Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 topics

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com>: Aug 09 05:20PM +0800

On 9/08/2018 12:37 AM, Michael Black wrote:
 
> This is for the repair of electronic equipment.  It's not a buy and sell
> newsgroup.
 
>   Michael
 
At least it's not political :-)
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Aug 09 07:53AM -0700

On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:20:15 +0800, Rheilly Phoull
>> newsgroup.
 
>>   Michael
 
>At least it's not political :-)
 
I've noticed that any new topic that appears, degenerates into a
political discussion within about 5 messages. It doesn't seem to
matter what the topic might be or who is doing the posting. The
political discussion continues until someone mentions Trump, where it
degenerates into one-line comments of little intelligence and less
importance. At least it's not an AGW discussion, which tend to be
endless and have been beaten to death long ago. Welcome to the new
Usenet.
 
Incidentally, I collect old LED HP calculators. You won't see quality
design, materials, and construction like that ever again. After a
rough day of dealing with unrepairable Chinese junk, I rather enjoy
fondling gold plated PC boards, dual shot injected keys that don't rub
off, documentation written in readable English, mostly bug free
firmware, batteries that aren't intentionally overcharged, and wall
warts that don't blow up.
 
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jurb6006@gmail.com: Aug 08 12:38PM -0700

On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 10:51:21 AM UTC-5, pf...aol.com wrote:
 
 
> Keep in mind that the Average American:
 
> Does not have a college education, including an Associate Degree (60%).
 
With the age distribution of the population there is something else to be considered. About 40 or so years ago we had industry, and people made money by sweat, and even by some mechanization in factories etc. I knew a guy who made $ 70,000+ a year not only without a diploma, he also couldn't read. Very rudimentary reading, he knew the word "CAUTION" and whatnot, road signs, all that. But a book, forget it. He was an indoor crane operator at a steel mill and the job required he be there but only had to work when the steel starts rolling out. then it was time to hustle, and hustle he did along with the crew. On top of overtime which was easy because there were a few times he could actually take a nap, and the fact that his team ALWAYS got the performance bonus, he had money. His team also had among the lowest accident rates in the plant. He was valuable, he walked into the boss's office smoking after it had been banned, he could but his boss couldn't ! he also had peoples' lives in his hands, a confined area with an overloaded crane, well that is partly how they always made the bonus. The bottom line is nobody fucked up. If he had he could have killed a dozen people easily but they didn't fuck up because they had a work ethic and they cared. Now, what did an engineer make in 1980 ?
 
> Does not have a passport (64%).
 
I have no reason for one. I don't really care abut immersing myself in another peoples' culture, I wish I could immerse myself in MY culture, which progressives seem hell bent on destroying.
 
> Speaks one language – badly (74%).
 
Guilty as charged and not proud of it. Being unilingual is a severe disadvantage. When I went to school (kinda) they required one other language in highschool. I think there should be at least 2 mandatory, one elective and recommended 2 or 3 electives. Unfortunately I really am too old, my hearing sucks so that would make it nearly impossible. If I had kids I would not let that happen to them. My Parents did well to make sure I could read and write and know basic numbers before kindergarten, but they had no portent to impel them to push that issue. It was the 1960s, whaddya want ?
 
> Has never traveled voluntarily more than 200 miles from his/her birthplace (57%).
 
I've been around the country but not out of it. I still go on a road trip once in a while. Been to New Mexico from Ohio, that is as far as I ever went, I almost went to Vegas once but that didn't happen, and forget California. To me, travel is an option. I like it here, I like the cheap food and beer prices and my dealer. I want a job, I can live like a King on about $ 20 an hour here.
 
> Has never visited a foreign country, not even Mexico or Canada (71%).
 
No intent, back to the passport thing.
 
> Cannot name the Speaker of the House, even today (82%)
 
Sure, 6079 ryan p. Or to his friends just like all politicians - "our boy in the house". (I had to look that up, I care so little)
 
> Cannot name the three branches of government (64%)
 
Neither can the three branches of government it seems sometimes. I can. But I have heard that before, people guessed one is the military, I think someone guessed Exxon. (truer than he thought probably) Hell in California where the probably spend more per pupil than most states we got people who think they can impeach a President with a ballot initiative in the city. Berkely in fact, isn't that where they got a bunch of colleges ?
 
