- Air conditioner coils and fan motor - 9 Updates
- Air conditioner coils and fan motor - 2 Updates
| "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com>: Sep 12 08:12PM I was 3,500 miles away in S. America last week when my cat sitter reported that my air conditioning condenser outside wasn't running. I have an American Home Shield warranty and got my neighbour to meet the repair guy at the house. The repair guy told me the condenser fan bearings were shot and the motor needed replacing. Okay, it's 28 years old as far as I know. Then he tells me he's going to tell American Home Shield that the motor failed due to improper maintainence because one surface of the condenser coils were dirty. He said the heat made the motor fail. I asked him how heat build up could take out the bearings in a motor. He just said that's what happened then promptly called AHS and got my coverage denied. Then he told me he'd charge me $750 for a new motor, fan and coil cleaning. Being on the other side of the planet I had no choice but to let him rape me if I wanted a working AC when I got home. So, my question is this: Is there anyway possible that dirty coils could stop a fan motor from running? (I doubt very much that the motor was thermal protected.) -- Dallas |
| Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Sep 12 08:33PM >>could stop a fan motor from running? (I doubt very much that the motor >>was thermal protected.) > I would call AHS and raise hell. Sounds like a rip off to me. The entire AHS is a rip off :) A good fan motor for an external condenser up to 4 tons (don't know about bigger ones but those are not common in residential units) can be easily purchased for something like $150. Replacing it is half-hour job for anybody who has even rudimentary skills. Total cost would be less than AHS "copay". --- ****************************************************************** * KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. * * Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. * ****************************************************************** |
| Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Sep 12 05:15PM -0400 In article <qlea2c$mms$1@dont-email.me>, ksi@koi8.net says... > residential units) can be easily purchased for something like $150. > Replacing it is half-hour job for anybody who has even rudimentary skills. > Total cost would be less than AHS "copay". Those home warrenty/insurance companies are all rip offs. The cost of the motor from a repair man does not surprise me. A few years ago my AC quit. Called 'One Hour AC people and the man came out, abut 5 minuits said a capacitor was bad. Relpaced it and was about $ 350 for the bill. The capacitor should now be over $ 50 allowing for a large markup that is usually charged and I was told it would be $ 100 just for the man to come out. That ment I got ripped out of about $ 200. I hae bought a capacitor and relay for it off ebay for about $ 25 total for my 'insurance'. The capacitor the man put in only lasted about 2 years, and my ebay one has been in longer than that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
| etpm@whidbey.com: Sep 12 03:07PM -0700 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:12:38 -0000 (UTC), "Dallas" >So, my question is this: Is there anyway possible that dirty coils >could stop a fan motor from running? (I doubt very much that the motor >was thermal protected.) No dice on the dirty condenser causing the motor bearings to fail. It was just age. And $750 for motor, fan and cleaning is way over priced. I would contest the bill. Maybe you can get an estimate from the motor installer's competitors to compare. You can be sure that AHS wouldn't have paid $750 for that repair. Ask them how much they would have paid. Eric |
| Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Sep 12 06:41PM -0400 In article <6gelned77pqdo83kbt22f3i4ij0hn9phk4@4ax.com>, ken1943 @invalid.net says... > place to buy them locally. My last company had around a $ 2 million > stock only because of telephone stock for emergencies. No local place > to buy locally. Sure they do. My dad worked as an appliance repar man from about 1950 to 1965. The company he worked for would usually mark the parts up about double. That is why I would not have minded paying $ 50 for a $ 20 part, but not $ 300. It is hard telling how much repair stock the company I worked for had but probably in the millions. This was a very large industrial plant. Some parts were stocked by companies 50 miles away, some parts had to be specially made and could take weeks or longer. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
| John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Sep 12 06:57PM -0700 On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 4:12:41 PM UTC-4, Dallas wrote: > was thermal protected.) > -- > Dallas Very few professional repairers will provide service for these aftermarket warranty companies because they don't pay anywhere near the going rate. I still get calls from these companies and I had to threaten one to stop calling. Around these parts, we call these warranty "technicians" trunk monkeys, because they often don't even have a truck but work out of their car. When they're not doing warranty work they pick up bottles and cans on the roadside - it's about the same pay they make doing the warranty work. So what happened is that the thief the warranty company sent out to look at your AC figured he'd get $750 out of you instead of the $225 that they would pay him. To make sure, he threw you under the bus. I don't know if your state has a board that oversees licensing, but you should make a formal complaint. The first thing you should do is cancel the warranty. You should also go on social media and blast both the thief and the warranty provider. I'm sure folks will be thrilled to hear how this thief told the warranty company it was your fault. If you do, post it here and I'll share it. |
| Rob <nomail@example.com>: Sep 13 11:28AM > a large markup that is usually charged and I was told it would be $ 100 > just for the man to come out. That ment I got ripped out of about $ > 200. Over here people are often warned not to use google to find repairmen in case of equipment/plumbing failure as there are loads of "middlemen" that list themselves as "24h service at home" companies and then have regular self-employed workers that they send off and that have to pay hefty amounts to the middlemen to get those jobs. This results in customers being overcharged like 5 times above what would be normal rates. Apparently that "AHS" is a similar company, with an insurance policy in addition to the scam. I would not be surprised when they pay in only a very small fraction of the cases. A repairman usually has no problem in pointing out some "your own fault" thing to an unknowing consumer. |
| Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Sep 13 10:40AM -0400 In article <slrnqnmvbh.1lj.nomail@xs9.xs4all.nl>, nomail@example.com says... > regular self-employed workers that they send off and that have to pay > hefty amounts to the middlemen to get those jobs. This results in > customers being overcharged like 5 times above what would be normal rates. The one my wife called was advertised on TV. The man showed up in a truck with all the lego on it for that company and he had a paper that listed 5 ot 6 groups of standard charges. We were on the lowest as it was just a capacitor replacement that took maybe 10 minuits from the time he left his truck looked at the AC and went back to his truck and replaced the capacitor. It was over $ 300 for that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
| Rob <nomail@example.com>: Sep 13 03:07PM > was just a capacitor replacement that took maybe 10 minuits from the > time he left his truck looked at the AC and went back to his truck and > replaced the capacitor. It was over $ 300 for that. Not only for the capacitor, but also for the TV ADs. |
| KenW <ken1943@invalid.net>: Sep 12 02:23PM -0600 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:12:38 -0000 (UTC), "Dallas" >So, my question is this: Is there anyway possible that dirty coils >could stop a fan motor from running? (I doubt very much that the motor >was thermal protected.) I would call AHS and raise hell. Sounds like a rip off to me. |
| KenW <ken1943@invalid.net>: Sep 12 03:39PM -0600 On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:15:33 -0400, Ralph Mowery >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus The repair companies have to keep certain parts in stock or know a place to buy them locally. My last company had around a $ 2 million stock only because of telephone stock for emergencies. No local place to buy locally. |
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