| rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 31 11:16AM -0700 On 12/31/2018 01:18 AM, nospam wrote: > regardless of what type of app it is, largely because of the zillions > of devices needed to support and test, and apple is *not* solely > consumer focused in the least. https://www.technewsworld.com/story/21320.html How's that Xserve doing? Oh, I forgot. It was discontinued in 2011 to be replaced by Mac Pro Server. How's that one going? Oops, it lasted two years. You keep saying Apple is not solely consumer focused. So where has it penetrated enterprise level solutions? |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Dec 31 01:59PM -0500 In article <g8v4lqFa9chU1@mid.individual.net>, rbowman > You keep saying Apple is not solely consumer focused. So where has it > penetrated enterprise level solutions? pretty much everywhere. take off your blinders and look around. <https://blog.code42.com/the-growth-of-macs-in-the-enterprise-is-challen ging-the-pcs-dominance/> The PC has long been the default choice for business computers, but perhaps not for much longer. The growth of Macs in the enterprise has been exponential in recent years, as illustrated by the infographic below. ... Simpler IT support for Macs and a high level of user self-service drive the bulk of this cost savings. IBM reports that just 3.5 percent of its Mac users currently call the help desk, compared to 25 percent of its PC users. Media company Buzzfeed maintains only a small IT staff for its thousands of employeesonly 30-35 employees use Windows machines, while the rest operate on Macs infographic: <https://blog.code42.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Growth-of-Macs-in-th e-Enterprise.png> ibm, of all companies, has what is likely the largest mac deployment, with *half* of their employees having macs: <https://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-o wn-than-windows-2016-10> At that time, some 30,000 IBM employees were using Macs. Today 90,000 of them are, he said. And IBM ultimately plans to distribute 150,000 to 200,000 Macs to workers, meaning about half of IBM's approximately 370,000 employees will have Macs. the real growth is in the mobile space, as it is everywhere, not just enterprise. mobile is the future. airlines in particular are using ipads: <https://www.cnet.com/news/singapore-airline-pilots-get-digitized-with-i pads/> But Singapore Airlines wants to change that for its pilots -- and it's leveraging Apple's iPad to do so to make the "pilot duty process" easier for its frequent flyers. The airline started looking into this back in 2015, before rolling out iPads loaded with two essential custom apps, FlyNow and Roster. These iPads are secured with Apple's TouchID, letting them ditch the previously used two-factor authentication dongles pilots had to carry around. That's on top of the other apps that give pilots detailed weather information and flight charting information. note the 'custom app' part, which you incorrectly claimed was not possible on ios devices. it's very possible and widely done, and quite a bit easier with higher quality apps than with android. more *custom* mobile apps: <https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ibm-and-united-airlines-collab orate-on-enterprise-ios-apps-to-transform-travel-experience-300401163.ht ml> IBM (NYSE: IBM) and United Airlines today announced a collaboration to deliver a robust suite of enterprise iOS apps, unleashing the power of the more than 50,000 iOS devices in the hands of the airline's front-line employees. As part of IBM and Apple's global partnership to redefine the way work gets done, these made-for-business apps will be powered by analytics and customized to further drive the airline's digital transformation, enhancing how United serves its customers. <https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-ge-partner-to-bring-predix-apps-to- ios/> General Electric is partnering with Apple to develop mobile apps for industrial operators that will bring analytics from GE's Predix platform to Apple's iPads and iPhones. ... For Apple, the Cupertino tech giant has partnered with a number of software companies in an effort to push iOS apps for the enterprise -- including IBM, Cisco, Deloitte, and SAP -- but the GE partnership goes a bit deeper. delta is switching from microsoft surface to ipad: <http://fortune.com/2017/10/23/delta-airlines-microsoft-surface-apple-ip hone-ipad/> Delta Air Lines will provide nearly 30,000 flight crew members with Apple iPads and iPhones, reversing course from a high-profile deal announced four years ago that armed flight crews with Microsoft hardware. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Dec 31 05:03PM -0500 In article <g8vhehFcpp0U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger > The Xserve has absolutely nothing to do with how easy it is to develop > mobile apps for iOS and Android. HARD FAIL. Troll harder. That attempt > was pitiful. to be fair, he was referring to the consumer focus part, although that was just a small part of the entire comment. and there's much more to enterprise than an xserve. |
| rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 31 03:13PM -0700 On 12/31/2018 02:53 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: > The Xserve has absolutely nothing to do with how easy it is to develop > mobile apps for iOS and Android. HARD FAIL. Troll harder. That attempt > was pitiful. Jolly, did your education include reading comprehension? nospam asserted Apple is not solely focused on consumers. My reply was their attempted foray into the enterprise world was a failure. Note: I am not saying iPad and iPhones cannot serve as thin clients in an enterprise environment, but then so can a Chromebook. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Dec 31 05:34PM -0500 In article <g8viilFd6liU1@mid.individual.net>, rbowman > Jolly, did your education include reading comprehension? nospam asserted > Apple is not solely focused on consumers. My reply was their attempted > foray into the enterprise world was a failure. there's *much* more to enterprise than just xserve. much, much more. > Note: I am not saying iPad and iPhones cannot serve as thin clients in > an enterprise environment, but then so can a Chromebook. two different use cases. ipads and iphones have *very* powerful processors and can do a *lot* more than just be a thin client, whereas that's about all a chromebook is. for education, chromebook is a very good choice. if one is damaged (and kids will definitely damage them), replace it, log in and continue. no single product works for every use case. pick the best tool for the job. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Dec 31 03:18AM -0500 In article <q0ci0c$agp$1@dont-email.me>, sms > apps, on Android, as well as being easier to deploy them. Apple is > solely consumer-electronics focused, with little interest in supporting > niche markets. completely false. developing and deploying for ios is a lot easier than android, regardless of what type of app it is, largely because of the zillions of devices needed to support and test, and apple is *not* solely consumer focused in the least. > There are other advantages to developing for Android as well, including > much more complete support for industry standards like Bluetooth and > NMEA. more bs. apple was first to support bluetooth le on a mobile device. > iOS app, is really an issue. You can just buy a used Mac Mini for a > couple of hundred dollars. But deploying an iOS app to a niche market is > more of an issue. nonsense. niche markets can be very lucrative, and because of that can easily justify much more than a used mac for development. |
| rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Dec 31 09:47PM -0700 On 12/31/2018 03:34 PM, nospam wrote: > there's *much* more to enterprise than just xserve. much, much more. Whatever. Have a Happy New Year filled with apples. |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Jan 01 03:45PM >> Please just name one (link) if that's the case. > LOL, you often see inquiries for an iOS app with all the functionality > of Torque Pro. Unfortunately there's no such animal. Bullshit. You obviously haven't looked very hard. I've been using the Carista BLE Bluetooth adapter with the OBD Fusion iOS app for a while now, and it is such an animal. It works great on multiple cars I've used it with: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/obd-fusion/id650684932?mt=8> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YVHGTBM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DM4kCbPHPTJAS> > I don't know why > the author doesn't port it to iOS It's not needed on iOS. > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/engine-link-obd-ii-vehicle/id591557194?mt=8 > is rated 2.4 out of 5. They do explain that only certain types of OBD-II > dongles will work. Crappy app there. No thanks. > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en_US > is rated 4.5 out of 5. It just has a lot more functionality. OBD Fusion is rated 4.7 out of 5 by 4820 people on the iOS App Store. > Still puzzled as to why the Bluetooth SPP profile was left out of iOS. > No one has ever had a good answer to that. It's not needed. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
| Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>: Dec 31 09:53PM >> consumer focused in the least. > https://www.technewsworld.com/story/21320.html > How's that Xserve doing? The Xserve has absolutely nothing to do with how easy it is to develop mobile apps for iOS and Android. HARD FAIL. Troll harder. That attempt was pitiful. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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