Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 23 updates in 2 topics

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Mar 30 07:17PM +0200

On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
 
>> I simply do not like to pay and
>> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
 
> Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
 
Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago :-)
 
My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
secondaries.
 
 
You could use a scoring system: if the posting server is a free one, add
some points. But you need other clues to add points to assure certainty.
For instance, that it is a new name, that it talks a certain way, has
some traits... ;-)
 
 
My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
troll or spammer.
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>: Mar 30 05:53PM

> >> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
 
> > Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
 
> Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago :-)
 
I see.
 
> My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
> leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
> secondaries.
 
NIN failing!? Can't happen! :-) But seriously, I can also use multiple
servers as I have Hamster on my system, i.e. a local, private News
server on Windows, much like leafnode on UNIX/Linux.
 
> some traits... ;-)
 
> My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
> troll or spammer.
 
Yeah, I agree. Same thing as people ruling out posters using Google
Groups (or posters using Linux! :-)).
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>: Mar 30 08:30PM +0200

Am 30.03.18 um 13:56 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
> long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
 
Free and anonymous are not the same. And I did not say all useres of
these servers are trolls but almost all trolls use these servers.
 
A free server but not anonymous would be the following:
 
https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
 
> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
 
That's why I had to put you on my "troll server"-exception list to be
able to read you.
 
Joerg
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>: Mar 30 08:37PM +0200

Am 30.03.18 um 19:17 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
> troll or spammer.
 
Nobody said anything like that.
 
I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
 
news-out.google.com
news.netfront.net and
aioe.org
 
are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
 
Joerg
Tekkie® <Tekkie@comcast.net>: Mar 30 04:21PM -0400

micky posted for all of us...
 
 
> >gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
 
> We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
 
Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
 
--
Tekkie
Ragnusen Ultred <rragnusen@ultred.com>: Mar 30 01:54PM -0700

Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:37:59 +0200, schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
 
> aioe.org
 
> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
 
> Joerg
 
I've been on the Usenet for decades, where I've interacted with the poster
Joerg Lorenz quite a few times, where he has often proven he has the
stunted mental acuity of a child.
 
I only speak facts.
 
Hear me out, as I present the facts, where this Joerg /never/ adds
technical on-topic value to /any/ thread he posts to.
 
All he does is call everyone else a troll.
 
And what does he base his accusations upon?
 
He thinks that the mere fact that someone wants privacy means they're a
troll.
 
I've told him already, in other newsgroups where he trolls his accusations
left and right, that this is like saying all Blacks are criminals, simply
because they're black, all Italians are in the mob, simply because the mob
is comprised of a lot of Italians, all Jews are greedy simply because some
greedy people are Jews, all Germans are racist simply because some Germans
have committed hate crimes, etc.
 
What Joerg fails to understand is that a troll has to troll to be
considered a troll. That simple fact is compltely lost on Joerg, and he'll
never get it - simply because of two facts he's proven time and again.
 
1. He can't add technical on-topic value to /any/ thread topic, and,
2. He considers anyone wanting privacy to be a troll,
(where he's the troll, in actuality).
 
Want proof?
 
This is Joerg's 1st response to an on-topic question in a newsgroup:
"[I have no answer to the question]
I only know the idiot who wants to know it ..."
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/bWXHKhH3AAAJ>
Q: Is it on topic? (Answer = ?)
Q: Does it add value? (Answer = ?)
Q: Is it something the mind of a child would say? (Answer = ?)
 
This is Joerg's 2nd response when responded to by an adult:
"Only anonymous *idiots* are using anonymous news-servers.
Your header: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/xj2X4Wn9AAAJ>
 
This is Joerg's 3rd response when headers were explained to him:
"you are simply a big mouth. "
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/UmK7yflFAQAJ>
 
Joerg's 4th response responding to the proven troll, Frank Slootweg:
"+1"
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/AmUPwr5ZAQAJ>
 
I can go on proving two points but this should be sufficient for adults:
1. Joerg never adds on-topic technical value to any thread, and,
2. Joerg calls everyone else a troll simply because they desire privacy.
 
