much better IME.     NT

oldschool@tubes.com: Jan 13 04:50PM -0600 On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:53:13 -0500, Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net> wrote:     >> So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The >> other mouse functions work fine).   >Walmart has a USB mouse for $4.79 USD   You get a "F" for reading comprehension. :)   I SAID: I need a PS/2 mouse. I probably have 4 USB mice, which are not suitable for my needs.   I did just find they make adaptors, to convert a USB mouse to PS/2. I ordered one on ebay for about $3. But until I get it, I have to keep fighting with this mouse, which works fine for awhile, then refuses to do anything till I beat the crap out of that button a dozen times or more.....   Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice.... I'll probably buy several of them, if they have any PS/2 ones. Seems that are getting hard to find....   I never understood the reasoning for USB mice or keyboards. Many computers only have 2 USB ports. Why waste them for a mouse or keyboard when there are PS/2 ports.... One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Jan 13 05:16PM -0600 > Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice....   Predominately PS/2 mice and keyboards.   > had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I > had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently > these are more "Designed by idiots" products.   You do know they make USB hubs right?     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Jan 13 03:38PM -0800 > USB and infared these days.   > So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The > other mouse functions work fine).   The switch inside is called a tact-switch and these are readily available and can be installed easily by anyone with soldering skills. The switches themselves are not "cleanable" typically. In most cases the small metal diaphragm gets fatigued and won't work properly. These switches usually cost less than $1   Dan

rickman <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com>: Jan 13 06:43PM -0500 > USB and infared these days.   > So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The > other mouse functions work fine).   I don't mean to pick on you, but there are so many things wrong with this post.   Hey, I have a 91 year old friend who is blind and can't use his Windows 98 computer anymore. If you want it, its yours for the shipping. It includes a wired ball mouse I'm sure. Heck, I probably have a few of those around here if I dig a bit.   Oh yeah, they make PS/2 to USB adapters. They are maybe a buck.   --   Rick C   Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998

rickman <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com>: Jan 13 06:45PM -0500 > and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I > had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these > are more "Designed by idiots" products.   By "many computers" you mean many computers running Windows 98, right? My laptop has four USB Ports. I don't think I've seen one that has less than three in the last 10 years.   --   Rick C   Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998

Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Jan 13 08:57PM -0500 > and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I > had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these > are more "Designed by idiots" products.   I never even considered that would be a problem. I guess it was for you. Sorry I was of no help. You have antique equipment and just thought you could make use of modern available devices.

Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Jan 13 09:31PM -0500 On 1/13/2018 6:43 PM, rickman wrote: > includes a wired ball mouse I'm sure.  Heck, I probably have a few of > those around here if I dig a bit.   > Oh yeah, they make PS/2 to USB adapters.  They are maybe a buck.   It's just another BS post from this AH.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Jan 13 08:57PM -0600 On 1/13/18 8:31 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:   > It's just another BS post from this AH.   Ayup.     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Jan 13 10:01PM -0500 On 1/13/2018 9:57 PM, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > On 1/13/18 8:31 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:   >> It's just another BS post from this AH.   > Ayup.   It's not my nature to say these things Jeff but I'm a little off my game today.

Rheilly Phoull <froggins@iinet.net.au>: Jan 14 11:09AM +0800 On 14/01/2018 7:16 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote: >> had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently >> these are more "Designed by idiots" products.   > You do know they make USB hubs right?   Cue to question from yesteryear "What's hub and will it work on my win98?"

Mad Roger <rogermadd@yahoo.com>: Jan 13 05:31PM On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 22:45:47 +1100, Xeno wrote:   > All the while thinking, "*Who is this nutcase?*".   Xeno the troll.   How much on-topic technical value have you added to *any* thread.   In your *entire* life?   Zero!   Why?   Xeno the troll can't comprehend the topic. Nor can Xeno the troll add any technical value.   Why?   Xeno the troll is too stupid to add any value to any topic whatsoever.   Just watch. Xeno the troll proves he's incapable of even *comprehending* the technical topic by his every response.   Xeno the troll will respond with more non-technical worthless blather. Just watch.