> Cannot read at a college level (83%)
 
I can, but I didn't learn to read in school. My family would be ashamed to send a kid to school who couldn't reads at least. I urge Parents of today to teach their kids, because the schools won't. If they let the schools do it you get "I am to weak too do to of these" and "I am whering pants wearever I go". I consider that practically illiterate, but they got that sheepskin. hell if they can't read they might as well crawl into it because they will never lead.
 
> Cannot read for content (54%). This person cannot follow written-only directions.
 
We got people on Usenet who quote and write refuting things with which they agree and we are talking engineers here. (not you, they know who they are)And as far as instructions, I would rather have them printed. Oh and I do not mean written, I mean printed. Cursive writing has no business i business.
 
> 60% of American Households do not buy any book in a year.
 
Internet. Ebooks. Kindle. Are you including that ? OK, some people got a computer and all they do is play games and pretend to write, like "HW R U 2DY' and "CNDY IS FING AL I COT EM IN HS TRUK". But they got the high score on the games. Then every once in a while you run into someone like me, i have no desire to read fiction. I want books but I want science or technology in them.
 
> Does not believe in Evolution (42% creationism, 32% evolution, 26% no opinion).
 
Before I completely rejected all religion I had that dilemma settled, creating by evolution. Even a scholar I read somewhere when asked at a parochial school or something like that "Evolution of course, but who could do it ?" But adopting that attitude does not mean you reject evolution, it is the real idiot who think that god had a hand like we do and molded Adam our of clay or some shit, and then took a rib and... That is the real bullshit, but really when you get into the complexities of life, our bodies, minds, the Earth, the universe and all these conditions just right, the odds are so astronomical against life that it is difficult to believe it wass just a chance happening. I am not saying that is what I believe, but I understand what many of the people who are not stupid believe. The really stupid ones are indoctrinated. Tell ya what, we should let the kids drink but not allow them any access to religion until they're 18 or maybe 21. Actually IIRC in countries where they let the kids drink there is less alcohol addiction. that might be very old information so don't take it to the bank, but I didn't make it up.
 
 
> Only 74% of eligible voters are registered.
 
Many believe there is nobody for whom to vote. Look at 2016 for the reason, in face 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, nobody voted FOR anyone, just against the other. And that is probably going to keep Trump in the big chair in 2020, because really, who else is there who is not owned ? (I know nobody wants him but even if they did ... he obviously can't be embarrassed, very hard to blackmail because he just doesn't give a shit)
 
> Only 61.6% of registered voters voted in 2016.
 
Same difference, vote for WHOM ???
 
> Meaning that the average American eligible to vote does not vote (only 45.14% net). **The Average American does not vote**. "
 
Got a good candidate I am sure they;ll have a look. People don't vote because it won't change anything, except it did in 2016. Was it Churchill who said "If voting could change anything it would be illegal" ?
 
> This has not one damned thing to do with party, democrat, republican, libertarian, communist, green, whatever. It has to do with massive, systemic and deliberate neglect, and industrial-grade stupidity mixed equally with mil.Spec. ignorance.
 
it is not stupidity that keeps them away from the polls,it is apathy. Not to worry, there are still enough stupid people to keep big business and government rich for years to come.
 
> And, this is why the likes of tRump can become president of this country. Note, please, that tRump lost the popular vote. Really. This sort of societal negligence and ignorance is how Hitler became Chancellor of Germany.
 
Number one, Trump got elected because the DNC tried to shove that autistic bitch down the peoples' throat. And the popular vote ? A real landslide was it ? A whole 3 million out of 139 million. Damn, I guess now that the People have won it is tie to change the system right ?
 
 
 
> Erich Fromm
 
> "The United States is extremely lucky that no honest, charismatic figure has arisen. Every charismatic figure is such an obvious crook that he destroys himself, like McCarthy or Nixon or the evangelist preachers. If somebody comes along who is charismatic and honest this country is in real trouble because of the frustration, disillusionment, the justified anger and the absence of any coherent response.
 
> Noam Chomsky
 
And those peoples' opinions and a dollar will get you three quarters, two dimes and a nickel.
 
You are not wrong, you are just not focusing on the right things. not uncommon these days.
amdx <nojunk@knology.net>: Aug 08 08:51PM -0500

On 8/7/2018 10:47 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
>>>> There is something wrong with my TV. Everytime I turn it on, I see
>>>> someone get shot and killed with a gun. There must be something wrong
>>>> with the set.
 
That is odd, I very rarely see anyone get shot.
Are you sure you are not picking violent programs?
I'd suggest you only watch programs with sex, but
then you might start complaining about that, catch someones ear and it
could get banned. Then what would I watch?
 
Mikek
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