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tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 24 08:59AM -0800 On Saturday, 23 November 2019 14:18:09 UTC, Fox's Mercantile wrote:   > > yawn   > To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. > To a hack, everything looks like a can't.   life's too short for this much childishness. Sorry.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 24 02:22PM -0600 > life's too short for this much childishness. Sorry.   And yet you persist.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 21 03:53PM -0600 > based boards with zero board damage rate. Early paper > PCBs are somewhat notorious for tracks coming off when > heated.   If you lack the skills to do this, you're a hack. It's that simple. I've been doing this for 50 years now. I don't lift traces, or break off terminals unsoldering things.     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Nov 25 12:28AM On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 08:59:55 -0800, tabbypurr wrote:   > life's too short for this much childishness. Sorry.   The idiot's a troll. Look back at his previous interactions with others here and elsewhere and there's an unmistakable picture that emerges. I've KF'd him. You can waste *so* much time on pricks like that if you're not careful.       -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 24 07:27PM -0600 On 11/24/19 6:28 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: > here and elsewhere and there's an unmistakable picture that emerges. I've > KF'd him. You can waste *so* much time on pricks like that if you're not > careful.   Oh dear, I've been kill filed by a hack. What ever shall I do?       -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 24 10:10PM -0800 On Monday, 25 November 2019 00:28:56 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote: > here and elsewhere and there's an unmistakable picture that emerges. I've > KF'd him. You can waste *so* much time on pricks like that if you're not > careful.   he's aping slowman.

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Nov 24 04:50PM On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 10:23:52 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote:   > Yes I did, that's why I said you're hack.   No, specifically you said and I quote: "I pointed out that you're a hack" which implies you have some sort of superior cognitive ability which the regulars here don't possess. Like as if everyone else needs an obnoxious *MORON* like you to spoon feed them the obvious!         -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 24 02:24PM -0600 On 11/24/19 10:50 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote: > which implies you have some sort of superior cognitive ability which the > regulars here don't possess. Like as if everyone else needs an obnoxious > *MORON* like you to spoon feed them the obvious!   And there you have it... You're a hack. You just said so yourself.       -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 21 03:49PM -0600 >>> NT   >> Like I said, you're a hack.   > like I said you're childish.   That's your opinion. My opinion is that you're hack.     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Nov 22 09:22AM On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:49:38 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote:   > My opinion is that you're hack.   My opinion is you're Phil Alison and ICTFP.       -- This message may be freely reproduced without limit or charge only via the Usenet protocol. Reproduction in whole or part through other protocols, whether for profit or not, is conditional upon a charge of GBP10.00 per reproduction. Publication in this manner via non-Usenet protocols constitutes acceptance of this condition.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 22 04:22AM -0600 On 11/22/19 3:22 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote: > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:49:38 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote:   >> My opinion is that you're hack.   > My opinion is you're Phil Alison and ICTFP.   Oh look, the hacks are circling the wagons.       -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 24 10:08PM -0800 On Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:11:22 UTC, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > I pointed out the Tabby is hack. > You two have been having a love fest trying to justify yourselves.   > Get a room.   yet another example of your dishonesty in attempting to convince people of something that has no ground in reality. You have become not worth reading. Bye.     NT

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 24 10:09PM -0800 On Sunday, 24 November 2019 00:02:36 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote: > > "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's > > all."   > I think I can see your problem now: you're a MORON.   he's become slowman mark 2, a fool with a problem.

Mikko OH2HVJ <mikko.syrjalahti@nospam.fi>: Nov 25 07:57AM +0200 >> what should it read resistance-wise when cold?   > ... and (I forgot first time around)... why have they put a couple of > turns in each of the leads?   As others noted, it is a thermal fuse.   The turns are there for pliers or other tool to absorb the heat while soldering the thermal fuse to the PCB. It's quite easy to blow a low temperature rating thermal fuse while soldering.   What't the schematic like, are the resistors connected in such a way that they would heat during some failure condition and blow the fuse ?   -- mikko

Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>: Nov 21 06:33PM -0800 On 11/21/19 6:09 PM, Clifford Heath wrote: >> Eric   > How in heck do yu expect help with a decompiler when you haven't told > anyone what type of CPU it is? It's even harder...ladder logic isn't a "cpu machine language" as such, it's an interpreter running in some native cpu machine language...so there would be a whole other layer of translation involved in order to produce anything a human might be able to comprehend. Unless your computer is made from relays...but why bother.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 21 08:33PM -0600 On 11/21/19 8:09 PM, Clifford Heath wrote: >> Eric   > How in heck do yu expect help with a decompiler when you haven't told > anyone what type of CPU it is?   Please try to pay attention. "The control in question is a FANUC 3T."       -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: Nov 22 03:22PM +1100 On 22/11/19 1:33 pm, Fox's Mercantile wrote: >> anyone what type of CPU it is?   > Please try to pay attention. > "The control in question is a FANUC 3T."   That's the packaged controller. It contains a CPU. The CPU interprets some ladder codes.   It's highly unlikely that the information required to decode the EPROM has ever been published. This sort of thing is usually trade secret.   If the CPU is known, and the interpreter ROM is read, there's some possibility of using a decompiler.

