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jjhudak4@gmail.com: Apr 27 09:23AM -0700 I have a few Fluke DMMs that I want to get backup probes for. My ideal probe is one that will accept screw-on accessories such as various size alligator clips, micro-clips, and mounting lugs. A 'kit' with all of these accessories would be idea. Would like the probes to be decent quality. The closer to OEM Fluke or Pomona quality with more reasonable prices is what I have in mind.   Most of the aftermarket stuff on ebay seems to be junk. I did some searching on aftermarket probe sets and found this one which seems to be a good match to what I am looking for. https://probemaster.com/8000-series-kits/ I've checked some of the electronic suppliers that I know of (Globe, Newark, etc.) and have found a few options but not sure how good they are.   Suggestions for alternatives or other potential suppliers are welcome. Thanks J

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Apr 27 12:29PM -0400 > Suggestions for alternatives or other potential suppliers are welcome. > Thanks > J   The Probemaster ones are _gorgeous_, and insanely cheap for what you get. The wires have very supple silicone insulation, not the cheap PVC crap you get on the Chinese ones. The gold plating also holds up well, though it does eventually wear out on the sharp points.   Other than that, they stink. ;)   I don't use anything else on my meters.   Cheers   Phil Hobbs   -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510   http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Apr 26 10:41AM -0700 On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:35:01 -0400, Bob Engelhardt   >It was 10 years old & much used, so I got my money's worth. It was also >a favorite tool, so another one is going to be ordered; a >latest-and-greatest one.   This tool? <https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Drivers/2450-20> The 2450-20 is the original M12 model. The 2450-22 is the laster Gen 2 model.   The switch and PCB assembly is available: <https://www.mmtoolparts.com/store/media/diagram/files/2450-20_b59a.pdf> <https://www.mmtoolparts.com/store/media/diagram/files/2450-20_b59b.pdf> <https://www.mmtoolparts.com/store/media/diagram/files/2450-20_b59c.pdf> Note that there are 3 models. 2450-20 B59A 2450-20 B59B 2450-20 B59C I'm not sure I have the correct diagram to match your trunacted model number. The PCB (item #5) costs as much as a replacement driver: <https://www.mmtoolparts.com/store/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=14-46-1705>   Maybe you should consider buying a parts driver and swap PCB's? <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Milwaukee-12v-1-4-Cordless-Hex-Impact-Driver-2450-20-M12-for-Parts-or-Repair/153907966118> $24 is too much. Off the seller some lesser amount and shipping. He says it "doesn't work" which can mean anything. Ask for details.   More of the same: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/MILWAUKEE-2462-20-M12-Li-Ion-1-4-Cordless-Hex-Impact-Driver-Tool/223983067307> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Milwaukee-2450-20-M12-12v-Impact-Driver-Bare-Tool/274303290853> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=milwaukee+m12+2450-20> (dig through the listings).   Good luck. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net>: Apr 27 09:46AM -0400 On 4/26/2020 1:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > <https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Fastening/Impact-Drivers/2450-20> > The 2450-20 is the original M12 model. The 2450-22 is the laster Gen > 2 model. ....   2450 is the base model number. The -20 or -22 means bare tool or kit. The 2450 is not longer available - the 2462 is its direct descendant. The 2553 is the latest and greatest.   The 2450 PCB part - $60 A 2462-20 (Amazon) - $50 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E6JRJUO/ A 2553-20 (Amazon) - $99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZYMK1W/   My nature is reactionary: the old has been good, why do I need the new? But I fight that & in this case I'm going for the 2553.   > Maybe you should consider buying a parts driver and swap PCB's? > <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Milwaukee-12v-1-4-Cordless-Hex-Impact-Driver-2450-20-M12-for-Parts-or-Repair/153907966118> > ... He says it "doesn't work" which can mean anything. Ask for details. ...   I volunteer at Habitat and Milwaukee has a deal with them whereby Habitat gets tools from the Milwaukee return/refurb facility for next to nothing. I get to repair some of those tools and the majority have bad switch-PCB assemblies. So I would not ever take a chance with a doesn't-work eBay tool.

Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net>: Apr 20 12:55PM On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 04:46:45 -0700 (PDT), John-Del wrote: >> To my surprise none of the usual electron parts houses have them (Mouser, Digikey, avnet, allied, newark, etc.) Amazon has them ranging in price from $6 to $10 from varying sources and from what I see in the reviews, all parts are of questionable quality. To my surprise, they are available through Walmart! >> Not sure where to get the OEM part - suggestions? pointers appreciated.   > Walmart is a poor man's Amazon. Many of the things sold on Walmart's online site are deliverd from someone's basement, and I don't know if Walmart would offer the same protections as Amazon, as good or as bad as that might be.   Walmart == Made In China Store   Even those who lower their expectations are often disappointed.

etpm@whidbey.com: Apr 20 12:25PM -0700 On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:20:27 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net> wrote:   >On 4/20/20 1:57 PM, discounts@iphone.bell.com wrote:   >> *** iPhone SUPER-SPECIAL-DISCOUNT 80% OFF   >Go fuck yourself I randomly checked several newsgroups for sample messages and the above message and the covid message were the only messages. It's like these assholes posted to every newsgroup. What a waste of time. Eric

Rob <nomail@example.com>: Apr 21 03:07PM > On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:18:22 PM UTC-7, pf...@aol.com wrote: >> Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599 > Is that telephone number really complicit with this spam? If so, we all should call it and personally let them know how grateful we are.   Looking at the URL structure this is some service (grex.com) that hosts user accounts (~henced) where someone has hosted a page. That someone may not at all be related to this spam, it may be a hacked account.   The article was posted on usenet via another service, but that account already has been shut down. Of course it will be quite easy to create a new account for the next run.

Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com>: Apr 18 11:21PM -0700 <snip> >   As you are aware, it breaks where at the point where it needs the > most reinforcement.   >                                               Mikek   Thanks Mikek, that would make for a very strong joint, if my current fix breaks I'll see if there's enough plastic material to support this approach. Cheers.

Mike Mocha <mocha@mailexcite.com>: Apr 20 07:04AM Wow! I just got back on Usenet after literally 18+ years and it's great to see this is one of the last text groups still active with real people talking! Good to see Sam Goldwasser and others still on here. Sam incorporated a "tip" I made regarding vacuum tube televisions on his TV FAQ back in 1997! I had a lot of great memories lurking and posting in this group from 1995 to 1997. Thanks all!

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