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amdx <nojunk@knology.net>: Apr 18 11:36AM -0500 > Evil disguises itself with 'good works' as a mean to ensnare the gullible. That the Orange Toad has the occasional positive impact is an excellent example of this phenomenon, making the absolute fact that it is an absolute abomination just muddy enough to fool its base.   > Peter Wieck > Melrose Park, PA   Well, please educate me, What is the evil that President Trump is planning to do the the United States of America?   Waiting with great anticipation of your erudite words, Mikek

three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Apr 17 11:15AM -0700 On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:56:07 PM UTC-4, three_jeeps wrote:   > Nothing has fixed the problem, and I hate to toss this stuff. Actually I am more interested in what the problem is and a cure for it - if any. > Thanks > John   To elaborate a bit further and answer some questions posed by others below... 1. The Targus 'clicker' seemed to have a rubberized feel to it (to increase grippiness) but it feels like a extremely thin layer of a coating The Foscam PTZ enclosure has a matte texture/feel to it but I can't determine if it has a coating or not 2. Smell? well my smell sense is not that great, yes, maybe a very slight 'sweet' 3. Same condition as rubber component breakdown? no. it is not hardened (as in rubber capstan rollers, etc. It is more sticky and a slightly gooey, but nothing comes off or stretches when it is handled. 4. I have a bottle of 'rubber restorer' that I use on tape decks, old phonographs, etc. I'll try that but I see it as a softener and if the gear I have is already 'soft' I didnt see this a very helpful. Brake fluid. I'll try that. Thanks   It is annoying to think that this stuff is 5 yo or less and it has decayed like this. This seems like a situation that should be understood & resolved. J

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Apr 17 08:04PM +0100 On 17/04/2019 19:15, three_jeeps wrote: > Brake fluid. I'll try that. Thanks   > It is annoying to think that this stuff is 5 yo or less and it has decayed like this. This seems like a situation that should be understood & resolved. > J   Sustained unusual humidity or temperature ?

Pat <forums@greensdomain.com>: Apr 17 05:02PM -0400 >> It is annoying to think that this stuff is 5 yo or less and it has decayed like this. This seems like a situation that should be understood & resolved. >> J   >Sustained unusual humidity or temperature ?   I had that same issue with a Grundig G6 portable AM/FM/SW radio. After a number of years (maybe 7 or 8), the non-slip material on the outside of the case turned gooey/sticky. Like the OP, I tried all sort of things (alcohol,etc) without luck. I found a post somewhere where someone recommended a solvent to fix it and ordered some. It still wasn't easy to get the goo off, but I did eventually remove it. The radio still worked great. I wish I could remember the stuff I used. I will try to find it and add to this thread if I succeed. By the way, there was no unusual temperature or humidity involved. The radio was in a desk drawer in an air conditioned house for 99.9 % of the time.   Pat

Pat <forums@greensdomain.com>: Apr 17 05:11PM -0400 On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:02:50 -0400, Pat <forums@greensdomain.com> wrote:   >was in a desk drawer in an air conditioned house for 99.9 % of the >time.   >Pat As promised, I looked into what I used. It was oven cleaner. Here is a link to the blog where the problem was described and solved: https://swling.com/blog/2016/03/how-danny-removed-the-sticky-residue-from-his-grundig-g6/   Pat

S.Freud <Siggy@TheDoctor.com>: Apr 18 02:13PM +1000 On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT), >> John   >No solution that we know of. Talc or cornstarch provides a temporary bodge. Several solvents can remove it but it's very slow going. Brake fluid has been recommended as one of the best. Heatshrink sleeving it is another option, or perhaps tape.   >NT   We remove cured silicone rubber with overnight contact with mineral turpentine. The product swells greatly and can then be rubbed off.   Drench a rag in mineral turpentine, wrap it around the item, then wrap the whole in polythene film to retard turpentine evaporation.

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Apr 18 10:45AM +0100 On 17/04/2019 22:11, Pat wrote: > and solved: > https://swling.com/blog/2016/03/how-danny-removed-the-sticky-residue-from-his-grundig-g6/   > Pat   Oven cleaner will etch into some plastics , so check on the rear first. Its great for removing tobacco stain and with caution , its etching will remove sun-browning of white platic cases. Assuming this rubber coating is for anti-slip reasons, is there any mobile phone/tablet model with this treatment?

three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Apr 18 08:31AM -0700 On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 5:11:09 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote: > and solved: > https://swling.com/blog/2016/03/how-danny-removed-the-sticky-residue-from-his-grundig-g6/   > Pat   This link was very helpful. I wish they would have noted the oven cleaner product (Easy-Off?). I will try the oven cleaner, goo-gone, and the kitchen goo gone. Oven cleaner has some nasty vapors... BTW, the devices I have stayed indoors, so no humidity issues (unless the occasional 90% humidity days we experience in the summer to be of concern) Thanks again

