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Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: Feb 12 05:56PM In article <jdq28dtpsnjn7ir8ln79n9t6u1teabjq5a@4ax.com>, oldschool@tubes.com says... > drinking a lot of shine.... Luckily his wife ironed his head with a cast > iron frying pan before he damaged too much of his birthday suit. and she > then sent him to bed.   Nice. Like the story about the streaker in the old-folks home. Poor vision just made the on-lookers think his clothes needed pressing...   Mike.

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Feb 12 10:05AM -0800 >You can get 25-50kg resin per tonne of wood pulp, but only from pine. >Spruce gives less. >NT   Yep. I've made my own rosin flux. Lots of instructions online for both paste and liquid flux: <https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+rosin+flux>   However, things went awry when I tried to use my home made flux for reflow soldering a BGA chip. It was too thick and too difficult to clean after resoldering. When I dissolved it in some alcohol to thin out the solution, I had a small fire. It also disappeared long before the solder melted. I ordered "reflow flux" which is designed for reflow soldering, which worked much better: <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=reflow+flux> Such fluxes are either active or mildly active. Such rosin fluxes contain abietic acid <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abietic_acid> which acts as an oxidation inhibitor. Other additives break down when heated and produce hydrochloric acid or ammonia for the same effect. You could mix your own formulation, but I suggest buying the commercial product when dealing with anything that requires temperature control (such as BGA chips) or thorough board cleaning.   -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Feb 12 10:12AM -0800 On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:38:22 -0000, Mike Coon   >What do you put in your steam iron? That's where most of my >distilled/de-ionised water goes... >Mike.   I use tap water and let the lime accumulate until I can see it. Then, a rinse the iron with 75% water and 25% white vinegar. Let the iron get hot, and push some steam through the plumbing. Also, I empty the old water from the iron between uses. <https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+clean+a+steam+iron>   -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Terry Schwartz <tschw10117@aol.com>: Feb 12 12:54PM -0800 It's *almost* not worth it. More than once, when the iron starts spitting out precipitate, we've thrown it away and bought a new one. I've cleaned them too, but it doesn't work 100% and pretty quickly builds up again.   We've bought new irons for as little as $12.   And you get to salvage a nice heavy duty cord for another project.   Distilled water does work really well of course, if you are religious about using it... at 89 cents a gallon I can't see where it adds to the cost of anything. A gallon goes a long way, in an iron or in cleaning electronics.   De-ionized water is a very different animal.

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Feb 12 02:37PM -0800 On Monday, 12 February 2018 20:54:14 UTC, Terry Schwartz wrote:   > And you get to salvage a nice heavy duty cord for another project.   > Distilled water does work really well of course, if you are religious about using it... at 89 cents a gallon I can't see where it adds to the cost of anything. A gallon goes a long way, in an iron or in cleaning electronics.   > De-ionized water is a very different animal.   water from a/c is free     NT

Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>: Feb 13 05:25AM -0800 > > De-ionized water is a very different animal.   > water from a/c is free   > NT   And FULL of nasty biologicals. No thanks.

"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Feb 13 07:41AM -0800 > water from a/c is free   If you are writing of condensate water - that is, perhaps, some of the least 'healthy' water on the planet.   a) It condenses on (mostly) aluminum that is exposed to (typically) 90% return/10% fresh air. The return air is freighted with whatever is in the house/building/whatever that passes through typically very coarse filters. So, dander, dust, bacteria, grease, and whatever virus is in circulation. The fresh air could have very nearly anything in it.   b) Whatever corrosion exists on the fins becomes part of it.   c) And it drains via channels and/or tubes that could be 'growing' in their own right. Even if anti-mold tablets are utilized, *THAt* chemical is no fun either.   Perhaps over-use of condensate water might explain a great deal in your case?   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Feb 13 07:55AM -0800 > a) It condenses on (mostly) aluminum that is exposed to (typically) 90% return/10% fresh air. The return air is freighted with whatever is in the house/building/whatever that passes through typically very coarse filters. So, dander, dust, bacteria, grease, and whatever virus is in circulation. The fresh air could have very nearly anything in it.   > b) Whatever corrosion exists on the fins becomes part of it.   > c) And it drains via channels and/or tubes that could be 'growing' in their own right. Even if anti-mold tablets are utilized, *THAt* chemical is no fun either.   so in summary an ideal water source for irons that boil it in use.     > Perhaps over-use of condensate water might explain a great deal in your case?   I'm not the one engaging in gratiutous insults.     NT

"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Feb 13 08:36AM -0800 > so in summary an ideal water source for irons that boil it in use.   > > Perhaps over-use of condensate water might explain a great deal in your case?   > I'm not the one engaging in gratiutous insults.   No, but that was a question, not an insult - and the need for an answer is clearly demonstrated by your summary. Broadcasting fungicides, concentrated allergens and other nasty stuff not deterred by boiling, much less embedding same in one's clothing seems to me to be a poor practice.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Feb 13 09:46AM -0600 Anyone here running the Asterisk BX with the FreePBX GUI?   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Feb 12 09:31AM -0800 On Sunday, 11 February 2018 18:02:45 UTC, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > expensive Deoxit Pro GX3 is currently available in spray form. Since > every drop is valueable, a proper dispenser would be a blunt needle > tip bottle, not a brush or swab, and certainly not a wasteful spray.   Otology, otorhinolaryngology, otolaryngology, ENT, etc. Please explain how I can add a word that's in my vocabulary to my vocabulary, I can't find that command. I'm running Life 1.0.   Anyone that's been underwater can tell you they hear less. It's obvious enough, since water has way more density than air.     NT

