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TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net>: Nov 06 06:33PM -0500 Ok, this post is for all the people making a big fuss when I asked about stun gun components. I got ahold of one this week called VIPERTEK VTS-881, a small red unit with a claimed "35 billion" volts. This design comes in many forms and is marketed by different firms with Vipertek being only one.   First tests were spark gap distance. Just under 1/2". Spark gap is adjustable and discharges really slow down/ stop at 1/2" or more. So, what does that tell you about voltage? For one thing, no where near the volts advertised.   Next tests were one me. Now keep in mind before you shout, if you are in a country where they are illegal, then don't read the post and certainly don't reply. If I get any heat from this report, you go into the kill file immediately so I won't see any further posts. Where I am in the US, they are LEGAL.   I first adjusted the spark gap for maximum distance, then tested myself in six different spots: right arm, stomach, upper leg, side, foot, and finally shoulder. Each spot was energized with electrodes pressed against the skin for 2-4 seconds (there's no way this thing is going to penetrate through most clothing, by the way). It took four tries before I even began to feel much other than a tingle. Finally, pain increased a bit in arm and shoulder. If I were to scale it, I would say 5/10 at most. Would it have stopped me from attacking someone who used it one me? No.   I don't know what all the fuss was about. It's clear that these are being falsely marketed from the start and giving people a false sense of security. I'd be more concerned over this then my irrelevant request for substitute parts. Now, that being said, keep in mind that I am 6' 1" tall and 215 lbs and healthy. You still wouldn't want to use this on the elderly or anyone with heart issues or a pacemaker, nor is everyone else going to respond to the shocks the way I did. However, after the apparent rukus I made with my prior post, I felt it was time to see just how much relevancy there was behind it. Now it should be clear. Bye.

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com>: Nov 07 07:39AM +0800 On 7/11/2019 7:33 am, TheExperimenter wrote: > else going to respond to the shocks the way I did.  However, after the > apparent rukus I made with my prior post, I felt it was time to see just > how much relevancy there was behind it.  Now it should be clear.  Bye.   Well there ya go !! feel better now?

TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net>: Nov 06 06:41PM -0500 On 11/6/19 6:39 PM, Rheilly Phoull wrote: >> was time to see just how much relevancy there was behind it.  Now it >> should be clear.  Bye.   > Well there ya go !! feel better now?   It just goes to show irrelevancy at its finest and how easy it often is to defeat.

Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll>: Nov 07 02:44AM +0100 On 07.11.19 0:33, TheExperimenter wrote: > else going to respond to the shocks the way I did. However, after the > apparent rukus I made with my prior post, I felt it was time to see just > how much relevancy there was behind it. Now it should be clear. Bye.   Yes. Plonk.

bitrex <user@example.net>: Nov 06 09:13PM -0500 On 11/6/19 6:33 PM, TheExperimenter wrote: > else going to respond to the shocks the way I did.  However, after the > apparent rukus I made with my prior post, I felt it was time to see just > how much relevancy there was behind it.  Now it should be clear.  Bye.   Yo you ever tried dating girls or something to get a thrill? It's a hobby less hazardous to your health...sometimes cheaper, too

TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net>: Nov 06 09:16PM -0500 On 11/6/19 9:13 PM, bitrex wrote: >> should be clear.  Bye.   > Yo you ever tried dating girls or something to get a thrill? It's a > hobby less hazardous to your health...sometimes cheaper, too   Yes to the above, but it was necessary to make a point on unwarranted behavior first.

Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Nov 06 11:19PM -0500 In article <qpvl8e$hvg$1@dont-email.me>, theexp8712@noaol.net says... > VTS-881, a small red unit with a claimed "35 billion" volts. This > design comes in many forms and is marketed by different firms with > Vipertek being only one.   That 35 billion volts should be a tipoff the thing is a toy.   The 35 billion volts would probably throw an arc miles long.   Lightning is reported ot have from 100 million to 1 billion volts.     Tasers are only around 50,000 volts

Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>: Nov 07 04:50AM > adjustable and discharges really slow down/ stop at 1/2" or more. So, > what does that tell you about voltage? For one thing, no where near the > volts advertised.   It's about 3000V/mm so ballpark 35kV   35GV would produce gamma rays.       -- When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

bitrex <user@example.net>: Nov 07 12:14AM -0500 On 11/6/19 11:50 PM, Jasen Betts wrote: >> volts advertised.   > It's about 3000V/mm so ballpark 35kV   > 35GV would produce gamma rays.   The OP didn't have to tell us he was American it's entirely natural process for an American to not at all believe what some engineers say about it and have to shock themselves multiple times with a stun gun to figure out that it doesn't actually produce 35 billion volts, and write an angry letter to the mfgr that it didn't at all blast them straight thru a wall when it was turned on. what a rip off.   I have some understanding of the psychology of my compatriots. /shrug

TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net>: Nov 07 02:55AM -0500 On 11/7/19 12:14 AM, bitrex wrote: > figure out that it doesn't actually produce 35 billion volts, and write > an angry letter to the mfgr that it didn't at all blast them straight > thru a wall when it was turned on. what a rip off.   Unfortunately, such an angry letter would do no good since *many* venders are selling these identical units under many different brand names and models.   Well, before I tested it, I did some research. Information is available online as to its true voltage and current, both of which were the determining factors to test or not.

Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk>: Nov 07 09:07AM On 06/11/2019 23:33, TheExperimenter wrote: > adjustable and discharges really slow down/ stop at 1/2" or more.  So, > what does that tell you about voltage?  For one thing, no where near the > volts advertised.   Depends a bit on air pressure and a lot on humidity but probably somewhere between 10kV and 30kV if it will only jump half an inch.   http://highvoltageconnection.com/articles/paschen-curve.html   Could even be less if the electrodes are sharp and pointed.   These are real sparks and real men inside the chain mail suits:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpjcOWwiI4   (skip the first minute of dross)   This would stop your attacker but it isn't very portable.   > else going to respond to the shocks the way I did.  However, after the > apparent rukus I made with my prior post, I felt it was time to see just > how much relevancy there was behind it.  Now it should be clear.  Bye.   Darwin award candidate.   -- Regards, Martin Brown

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Nov 07 06:11AM -0800 Vos non potestis figere stultus.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 07 08:37AM -0600 > Vos non potestis figere stultus   Or as they say around here, "You can't fix stupid."   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Tim R <timothy42b@aol.com>: Nov 07 07:47AM -0800 On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 4:07:27 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:   > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpjcOWwiI4   > (skip the first minute of dross)   > This would stop your attacker but it isn't very portable.   Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed that video.   Why test on yourself? Just go on youtube and watch hundreds of videos of police tasering people. Most of the time they are not incapacitated, they just keep screaming "stop tasering me."

TheExperimenter <theexp8712@noaol.net>: Nov 07 11:16AM -0500 On 11/7/19 10:47 AM, Tim R wrote:   >> This would stop your attacker but it isn't very portable.   > Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed that video.   > Why test on yourself? Just go on youtube and watch hundreds of videos of police tasering people. Most of the time they are not incapacitated, they just keep screaming "stop tasering me."   2 reasons:   1) To prove that the devices being marketed to the public are *not* the same devices the police are using (aka false advertising) and   2) To address all those here with unwarranted concern. There is concern, but is not the concern that should have been addressed.

Fletcher <fletcherfletch@example.com>: Nov 07 04:53AM -0500 What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Nov 07 10:19AM Fletcher wrote:   > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg   Maybe 3M DP8005, but it's not cheap, and the dual tube syringe is meant to be used with a dedicated applicator

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 07 02:26AM -0800 Fletcher wrote: ---------------   > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear?   ** Doubt there is any glue for Nylon under high stress.     > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg     ** I might be tempted to make a 1mm thick aluminium disc with large hole to fit over the broken gear. Then fasten it with numerous 2mm or 6BA nuts, washers and bolts.   Repaired a few broken plastic things with similar re-enforcing plates.   Worked for years afterwards.   That the item is of low value makes it more rewarding.       .... Phil

John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Nov 07 04:24AM -0800 On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 4:53:46 AM UTC-5, Fletcher wrote: > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg > If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?   Nylon is tough to bond. I've never seen any adhesive do more than support it's own weight at best.   In any case, the gear is so thin that edge adhesion won't hold even with a suitable adhesive assuming one exists. I've done plastic gears like that by epoxying a suitable size washer on both sides if you have the clearance. But those were regular plastic. I don't know if that will work on nylon even given the large contact area of two washers and epoxy. You can always drill through the gear and washer sandwich and pin both sides together. It also looks like it has tooth damage as well, so if you get it to work it will thump as it rotates as long as it doesn't jam.   Other than that, an old timer with a jeweler's lathe could make one for you out of metal, or if you know a tool maker.

Tim Schwartz <tim@bristolnj.com>: Nov 07 08:56AM -0500 On 11/7/2019 4:53 AM, Fletcher wrote: > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg > If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?   Hi,   I bought a 3D printed replacement gear for my Boston electric pencil sharpener for around $10 on e-bay. Now there are several vendors, and a couple of variations, so you could search e-bay for:   "Boston pencil sharpener gear" and find several choices.   Regards, Tim

Tim Schwartz <tim@bristolnj.com>: Nov 07 08:57AM -0500 On 11/7/2019 4:53 AM, Fletcher wrote: > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg > If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?     Hi,   I bought a 3D printed replacement gear for my Boston electric pencil sharpener for around $10 on e-bay. Now there are several vendors, and a couple of variations, so you could search e-bay for:   "Boston pencil sharpener gear" and find several choices.   Regards, Tim

"\"Retired"@home.com: Nov 07 09:13AM -0500 On 11/7/19 4:53 AM, Fletcher wrote: > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg > If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?   Is this what you need ?   https://www.amazon.com/Boston-Gear-YP3280-Molded-Delrin/dp/B004NYAJQ4/ref=sr_1_23?crid=2W1IXPQCBB690&keywords=boston+gear+32+teeth&qid=1573135820&sprefix=boston+gear%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-23#feature-bullets-btf   or https://tinyurl.com/y6kqhouq

Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Nov 07 10:14AM -0500 On 11/7/2019 4:53 AM, Fletcher wrote: > What adhesive to repair nylon halved pencil sharpener gear? > http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_image5623.jpg > If it fails, what online pencil sharpener do you recommend?   No adhesive will work well for that type of break but cyanoacrylates are supposed to work on nylon.     How does an online pencil sharpener work? Put the pencil into the wifi?

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 06 02:57PM -0800 On Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:31:27 UTC, Phil Allison wrote:   > ** Three deliberate lies in one short sentence.   > Might be a bullshit record.   > ..... Phil   you've outstupided yourself.

legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Nov 06 12:12PM -0500 >sensor. Balancing terminals seem inactive.   >Can anyone recommend a tutorial on poking a serial port >for status / data register contents ?   <snip>   Just had J1939 dumped in my lap. Without the vendors com software, I'm afraid this is beyond poking.   RL

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