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Apr 18 06:26AM -0700 On 2019/04/17 7:49 a.m., Look165 wrote: >>> Ecran hyper sombre et baisse de son. >>> Quelqu'un a une idée ? >> LG tv, very dark screen, loss of sound. I'd check the power supply first.   Courtesy of Google Translate:   Avez-vous un compteur ESR (comme le compteur Bob's Blue ESR) pour vérifier les bouchons électrolytiques? Fonctionne très bien avec les capuchons SMD ...   (Do you have an ESR meter (Like Bob's Blue ESR meter) to check the electrolytic caps? Works just fine with SMD caps...)   John :-#)#   -- (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup) John's Jukes Ltd. MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

Look165 <look165@numericable.fr>: Apr 18 04:17PM +0200 No, I don't. But generally if ESR is wrong, the capacitor value too ! Anyway, I think of an electrolytic failure.   John Robertson a écrit le 18/04/2019 à 15:26 :

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Apr 18 08:01AM -0700 On 2019/04/18 7:17 a.m., Look165 wrote: > No, I don't. > But generally if ESR is wrong, the capacitor value too ! > Anyway, I think of an electrolytic failure.   I agree. We've been using Bob's ESR meter kit in our shop since the late 90s. Handy tool!   John :-#)#     -- (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup) John's Jukes Ltd. MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3 (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

mroberds@att.net: Apr 17 11:26PM > If you send a check with the order, [DigiKey was] paying the shipping.   One kink I found out: they want to charge you the state sales tax in the destination state if you do this. I needed *one* wall-wart a while back, so I mailed them a check. They duly shipped the wart, along with a nastygram that I owed them 35 cents, or whatever it was.   Matt Roberds

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Apr 17 06:41PM -0700 > so I mailed them a check. They duly shipped the wart, along with a > nastygram that I owed them 35 cents, or whatever it was.   > Matt Roberds     I doubt to OP even has a checking account, or that he would spend the $17 to do anything right.   They state that you have to pay any taxes on their website.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 17 08:46PM -0500 > What do you guys use for chassis wiring on old tube gear?   Or, instead of all the other bull shit answers, you can just buy the right stuff. <https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/wire-hook-22-awg-50-foot-roll> It's what I use.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: Apr 18 02:18PM +1000 On 18/4/19 11:41 am, Michael Terrell wrote: >> nastygram that I owed them 35 cents, or whatever it was.   >> Matt Roberds   > I doubt to OP even has a checking account, or that he would spend the $17 to do anything right.   LOL at "checking account". One old-timer laughing at another.   The rest of the world stopped using them almost entirely like two decades ago. I mean we still have them, we just never need to use them in the 21st century.

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Apr 17 10:00PM -0700 On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 12:18:23 AM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:   > The rest of the world stopped using them almost entirely like two > decades ago. I mean we still have them, we just never need to use them > in the 21st century.   I still use them to pay my property taxes and a few other bills that add a surcharge to process my debit card. I haven't been able to set up automatic payments for my new truck yet, so that is paid by check until that is ready.

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Apr 18 02:00AM +0800 On 4/15/2019 4:08 AM, peter wieck wrote: > Fossil Fuel plants create carbon dioxide in large amounts.   > Wind Farms require acreage, which is in limited supply, but otherwise are comparatively cheap, effective and very long-lasting. Life-cycle cost-per-watt is far and away the cheapest of the lot.   > Pick your poison. In terms of generating large amounts of unusable waste that cannot be recycled using present technology, Solar is the winner by a massive margin. It just hasn't gotten there yet.     Thank you, Your Honor!   Energy must also be reserved to repair and build the power-generation facilities, be it solar panels or wind farms. All these facilities need factories to produce, and factories themselves need energy.   I am wondering how all those big solar-panel farms process dead panels without polluting their underground water ... :)   -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ¤£­É¶U! ¤£¶BÄF! ¤£½ä¿ú! ¤£´©¥æ! ¤£¥´¥æ! ¤£¥´§T! ¤£¦Û±þ! ¤£¨D¯«! ½Ð¦Ò¼{ºî´© (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Apr 18 02:03AM +0800 > No, at this point, there are still those who are willing to pay for this junk and rubbish. Or accept payment to receive it. Either way, the real impact of the need to recycle solar cells will not hit for another 15 years, and then ramp up to massive levels within the next 35 years.   Just like plastic 40 years ago? Did they predict global plastic and micro-plastic pollution? Did they decide that it could be fixed?   -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ¤£­É¶U! ¤£¶BÄF! ¤£½ä¿ú! ¤£´©¥æ! ¤£¥´¥æ! ¤£¥´§T! ¤£¦Û±þ! ¤£¨D¯«! ½Ð¦Ò¼{ºî´© (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Apr 17 11:52AM -0700 You worry far too much.   1,000,000 years from now, either the problems will be solved, or they will not. But it will make no difference to any of us. Species come and go with relentless regularity - and humans are only one of many tens of thousands of species. Eventually, humans will go. Full stop.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Filip454 <filip454.newsgroups@gmail.com>: Apr 18 12:44AM +0200 W dniu 2019-04-17 o 05:00, Bob F pisze:   >> How do you recycle solar panels? Without any pollution?   > You post them as free on Craigslist or freecycle, and they go away in > minutes.   Kek'd hard.   -- Filip454 [filip454.newsgroups@gmail.com]

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