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Feb 12 09:49AM -0800 >Otology, otorhinolaryngology, otolaryngology, ENT, etc. Please >explain how I can add a word that's in my vocabulary to my >vocabulary, I can't find that command. I'm running Life 1.0.   I don't think it's my place to teach you how to learn, but the general procedure is quite simple. Open book, insert face, learn a few new words, use them as much a possible, and hopefully some of them might stick. Writing or typing these new additions to your vocabulary also enhances retention and improves spelling.   >Anyone that's been underwater can tell you they hear less. >It's obvious enough, since water has way more density than air. >NT   I believe that I mentioned that underwater hearing attenuates the high frequency sounds, while still passing most of the low frequency sounds. Moving the eardrum against a mass of water on one side requires more energy. Moving the eardrum slower, at lower frequencies, requires less energy, so some of that is preserved. Either way, spraying Deoxit in your ear isn't going to do anything useful, except maybe loosen some ear wax.       -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

oldschool@tubes.com: Feb 12 01:13PM -0600 On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 09:49:58 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:   >I don't think it's my place to teach you how to learn, but the general >procedure is quite simple. Open book, insert face,   You forgot to mention "OPEN YOUR EYES"....... :)

"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Feb 12 12:05PM -0800 There are approximately 228,000 words in the English Language excluding compounds, jargon, plurals, etc..   Add in all of the above, and that number jumps to just under 1,000,000.   Of the first number, the average American native English speaker has a working vocabulary of about 5,000 words speaking, and about twice that written.   https://www.oxfordonlineenglish.com/english-level-test/vocabulary   Test yourself (the link is one of many) and let us know.   Writing for myself, I grew up with over 5,000 books and no television in the house. I typically max out on these test with a working vocabulary of over 80,000 words undifferentiated between spoken and written. This is not even a little bit a matter of intelligence, simply a matter of early, continued and repeated exposure. I still read, on average, three books per week, in a mix of about 40% mystery (Martha Grimes, Louise Penny), 20% Thriller (Lee Child, Steven King, Dean Koontz) and the rest historical (David McCullough and such).   Words are fascinating. At the same time, both tools and weapons.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

oldschool@tubes.com: Feb 12 02:40PM -0600 On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:05:33 -0800 (PST), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:   >Of the first number, the average American native English speaker has a working >vocabulary of about 5,000 words speaking, and about twice that written.   You wont find that on ebay much of the time. Particularly if the item is in California. Apparenely there are a lot of foreign speaking persons selling on ebay, in CA. who only know ten words in English.   Just recently I asked a CA ebay seller about a part for my car. I gave a detailed description of what I needed, and asked if they would tell me the correct part, if that was the wrong one. (There were 4 possibilities).   The reply I got (3 days later) was: * So sorry it is not fit. *   I bet that used up half of his English vocabulary.....   And did not help me get the correct part.   I ordered from a different seller, which cost $2 more, I phoned and that seller was able and willing to help me get the perfect part and could speak english well, and was friendly to boot.   Good service means a lot to me, and I'll pay a little more to get it.   I'd hate to think what would happen if I got the wrong, or a defective part from that guy who cant speak english... Actually I have had that happen with a few other items, and it became a real hassle...

"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Feb 12 02:19PM -0800 > wrote:   > >Of the first number, the average American native English speaker has a working > >vocabulary of about 5,000 words speaking, and about twice that written.   The saddest part, and I did not go too deeply into it, is that non-American native English speakers tend to have a spoken vocabulary of approximately 12,000 words and a written vocabulary of approximately 42,000 words.   ESL speakers tend to learn 2.5 words per day, for approximately five years after starting to learn English. And they 'start' with roughly 1,000 words. Meaning that they are as good or better (discounting an accent) than the average American in that five years.   Education in this country is abysmal at the elementary and high-school level. And we are paying the price.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: Feb 12 11:52PM In article <5c022dab-6c39-4b71-a1e0-fa88919405d7@googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says...   > Education in this country is abysmal at the elementary and high-school level. And we are paying the price.   > Peter Wieck > Melrose Park, PA   I tried that "vocab" test site you cited. Deeply boring. Just a test of idiomatic simple English (at least for the first 50% - as far as I could be bothered to try!). Certainly not polysyllabic...   Mike.

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Feb 12 05:23PM -0800 On Monday, 12 February 2018 17:50:04 UTC, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > words, use them as much a possible, and hopefully some of them might > stick. Writing or typing these new additions to your vocabulary also > enhances retention and improves spelling.   you've failed to answer the question. You told me to I learn something I already know. How?   > frequencies, requires less energy, so some of that is preserved. > Either way, spraying Deoxit in your ear isn't going to do anything > useful, except maybe loosen some ear wax.   No-one ever said it would be useful, just that it would reduce noise. And it does a bit.     NT

"Ron D." <ron.dozier@gmail.com>: Feb 12 01:27PM -0800 Jeff:   Just did the 350F bake for 8 min for an HP P2015dn printer formatter PCB a few weeks ago. Gas oven. Level. Since there was a report of melting an Ethernet jack, I used 1/2 thick felt to protect it. I also removed the stickers. I did thermocouple the oven and did the overnight "do not disturb" thing after turning the oven off and opening the door. Worked great!

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