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David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Aug 06 02:34PM -0700 > Press and hold the CANCEL and Clock pads for three > seconds. The time of day will reappear in the display   > http://www.manualsdir.com/manuals/119283/magic-chef-500.html?page=9   Hi Mike,   I tried pressing and holding those key combinations but it did not make any difference. The display is still blank until you press Cancel. Then it displays "OFF" for 15 seconds and goes blank again.   Thanks for your reply.   -- David Farber Los Osos, CA

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Aug 06 04:09PM -0700 On 2019/08/06 2:34 p.m., David Farber wrote:   > -- > David Farber > Los Osos, CA   Did you check that the switches show continuity? If a matrix check that the rows and columns show appropriate connections when switch X is pressed - powered OFF!   Also, chances are the EPROM is OK if it will reset. Bad EPROM usually locks up the CPU and it will be completely unresponsive.   John :-#)#

David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Aug 06 04:38PM -0700 On 8/6/2019 4:09 PM, John Robertson wrote:   > Also, chances are the EPROM is OK if it will reset. Bad EPROM usually > locks up the CPU and it will be completely unresponsive.   > John :-#)#   The oven control schematic that came with the oven is incomplete.It shows the relays on the control board and external connections to it but it does not show any of the supporting circuitry such as the keypad, semiconductors, power supply, etc. I have no idea how you would do a matrix check of the keypad without a detailed diagram. In one of my previous posts, I explained how the keypad was working after I was able to trigger the alarm and then power cycle the board. But after a second power cycling, it reverted to its "OFF," display.   Thanks for your reply.   -- David Farber Los Osos, CA

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Aug 07 04:34AM -0700 A bit late into this.   I have found that with older appliances, re-assembly can be a bit of by-guess-and-by-god, not because the tech mis-wires, but because connectors are often old, sometimes brittle and so forth.   Go back, pull it all apart, clean anything relevant, check for any marginal, loose or cracked connectors, check the traces on the boards where possible, and then re-assemble with extreme care.   Might help. Can't hurt. Remember, the alternative is land-fill.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Aug 07 05:37AM -0700 > Might help. Can't hurt. Remember, the alternative is land-fill.   > Peter Wieck > Melrose Park, PA   Hi Peter,   The circuit board and connectors are in very good condition. I found a used control board with keypad for sale on eBay. It should be arriving tomorrow.   Thanks for your reply.   -- David Farber Los Osos, CA

Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com>: Aug 07 04:28PM +1000 Looking for user manual for Elcontrol MicroVIP MK1 power analyzer. No luck with a Google search and have messaged a few places that sell MicroVIP devices.

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Aug 07 05:30AM -0700 Tried the Mother Ship?   http://www.elcontrol-energy.net/divisioni/misurazione/nanovip/?lang=en   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com>: Aug 07 04:29PM +1000 Looking for information on Pye PH Meter.

Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com>: Aug 07 09:49AM +0100 On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:29:43 +1000, Lucifer   >Looking for information on Pye PH Meter.   It is listed by http://www.rigal-bennett.com/Catalogue/Product?refnumber=S9065-51   There is a phone number on that page.   Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com

"Swer" <swer@gmail.com>: Aug 07 03:28AM +1000 "rbowman" <bowman@montana.com> wrote in message news:gqtgobFe6o5U1@mid.individual.net... > so the procedure might have changed but airports would have their > elevation prominently marked. Part of the preflight was setting the > altimeter to match.   That's because air pressure changes. Laser height measuring from satellites and planes for mapping works fine and is a lot more accurate than GPS.

Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Aug 06 08:23PM +0200 On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 03:28:15 +1000, Sewer, better known as cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:   > That's because air pressure changes. Laser height measuring from > satellites and planes for mapping works fine and is a lot more > accurate than GPS.   "GPS"? Does that stand for "Geriatric Pile of Shit" in your case, senile Rodent?   -- MrTurnip@down.the.farm about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: <ps10v9$uo2$1@gioia.aioe.org>

etpm@whidbey.com: Aug 06 12:31PM -0700 >That's because air pressure changes. Laser height measuring from >satellites and planes for mapping works fine and is a lot more >accurate than GPS. Why is laser measuring much more accurate than GPS? They both use light and clocks. Eric

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Aug 06 07:30PM >>accurate than GPS. >Why is laser measuring much more accurate than GPS? They both use >light and clocks.   GPS doesn't use lasers. The receiver triangulates signals from multiple satellites to determine x, y and z coordinates of the receiver.   The z coordinate (altitude) is not very accurate   http://gpsinformation.net/main/altitude.htm

etpm@whidbey.com: Aug 06 03:24PM -0700 On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 19:30:56 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:   >satellites to determine x, y and z coordinates of the receiver.   >The z coordinate (altitude) is not very accurate   >http://gpsinformation.net/main/altitude.htm I know GPS doesn't use lasers. It uses radio waves which are light and move the same speed as lasers. What is it about using lasers that makes them more accurate? Eric

"Swer" <swer@gmail.com>: Aug 07 09:38AM +1000 <etpm@whidbey.com> wrote in message news:k8ljkedtv1dhiibk1v4cst0vloqenjoa0v@4ax.com... >>satellites and planes for mapping works fine and is a lot more >>accurate than GPS.   > Why is laser measuring much more accurate than GPS?   Because the laser is the most accurate way to measure things.   > They both use light   GPS doesn't. It used radio waves.   > and clocks.   Yes.

"Swer" <swer@gmail.com>: Aug 07 09:51AM +1000 <etpm@whidbey.com> wrote in message news:1fvjkedv5a8q9b7j8kejg052trlut667q1@4ax.com... > I know GPS doesn't use lasers. It uses radio waves which are light and > move the same speed as lasers. What is it about using lasers that > makes them more accurate?   It's a direct ping from the satellite or plane with the laser. With GPS its continuous radio waves with varying propagation effects. That's why you need more than one visible satellite with GPS.

rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Aug 06 07:13PM -0600 > Why is laser measuring much more accurate than GPS? They both use > light and clocks. > Eric   A GPS receiver extrapolates from the satellite constellation. The closer to the horizon the birds are and the more angular distance separating them, the better it works. In cities or mountainous terrain the view of the sky can be limited so it has to work with those overhead. It has nothing to do with light unless you have an extremely loose definition of the spectrum.   With a laser you're bouncing the beam off an object.

Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Aug 07 10:19AM +0200 On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:51:56 +1000, Sewer, better known as cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:     > With GPS its continuous radio waves with varying propagation > effects. That's why you need more than one visible satellite > with GPS.   SOURCE, senile Mr Know-it-all? I KNOW you just looked it up, just so you could smartass again, you pathological, lonely, senile sow!   -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>: Aug 07 10:26AM +0200 On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:38:11 +1000, Sewer, better known as cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:       >> Why is laser measuring much more accurate than GPS?   > Because the laser is the most accurate way to measure things.   Dig this, senile troll from Oz: a troll's posts are the most accurate way to measure the extent of his trolling. They knew that already back then in 2007 when the dedicated that website to you:   https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/   -- dennis@home to retarded senile Rot: "sod off rod you don't have a clue about anything." Message-ID: <uV9lE.196195$cx5.41611@fx46.iad>

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Aug 06 09:57AM -0700 On 2019/08/06 9:26 a.m., N_Cook wrote: > heights, averaging to about true presumably oe t least offsettable. A > "proper" geodometer with interface topc is far too expensive for this > sort of project.   That would have been useful in the OP. Makes the project much more interesting!   You could make (then secure and float) an IR reflector, much like a radar reflector, for calibration.   https://www.instructables.com/id/Lightweight-Radar-Reflector/   John :-#)#

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Aug 06 10:44AM -0500 >> Peter Wieck >> Melrose Park, PA   > There is always a reason. The OP has not stated his.   Nigel doesn't need a reason. He's constantly falling into these rabbit holes of no return.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Lucifer <LuciferMorningstar@bigpond.com>: Aug 07 04:24PM +1000 On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 02:00:38 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison   >> What did he say?   I can't get mine into games mode either.

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