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KDKA2 <kdkaa@pa.com>: Nov 18 08:42PM -0500 Anyone here have difficulty dealing with this firm? I ordered parts from them to build a kit, but the remainder of the parts needed are outdated. I contacted them, but they take forever to respond and said they would refund but that's been well over a month ago. Anyone know how to get them moving?

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Nov 18 05:57PM -0800 On 2019/11/18 5:42 p.m., KDKA2 wrote: > outdated.  I contacted them, but they take forever to respond and said > they would refund but that's been well over a month ago.  Anyone know > how to get them moving?   If paid by credit card challenge the charge as "Goods not as advertised".   If PayPal complain to PayPal...   and so on...   John :-#)#

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com: Nov 18 06:25PM -0800 >outdated. I contacted them, but they take forever to respond and said >they would refund but that's been well over a month ago. Anyone know >how to get them moving?   Tell them that you will expose them in a world-wide-popular electronics forum.       --   John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc   lunatic fringe electronics

"Tim Williams" <tiwill@seventransistorlabs.com>: Nov 18 09:47PM -0600 <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote in message news:rhk6tepc7vtr0v0bd95kc5qtbi8q9rv724@4ax.com...   > Tell them that you will expose them in a world-wide-popular > electronics forum.   Strange, because you don't visit EEVblog.   Tim   -- Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 18 08:19PM -0800 jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:   -----------------------------------------   > Tell them that you will expose them in a world-wide-popular > electronics forum.   ** That is not near as silly as it sounds.   Cos it actually happened to me, about 13 year ago - after I posted a fairly innocent complaint on usenet about a circuit idea published in an Australian magazine called "Silicon Chip".   Little did I know I was being watched.   Soon got a red hot phone call from the magazine with thinly veiled treats followed up by a letter from a Sydney based lawyer with an American sounding name and writing style: Lynden E. Hooper. It demanded a formal apology in the next 7 days posted on the same forum.   The letter spoke of "defamation act" plus "Chat room" and fair had me in stiches when I read it.   So I whipped off a reply of about 250 words, written in the style of Jed Clampet of the Beverly Hillbillies.   Never heard a thing back.....       .... Phil

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: Nov 19 09:41AM In article <90a7fa1c-d41f-4118-a383-ed0c053340a7@googlegroups.com>, pallison49@gmail.com says...   > ... with thinly veiled treats ...   Is that like "the dance of the seven veils"? ;-)   Mike.

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Nov 19 03:55AM -0800 On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 11:19:10 PM UTC-5, Phil Allison wrote:   The only thing dubious about your story is the "fairly innocent" part.   That is not within your repertoire.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Bill <Bill@William.COM>: Nov 18 12:36PM -0800 Electronic equipment has a rubber like material on the handle.   It is coming off and I want to glue it back on.   What is best to clean both the plastic handle and the rubber-like material ?   What is best glue to use to put it back on.   Probably needs to be slightly flexible since the rubber-like material is the hand grip.

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com>: Nov 19 02:14PM +0800 On 19/11/2019 4:36 am, Bill wrote:   > What is best glue to use to put it back on.   > Probably needs to be slightly flexible since the rubber-like material is > the hand grip.   Try auto paint thinners and re-glue with a rubber cement like contact cement etc.

Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid>: Nov 18 05:31PM On 18/11/19 13:45, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> $40 for 15 inch size... now it looks like at least 3 times that!   > Inflation innit. A price tripling over 20 years doesn't seem that > unlikely.   Much too high. In the UK, inflation from 1999 to 2019 accounted for a price rise of about 72%. <https://www.officialdata.org/uk/inflation/1999?amount=1> You have to go back to 1985 for inflation to triple the value in 2019.         --   Jeff

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 18 12:39PM -0500 On 11/18/19 12:31 PM, Jeff Layman wrote: > price rise of about 72%. > <https://www.officialdata.org/uk/inflation/1999?amount=1> > You have to go back to 1985 for inflation to triple the value in 2019.   Looks like I should have bought one at the time. There's now way I'll shell out 4x for it now. Oh well.

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 18 12:41PM -0500 >> purchase.   > An ordinary clear-glass incendescent bulb makes some nice sparks > inside if you apply HF-HV to one side of the filament.   If you're talking a "plasma globe", yes I have one of those. It is about 14" diameter and cost me $19 at Walmart about 15 years ago. However, I see that even those in many cases appear to be somewhat higher in price, but certainly not nearly as high as the luminglas!

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com>: Nov 18 11:49AM -0800 On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 12:41:49 -0500, Branden   >> An ordinary clear-glass incendescent bulb makes some nice sparks >> inside if you apply HF-HV to one side of the filament.   >If you're talking a "plasma globe", yes I have one of those.   No, I meant an ordinary light bulb.   --   John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement   jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Nov 18 08:17PM On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:49:12 -0800, John Larkin wrote:   > No, I meant an ordinary light bulb.   John means a lightbulb with a tungsten filament in it which burns very brightly when a current is passed through it. You have to have attained great age, like John and I, in order to remember such obsolete atrocities.       -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition.