The adults on this newsgroup don't have to believe me ... where all I ask
is for them to ponder whether those verifiable facts above of about a half
dozen posts plus another half dozen responses trying to explain facts to
Joerg Lorenz (all wasted effort, by the way), added /any/ on-topic
technical value to the thread?
 
So that I'm not guilty of the same childish games that Joerg plays, I've
already proven two points, where I want to once more tell Joerg the
on-topic technical admonition that simply wanting privacy does not make a
person a troll.
 
In fact, Joerg clearly is guilty of exactly what he accuses everyone else
of being, simply because his posts /never/ add any on-topic value to any
thread.
 
Just watch...
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Mar 30 11:24PM +0200

On 2018-03-30 22:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
 
>> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
 
>> Joerg
 
> I've been on the Usenet for decades,
 
No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
 
What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
 
Not reading the rest. EOD.
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Ragnusen Ultred <rragnusen@ultred.com>: Mar 30 02:29PM -0700

Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:24:00 +0200, schrieb Carlos E.R.:
 
 
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
 
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
 
Hi Carlos,
 
Think about how much on-topic technical value your post added.
Was it zero?
 
Think about privacy?
Do you understand privacy?
 
We all know the answer to both questions, if asked of an adult.
 
I posit, therefore, that your logic is that of a child.
 
This appears to be your logic:
A. Because someone desires privacy,
B. Then they are a troll.
 
I simply posit that is not the logic of an adult.
In fact, I posit that your post is a troll.
 
Hence, I posit, you just acted just like a troll acts in that your post
added zero on-topic technical value to the thread.
"Ron D." <ron.dozier@gmail.com>: Mar 30 02:43PM -0700

A spring will work nicely, I think. Been using one on mom's nebulizer hose for a while now. I had an easy way to attach the end (small hole). It's kept the hose from kinking. I got one that was a few feet long and cut it.
Tim <onelydad58@gmail.com>: Mar 30 09:45PM

=?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= <Tekkie@comcast.net> wrote in
>> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to
>> use.
 
> Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
 
Actually, I just make sure that the USB cables I buy have good built-in
strain reliefs.
 
If you are really serious about making your own, there is tape that you
can buy that is impregnated with resin. One version sets by itself the
package is opened. One uses water to activate setting, and one uses UV to
set the resin. And thee is also the self-adhering/fusing tape that
basically melts together when it is wrapped under tension. Take your
pick.
83LowRider <none@none.com>: Mar 30 05:52PM -0400

On 3/29/2018 11:22 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
 
> thing!
 
> Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
> thrown away over the years! LOL
 
:)
micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>: Mar 31 02:24AM +0300

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:27:51 +0100, Chris Green
>> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
 
>Yes, well specify 3:1 or 4:1 heatshrink then, 3:1 is very easy to find
>and 4:1 is certainly available.
 
i'VE NOTICED that mine is about 2:1. It's not marked or labeled, and I
buy the cheapest stuff I can find, so it woudn't go over a usb plug and
shrink to fit the cable.
micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>: Mar 31 02:27AM +0300

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:14:56 +0200, "Carlos
 
>On 2018-03-27 01:27, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
 
>Nothing. I simply handle them with care.
 
Me too.
 
>None of my cables broke in that part. Two failed at the pins.
 
I don't think I use them as much as some of you but none have failed. I
have AC extension cords that go back I think 50 years, certainly 40..
In a couple, the rubber cracked and I couldn't save them, but other
rubber has lasted. Most of my stuff never breaks.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>: Mar 31 01:38AM +0200

Am 30.03.18 um 23:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
 
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
 
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
 
+1
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>: Mar 31 12:43PM

> On 2018-03-30 22:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
[...]
> > I've been on the Usenet for decades,
 
> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
 
Not only that, nobody has been on "the Usenet", ever. Likewise, there
are no "nntp headers".
 
