Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

mike <ham789@netzero.net>: Jun 09 05:08AM -0700

On 6/7/2018 10:46 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> and in PSI:
> <http://www.pumpworld.com/vapor-pressure-chart.htm>
> 25 Torr or 0.5 PSI look right.
 
If my google is right, HVAC systems are typically evacuated below
500 microns to get all the water out. That's more like 0.5 Torr.
My memory is vague, but somewhere under 2000 microns was where
the pressure stopped decreasing due to water contamination.
With even the slightest
leak in the system, I couldn't get there.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jun 09 08:28AM -0700

>> 25 Torr or 0.5 PSI look right.
 
>If my google is right, HVAC systems are typically evacuated below
>500 microns to get all the water out. That's more like 0.5 Torr.
 
The point at which water starts to boil at room temp is 20,300 microns
of Hg or 0.393 PSIA or about 20 Torr. Presumably, that's when the
water starts to turn to vapor which can the be removed by the pump.
However, at this pressure, it will take forever, so a much lower
vacuum is probably more practical. Whether it needs 40x more, I don't
know.
 
>the pressure stopped decreasing due to water contamination.
>With even the slightest
>leak in the system, I couldn't get there.
 
When I filled my aquarium with water, applied a vacuum, and looked for
bubbles, in order to check for leaks, I found quite a few. These were
duly plugged with RTV. I had no trouble going down to what I thought
was 200 milliTorr (0.00386 PSI), but now I'm not so sure. I have the
vacuum pump and gauge and might be able to try again, but not for a
while. I would need to build a new vacuum test chamber and don't have
the time, bench space, fresh vacuum oil, fittings, rebuild kit, etc.
 
 
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Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>: Jun 08 01:56PM -0500

On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:32:03 -0400, micky wrote:
 
 
> I want a newer car radio for my 2005 Toyota Solara, and I live in
> Baltimore and want to be able to receive WAMU, 88.5 and WCSP
> (c-span)90.1, from DC.
 
If you are really IN Baltimore, there's no way you can get DC stations on
a car radio. I lived on the Eastern Shore of VA for a while, and I did
listen to my favorite DC stations, but I built a Yagi antenna and pointed
it up into the sky. That was a fixed location and home stereo equipment,
not a car radio. That worked pretty well, but you got a lot of flutter
any time an airplane was crossing in the middle.
 
If you are expecting to get the info from a few specs listed on the
outside of the box, I wouldn't bother. Those specs are not likely to be
very accurate or useful by comparison.
 
Jon
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Jun 08 03:15PM -0700

In article <pfe2lg$17p0$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
 
>selectivity is the opposite to sensivity.
 
By no means. They're almost orthogonal in principle, although in
practice they may tend to go in opposite directions.
 
Sensitivity is a measure of how well a tuner picks up the desired
(on-frequency) signal... that is, how weak a "wanted" signal it can
detect.
 
Selectivity is a measure of how well a tuner _rejects_ non-desired
signals (on adjacent channels, alternate channels, and further
away)... that is, how strong an "unwanted" signal it can filter out.
 
Cheap tuners may be both insensitive, and not very selective.
 
Really good FM tuners can be highly selective, _and_ highly sensitive.
This generally requires having at least one stage of selectivity
(i.e. one or more tuned stages) before the first RF amplifier - these
stages keep strong, off-frequency signals from overloading the amp.
 
Tuners that are beloved of the "FM DX" crowd will tend to have:
 
- Quite a few stages of selectivity in the front-end. You'll see
tuners described as having 3, 4, 5, or more "sections" in the front
end - each section is a tuned circuit. Commonly, one section tunes
the local oscillator, and the rest provide RF selectivity before
the mixer.
 
- Several different bandwidths available in the IF section. A narrow
IF (more stages of IF filtering, and/or more-narrowly-tuned filters
in each stage) provides better selectivity. This can be at the
cost of sensitivity (each IF filter stage adds some amount of loss,
even to the desired signal) so a good narrow-IF design will include
additional stages of IF amplification to make up the losses and
restore the sensitivity.
 
- Post-detection filters, after the FM detector and before the
stereo-multiplex decoder. These help filter out "birdies" and IBOC
digital sub-carrier noise, from FM stations on adjacent or
alternate channels.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Jun 08 09:42PM -0700

>"selectivity is the opposite to sensivity. "
 
No, it is not.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Jun 08 09:47PM -0700

>"Tuners that are beloved of the "FM DX" crowd will tend to have: "
 
I want one with continuously variable IF bandwidth on the front.
Jeroni Paul <JERONI.PAUL@terra.es>: Jun 08 06:16PM -0700

I bought three DisplayPort to DVI-D cables cheap from china and only one works. This one is slightly different and has a small SMD board inside the DP connector - the voltage level shifter.
The other two have no board but the wires directly soldered to the plug.
I wonder if these two cables are fake or if they may work with some devices, maybe some DVI inputs accept wider voltage ranges or some cards willing to output DVI voltages in the DP output.
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