Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 2 topics

Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid>: May 29 08:08PM

> it is necessary to unplug the power from the gateway, remove the
> battery for about 15 seconds, plug the battery back in, plug the power
> back in, and watch the lights come sloooooowly back on.
 
Watched to local news last night, anyone following their instructions
will *reset* his router to the defaults.
 
See the "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect" for further details.
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: May 29 09:39PM

On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:08:37 +0000, Jerry Peters wrote:
 
 
>> Thanks to media attention, the FBI has provided me with a busy day or
>> two. According to the press release, we're expected to reboot every
>> router to flush out the malware the evil Russians have installed:
 
I'm not bothered if the Russians hack my route (as if!) - there's far
worse than them out there.
 
 
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Fred Smith <fredsmith@thejanitor.corp>: May 29 10:24PM

>>> router to flush out the malware the evil Russians have installed:
 
> I'm not bothered if the Russians hack my route (as if!) - there's far
> worse than them out there.
 
All the weekly attempts to log into my server traceroute back to
China, not Russia. I suppose it could be those fiendishly clever
Russians spoofing, of course.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: May 29 03:53PM -0700

On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:08:37 -0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters
>> back in, and watch the lights come sloooooowly back on.

>Watched to local news last night, anyone following their instructions
>will *reset* his router to the defaults.
 
Yep. That's because the average reporter or announcer doesn't know
the difference between reboot, reset, restart, power cycle, cold boot,
hot boot, etc. Little surprise because the older computahs had a
button labeled "reset" that did a "reboot". However, when the button
moved to modems and routers, it did both a reset (wipe all settings),
and a reboot (restart the OS). I partly solved the problem by
covering the hole with a round label inscribed with "$35" which is
what it will cost them to have me drive over to their office and put
Humpty Dumpty back together again.
 
Of course, nothing happens without a suitable conspiracy theory. In
this case, I must ask why the FBI insisted that everyone reset their
routers when only a few models are susceptible. Also, ISP's like
AT&T, can easily reboot their customers routers using SNMP. My
initial guess was that the FBI thought it better to be sure than sorry
when dealing with credential sniffing malware. However, the FBI has
never been known for such lofty sentiments. My guess(tm) is that this
may well be the first technical action in recent memory that the FBI
has performed mostly correctly. They may need the good publicity it
brings to compensate for the general impression of gross incompetence
demonstrated by the Apple iPhone unlocking fiasco.
 
Unfortunately, my prediction of personal economic enrichment may have
been premature. National Reboot Your Router Day has produced only two
paying service calls and a few unprofitable phone calls and emails.
Very disappointing. Still, I predict additional press releases in the
future by the FBI to remind us that we're being successfully protected
from the machinations of the Russians.
 
>See the "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect" for further details.
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect>
 
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: May 29 04:30PM -0700

On Tue, 29 May 2018 22:24:29 +0000 (UTC), Fred Smith
>>>> router to flush out the malware the evil Russians have installed:
 
>> I'm not bothered if the Russians hack my route (as if!) - there's far
>> worse than them out there.
 
No need to hack your own route. Just use the "route" command to
direct your packets to whever you want:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=route+command>
 
>All the weekly attempts to log into my server traceroute back to
>China, not Russia. I suppose it could be those fiendishly clever
>Russians spoofing, of course.
 
Most automated attacks arrive from hijacked client computers or
botnets. For DDoS attacks, it looks like attacks originating in the
USA are the major culprits, with China in 2nd place:
<http://www.digitalattackmap.com>
More of the same:
<https://threatbutt.com/map/>
<https://map.lookingglasscyber.com>
etc...
 
 
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Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: May 30 10:15AM +1000

On 30/05/18 08:53, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> covering the hole with a round label inscribed with "$35" which is
> what it will cost them to have me drive over to their office and put
> Humpty Dumpty back together again.
 
You don't charge enough. It costs 3-4 times that to have a plumber call.
 
> has performed mostly correctly. They may need the good publicity it
> brings to compensate for the general impression of gross incompetence
> demonstrated by the Apple iPhone unlocking fiasco.
 
More likely the FBI is helping the NSA install their own sniffers
into every router that gets rebooted, and not just the vulnerable
ones. Of course, that theory presumes competence, so it's probably
wrong.
 
Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: May 30 10:19AM +1000

On 30/05/18 08:53, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
> Yep. That's because the average reporter or announcer doesn't know
> the difference between reboot, reset, restart, power cycle, cold boot,
> hot boot, etc.
 
Also: "Cisco said part of the code used by VPNFilter can still persist
until the affected device is reset to its factory-default settings."
 
So a reset actually might be required.
 
Little surprise because the older computahs had a
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: May 29 11:50PM -0500

On 5/29/18 5:24 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> All the weekly attempts to log into my server traceroute back to
> China, not Russia. I suppose it could be those fiendishly clever
> Russians spoofing, of course.
 
Or some 400 lb guy living in his mother's basement. ;-)
 
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jurb6006@gmail.com: May 29 10:13PM -0700

>"Of course, nothing happens without a suitable conspiracy theory. In
this case, I must ask why the FBI insisted that everyone reset their
routers when only a few models are susceptible."
 
They insisted ? Fukum, I didn't do it. Hold on, there's a knock at the door...
 
...
 
...
 
Don't worry, I shot them. Now, is this possibly the cause of my having trouble to get to certain sites ? These are mainly sites I have never been to before. Everything I normally use is alright, but anything new seems to time out and that is in more than one browser.
 
Maybe some DNSes got screwed up or something like that, but the places I frequent have a backup somewhere ? <just a wild guess
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: May 29 10:22AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 11:16:21 AM UTC-4, Terry Schwartz wrote:
> Too funny. At least Darwin went right for the reproductive organs. Fastest route to stopping the genetic defects.
 
Leaving the most important question, from The Lancet, April 1, 1960-something:
 
Is Sterility Hereditary?
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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