Mary-Jane Rottencrotch <usenet@buttocks.local>: Jan 13 12:29PM -0800 On 2018-01-11 06:46, Mad Roger wrote: > I agree that there are *many* factors in the act of slowing down a vehicle > with brake friction material heating up causing a loss of the energy of > momentum.   Bollox bollox bollox.   Momentum and energy are quite different quantities, if you want to play properly at being a scientist.

"BurfordTJustice" <burford/associate@uk.MI15>: Jan 13 03:33PM -0500 The real question who in the hell fucking cares??       "Mary-Jane Rottencrotch" <usenet@buttocks.local> wrote in message news:YqCdnX0mlYGk8cfHnZ2dnUU7-eudnZ2d@supernews.com... : On 2018-01-11 06:46, Mad Roger wrote: : > I agree that there are *many* factors in the act of slowing down a vehicle : > with brake friction material heating up causing a loss of the energy of : > momentum. : > : : Bollox bollox bollox. : : Momentum and energy are quite different quantities, if you want to play : properly at being a scientist.

Mary-Jane Rottencrotch <usenet@buttocks.local>: Jan 13 12:39PM -0800 On 2018-01-11 12:09, Mad Roger wrote: > other than the friction rating of the pads themselves.   > That's a hard logical pill to swallow, for me, which is why I asked here, > hoping the s.e.r folks can enlighten us as to why.   Whats the stupid fixation with the coefficient of friction anyway?   As any fule kno, friction is notionally independent of contact area, and force due to friction is determined by the coefficient of friction *and the applied force* so if you want more frictional force, you just need to press the pedal harder, or have more servo assistance.   Simply ignoring all of the other (engineering) considerations which have been cited, relating to brake performance in the real world, will not help you be enlightened about anything. It just makes you look like a dumb fuck trying to be cleverer than your brain permits.

Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca>: Jan 13 04:34PM -0500 On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 08:08:03 -0000 (UTC), Mad Roger >decision-making data from the DOT Edge Code.   >Of course, if you miraculously find two pads with the same DOT Edge Code, >then there's a 100% chance that it's the same friction material.     UNLESS it's counterfeit (admitedly likely less than 1% chance - until it is - - - -

Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca>: Jan 13 04:38PM -0500 On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:39:51 -0800, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch >been cited, relating to brake performance in the real world, will not >help you be enlightened about anything. It just makes you look like a >dumb fuck trying to be cleverer than your brain permits.     I guess we'll have to give the poor guy a break. I suspect he is a young graduate engineer who has yet to learn how little he knows.

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 13 02:12PM -0800 On 01/13/2018 12:39 PM, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch wrote: > force due to friction is determined by the coefficient of friction *and > the applied force* so if you want more frictional force, you just need > to press the pedal harder, or have more servo assistance.   Yu kleerly paid atenshun to Sigismund the Mad Maths Master! Matron would be pleesed.   -- Cheers, Bev "What fresh hell is this?" -- Dorothy Parker

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 13 10:11AM -0800 On 01/13/2018 12:08 AM, rickman wrote:   > I don't know what an IOL is. Should I know that? I know what an IOU is.   IntraOcular Lens. Yes, if you're discussing cataracts you should know that.     -- Cheers, Bev "Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Klingon, because life is also terrifying and confusing." -- D. Moore

rickman <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com>: Jan 13 03:37PM -0500 The Real Bev wrote on 1/13/2018 1:11 PM: > On 01/13/2018 12:08 AM, rickman wrote:   >> I don't know what an IOL is. Should I know that? I know what an IOU is.   > IntraOcular Lens. Yes, if you're discussing cataracts you should know that.   I know what intraocular lens is. I just don't know the many billions of pointless abbreviations the world uses. Thanks   --   Rick C   Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998

Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Jan 13 01:05PM -0500 Anyone know where I can get a schematic of the control board for a Whitfield Advantage Plus? TIA, Tom

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