Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Jun 12 11:09AM -0700

> I believe that's "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her
> think."
 
I believe Ms. Parker did, in fact, use both versions. We lived in NYC in my youth, and my father was in publishing, editing and translating. Ms. Parker was an infrequent, but not rare, dinner visitor, and even to my young mind, a bit of a verbal dazzler.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Jun 12 10:08PM -0400

> translating. Ms. Parker was an infrequent, but not rare, dinner
> visitor, and even to my young mind, a bit of a verbal dazzler.
 
> Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA
 
Fun!
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
 
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cornelius@eisner.decus.org (George Cornelius): Jun 13 12:32AM -0400


> https://en.wind-turbine-models.com/turbines/548-gamesa-g87
 
> You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think. (Dorothy Parker)
 
> You would be that whore.
 
If you don't have an argument, resort to ad hominems.
 
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jun 12 09:05AM -0700

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:17:41 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:
 
>I use an ESR meter for things besides caps, this chatty one that goes
>down to 0.001 ohms is handy for finding shorts between traces, and other
>jobs, not just testing caps. Maximum is around 90 ohms.
 
Yet another idea. Most supercaps have an extremely low ESR. For
example, Murata claims 40 to 300 milliohms (measured at 1KHz).
<https://www.murata.com/~/media/webrenewal/products/capacitor/edlc/techguide/electrical/c2m1cxs-053.ashx>
Ask Bob Parker if he can build something to test those. I have no
clue how to build probes with that low a contact resistance. Fat
copper wires with silver contacts? I don't have an immediate
application or market, but I keep running into supercaps with no way
to test them for anything more than capacitance.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Jun 12 10:20AM -0700

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 9:03:43 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
I don't know if anything is wrong with this thing. I have degrees in Electrical Computer engineering and focus on CPU architecture and hardware design, and control theory. As an EE, yea, designed/built lots of digital and analog 'stuff' but never dabbled with microwave 'stuff' and the SRD was something I've never come across till I was looking at the schematics and tech manual for this device. Personally, I have no use for it and lots of other things to devote my time to, but I thought I'd ask some questions about these devices on the off chance I'd do something with it.
I did go down the route of looking up the tek cross to commercial parts and found nothing, so I am even more inclined not to deal with this thing. Given that is vintage 1965 and hasn't been turned on in 30+ years, chances are components are non-functional.
Thanks for all the insights.
J
Arie de Muynck <no.spam@no.spam.org>: Jun 12 09:50PM +0200

On 2019-06-12 18:05, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> copper wires with silver contacts? I don't have an immediate
> application or market, but I keep running into supercaps with no way
> to test them for anything more than capacitance.
 
One would use Kelvin connections - probe resistance is not a major issue
then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-terminal_sensing
 
Arie
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Jun 12 06:26PM -0700

On 2019/06/12 12:50 p.m., Arie de Muynck wrote:
> then.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-terminal_sensing
 
> Arie
 
I forgot to mention that Bob uses Kelvin connections to his probes on
the Talking ESR meter prototype.
 
John :-#)#
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