Making these kinds of errors and claiming to be an expert, shows that
- also in this area - he severely suffers from Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
 
Yes, it's kind of pathetic that someone who is a netabuser in so many
areas, claims to be a Usenet expert and tries to teach *others* lessons,
even on Netiquette for crying out loud.
 
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
 
[This area has been left blank for Mr. EMAK's whingeing about people not
"adding value" to 'his' thread, while he already got the answer to his
troll#####question, but does not like it.]
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Mar 31 03:28PM +0200

On 2018-03-30 23:29, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
 
> I posit, therefore, that your logic is that of a child.
 
> This appears to be your logic:
> A. Because someone desires privacy, B. Then they are a troll.
 
Huh, no. You protect privacy by not using your real name, then sticking
to it like a man. Stand by your values and what you say by using the
same alias for ever.
 
Anybody that wants can track you name changes back in time. I have a
list of yours, and signal all your posts. It severs no purpose your name
changing - it just annoys people. For a short time you may fool us, then
we suspect, and finally we are sure. Thus you name changing does not
protect your privacy. Don't lie.
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Mar 31 03:29PM +0200

On 2018-03-30 20:30, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
 
>> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
 
> That's why I had to put you on my "troll server"-exception list to be
> able to read you.
 
Thankyou :-)
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
M.Joshi <M.Joshi.150430d8@diybanter.com>: Mar 30 06:49PM +0100

Hi,
 
I'm trying to repair a meter that has had a couple of AA batteries leak.
I've noticed that the leaking electrolyte from the battery over-time
has found its way to the power input solder wire connections on the PCB.
 
 
Could the electrolyte migrate via the wires from the battery terminals
to the PCB connections? The wires are fairly long.
 
 
 
 
--
M.Joshi
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Mar 30 11:36AM -0700

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:58:52 PM UTC-4, M.Joshi wrote:
> to the PCB connections? The wires are fairly long.
 
> --
> M.Joshi
 
Yes, it will. Leaking electrolyte will propagate along any current path as long as it remains active. Further, some electrolytes are volatile under certain conditions, so they can migrate as a vapor.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Terry Schwartz <tschw10117@aol.com>: Mar 30 11:37AM -0700

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 12:58:52 PM UTC-5, M.Joshi wrote:
> to the PCB connections? The wires are fairly long.
 
> --
> M.Joshi
 
Liquids can wick thru stranded wire just like water thru a straw. I've seen it many times on vehicle wire harnesses. Usually at one end there is a sealed PCB enclosure that is creating a vacuum with temperature changes.
M.Joshi <M.Joshi.150451a8@diybanter.com>: Mar 30 09:09PM +0100

Thanks for the replies.
 
I have seen some videos that reccommend using white vinegar to clean the
dried battery electrolyte.
 
Is there a better cleaner to use?
 
I assume it's probably a good idea to replace the battery wires as the
strands are likely corroded?
 
 
 
 
--
M.Joshi
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Mar 30 02:12PM -0700

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 4:18:52 PM UTC-4, M.Joshi wrote:
 
> --
> M.Joshi
 
 
 
Nothing I have ever found removes battery corrosion better than plain old tap water. Once it's clean, then you can neutralize the pH based on what kind of batteries leaked.
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Mar 30 02:21PM -0700

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-7, M.Joshi wrote:
 
> I have seen some videos that reccommend using white vinegar to clean the
> dried battery electrolyte.
 
> Is there a better cleaner to use?
 
Copper and lead make acetates, which means the vinegar will slightly
etch them; if you use vinegar, clean and rinse well afterward. Inspect
the copper carefully, printed circuit copper is thin to begin with.
 
Vinegar is a neutralizer for alkaline battery leakage (and NiCd, NiMH). Not
a great idea for acid chemistries (like gel cells or LeClanche carbon/zinc).
Soapy water, rinse, finish with isopropanol is my usual cleanup regimen.
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