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com>: Nov 18 12:20PM -0800 On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 20:17:16 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom   >John means a lightbulb with a tungsten filament in it which burns very >brightly when a current is passed through it. You have to have attained >great age, like John and I, in order to remember such obsolete atrocities.   But don't heat the filament, just apply a lot of high voltage, high frequency stuff to it.   --   John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement   jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 18 03:33PM -0500 On 11/18/19 3:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> great age, like John and I, in order to remember such obsolete atrocities.   > But don't heat the filament, just apply a lot of high voltage, high > frequency stuff to it.   Yes, Ive applied clear incandescents to a HV source too! It can produce a different display from an actual plasma globe depending on bulb vacuum or type of gas used. One has to be very careful of the 25 watt incandescents though if applied to high voltage. Some of those used to produce x-rays because they were vacuumed but not backfilled! I think manufacturers have corrected this nowadays, but 20 years ago they were not backfilled.

Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll>: Nov 18 10:59PM +0100 On 18.11.19 21:20, John Larkin wrote: >> great age, like John and I, in order to remember such obsolete atrocities.   > But don't heat the filament, just apply a lot of high voltage, high > frequency stuff to it.   Like putting one in the microwave. To protect the microwave, also put a glass of water inside. The lamp does not need to be in working order.

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com>: Nov 18 08:28PM -0800 Part of that price is the size. If you must have a 15" disk, it's going to cost you. 6" are about $25 to $30.   -- Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. -- Tom Waits

Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>: Nov 18 12:06PM -0800 On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:32:23 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote: > the room warming is about 2kWh per kWh input energy. The efficiency is > over 200%, not bad if you want to dry your house air also."   > Mikek   I don't think it's really 200% though. It won't run when it's not condensing. I think a small amount of heat is generated by the motor and fan, maybe friction of the refrigerant in the pipes, but the majority of the heat produced is the latent heat. It should be 100% efficient but it may not be much more, maybe 110%.   Where would that other kWh of heat come from, or go? Not into the air, because we've already agreed the air is cooled and reheated to effectively no loss or gain. The refrigerant is compressed, expanded, evaporated, and condensed, but again I don't think there is a net loss or gain.

Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Nov 18 04:16PM -0500 In article <c23544f3-605a-43bc-836e-f6503d3a10d1@googlegroups.com>, timothy42b@aol.com says...   > I don't think it's really 200% though. It won't run when it's not condensing. I think a small amount of heat is generated by the motor and fan, maybe friction of the refrigerant in the pipes, but the majority of the heat produced is the latent heat. It should be 100% efficient but it may not be much more, maybe 110%.   > Where would that other kWh of heat come from, or go? Not into the air, because we've already agreed the air is cooled and reheated to effectively no loss or gain. The refrigerant is compressed, expanded, evaporated, and condensed, but again I don't think there is a net loss or gain.   I have not had time to really research it,but seems to me if the condensed water stays in the room long enough to equal the room temperature,   Then the total heat gain would be what ever the electrical power drawn from the AC outlet would make. That heat would be mostly the power it takes to run the compressor and fan motors.   There is no way for the power drawn from the AC outlet to escape from the room except what may go through the walls.

whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Nov 18 05:58PM -0800 On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:16:47 PM UTC-8, Ralph Mowery wrote:   > I have not had time to really research it,but seems to me if the > condensed water stays in the room long enough to equal the room > temperature,   Typically, it DOES reach room temperature (empty the tank every couple of days), but the 'latent heat' also has to include the heat that evaporated that water in the first place; you get heat out of the vapor that originally evaporated the recovered liquid-water, and that shows up in the 'hot' side of the coils, it's not in the water-vapor any more.   Pumping heat of evaporation OUT of the airstream causes the condensation, putting heat into the hot-side coils and raises the outflowing air temperature accordingly.

John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Nov 18 10:03AM -0800 On 2019/11/18 7:08 a.m., Ralph Mowery wrote: > marked through it and made it 3 for $ 1. Sold most of them at the higher > price. People did not do the simple math and see that they were paying > about 8 cents more for each one.   Here in Canada, on our national radio station CBC, we get a fellow named Terry O'Reilley on the air with a show called "Under the Influence" - which is all about advertising. Where this story is leading is he had a great show on pricing where he talked about the above subject and people's perception of prices and what influences them.   The episode is: S3E02 (Archive) - The Psychology of Price   Listen to it here:   http://cbc.mc.tritondigital.com/CBC_UNDERTHEINFLUENCE_P/media/undertheinfluence_20140110_46407.mp3   Or go to the main page at and track down S3E02:   https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcasts/arts-culture/under-the-influence/   I've been listening to him for years, lots of great info on how advertising (both good and bad) influences us.   John :-#)#

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