etpm@whidbey.com: Nov 21 05:35PM -0800 I'm pretty bsure this is a real long shot. I have looked online but have not yet found something that will help. So I ask here. The EPROM reader/programmer arrived yesterday and it works fine. The UV EPROM eraser should be here in a day or two. Amazon apologized for the delay. So I can copy the EPROMs just fine but I would really like the ladder programs so that I can make some changes to the machine. I understand that the decompiled ladder will noit have mnemonics but maybe I can decipher it anyway. The control in question is a FANUC 3T. Thanks, Eric

Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: Nov 22 01:09PM +1100 > The control in question is a FANUC 3T. > Thanks, > Eric   How in heck do yu expect help with a decompiler when you haven't told anyone what type of CPU it is?

Paul Drahn <pdrahn@jodeco.com>: Nov 24 05:33PM -0800 > out of my experience but with some guidance I'm hoping to be able to > decipher the ladder. > Eric   Just be aware that sometimes trash is included in EPROMS to stop what you are trying to do!   Paul

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 24 04:42PM -0500 Ok, my previous post concerned the outlandish prices for some neat looking HV devices originally from the late 90's: Luminglas discs. I was successful finding several, and at good prices comparable to what I would have paid in 2000 for some nice used ones. However.....   I have been on a new quest to try and find a large plasma ball. True, they are all over the Internet, but the most common sizes seem to be 8" diameter or less and I am looking for 12" diameter or more! However, the price seems to increase maybe as much as 20 fold going from 8 to 12 inch size! I see some on eBay in 12" size for just under $200, but I'm hoping to do better. Problem with the used ones I see is that the sellers don't specify globe size and 99% most definitely are 8" or less diameter.     Suggestions would be welcome. One thing I tried googling for was some sort of a history on plasma globes with maybe larger ones from the past mentioned. Other than Spencer's 12" Megavolt, that's all I could come up with (and, incidentally, the person wants more for the Megavolt than a new 12" one!).   Thank you.

bitrex <user@example.net>: Nov 24 05:31PM -0500 On 11/24/19 4:42 PM, Branden wrote: > up with (and, incidentally, the person wants more for the Megavolt than > a new 12" one!).   > Thank you.   The very large type you see in science museums and such are probably custom jobs I don't think there's enough demand for globes of larger size to make an industry of selling anything but one-offs.

bitrex <user@example.net>: Nov 24 05:35PM -0500 On 11/24/19 5:31 PM, bitrex wrote:   > The very large type you see in science museums and such are probably > custom jobs I don't think there's enough demand for globes of larger > size to make an industry of selling anything but one-offs.   I'd perhaps talk to someone on the facility of a place like which has one, might be able to at least find parts or who made theirs. I'd be prepared to pay a few G at least for a two-foot diameter one or such....

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 24 04:40PM -0500 Ok, my previous post concerned the outlandish prices for some neat looking HV devices originally from the late 90's: Luminglas discs. I was successful finding several, and at good prices comparable to what I would have paid in 2000 for some nice used ones. However.....   I have been on a new quest to try and find a large plasma ball. True, they are all over the Internet, but the most common sizes seem to be 8" diameter or less and I am looking for 12" diameter or more! However, the price seems to increase maybe as much as 20 fold going from 8 to 12 inch size! I see some on eBay in 12" size for just under $200, but I'm hoping to do better. Problem with the used ones I see is that the sellers don't specify globe size and 99% most definitely are 8" or less diameter.     Suggestions would be welcome. One thing I tried googling for was some sort of a history on plasma globes with maybe larger ones from the past mentioned. Other than Spencer's 12" Megavolt, that's all I could come up with (and, incidentally, the person wants more for the Megavolt than a new 12" one!).   Thank you.

Branden <brand555at@verizondot.net>: Nov 24 04:30PM -0500 On 11/17/19 7:27 PM, Branden wrote: > devices being used in Star Trek The Next Generation used behind the > heads of Borg drones.  They used to be in Spencers too available for > purchase.   Just wanted to update that I now actually have thee of the Luminglas displays! Although eBay prices are out of this world, I found all of these either on Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist and all for less than $50 each. A lot more reasonably priced! I remember them charging anywhere from $25-50 back in the late 90's early 00's when they were in Spencer's and elsewhere. If they are indeed collector items now, I may have three chances in the future to sell if I ever grow tired of them.

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