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cjmhkim41@gmail.com: Aug 04 08:50AM -0700

how to reset
BCO Update
Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll>: Aug 04 06:00PM +0200

> how to reset
> BCO Update
 
Invert the synaptic relay, them remove the stutter pin,
and press the bi-lateral flightcontrol stick.
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Aug 03 10:16AM -0700

On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 11:37:02 PM UTC-4, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> vehicle.
 
> Clearly Toyota should have been taking more care with their American
> workers.
 
How silly. There has never been any difference between American assembled Japanese cars and those assembled in Japan, or any other assy point around the world for that matter The Tacoma is a Toyota.
 
But your motivation hasn't escaped me. So, how about the 4Runner then?
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jensen/2018/12/18/new-class-action-claims-more-toyota-trucks-have-dangerous-rusty-frames/#5f5939b77302
 
Every one built in Japan, ie NOT in America.
 
Or this link which describes Toyotas rusting away since the early 70s.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/trucks/a6630/top-automotive-engineering-failures-toyota-truck-rust/
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Aug 03 12:04PM -0700

The 1973 Toyta Corona that I owned rusted quite badly. Only 1000 were imported. No spare parts, and very shoddy design of the disk brakes. They worked, going forward, but they would eject the pads is you had to slam them on in re reverse. The emergency brakes were a joke, as well.
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Aug 04 05:51AM +1000


> And you dare to criticize American spelling?
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
**Let's add all those idiotic American words, like 'burglarize' (the
correct word is 'burgle' (that is a phenomenal FOUR extra letters for
the idiotic American spelling), 'anethesiologist', rather than the
correct 'anaesthetist' and so on. Americans tend to use a lot of surplus
words to describe simple things. 'Absolutely' rather than 'yes' springs
to mind.
 
Plug that into your calculator.
 
One concession I will make to Americans' desire to make words simpler is
that surrounding the pronunciation of 'lieutenant'. The American
pronunciation does make sense.
 
-:)
 
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Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com>: Aug 04 01:48AM +0530

On 8/4/2020 1:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> that surrounding the pronunciation of 'lieutenant'. The American
> pronunciation does make sense.
 
> -:)
 
Their 'El-Tee' is shorter too.
mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike): Aug 03 09:38PM +0100

In article <hor86cF5obvU1@mid.individual.net>,
 
>'Absolutely' rather than 'yes' springs to mind.
 
Oh that is *super* annoying.
 
The latest trend in avoiding using "very" in its correct context :(
 
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Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Aug 04 07:47AM +1000

On 4/08/2020 6:38 am, Mike wrote:
 
>> 'Absolutely' rather than 'yes' springs to mind.
 
> Oh that is *super* annoying.
 
> The latest trend in avoiding using "very" in its correct context :(
 
**Don't get me started. The term 'very unique' springs to mind. YIKES!
 
Then again: I watch 'Escape to the Country' from British TV. Every time
some nong says: "Oh, that is very homely". I just want to scream.
 
Look up 'homely' in the dictionary, you stupid poms.
 
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Pimpom <nobody@nowhere.com>: Aug 04 09:56AM +0530

On 8/4/2020 3:17 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
 
> Then again: I watch 'Escape to the Country' from British TV. Every time
> some nong says: "Oh, that is very homely". I just want to scream.
 
> Look up 'homely' in the dictionary, you stupid poms.
 
Here in multi-racial multi-cultural India, arranged marriage is
the norm among the majority races (not with my own minority
people). I'm both amused and aghast to see matrimonial ads in
newspapers and magazines almost invariably describing a
prospective bride as 'homely'.
 
Indian English is based on British English but I didn't know the
Brits used 'homely' the same way.
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Aug 04 08:50AM +0100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
 
> Every time some nong says: "Oh, that is very homely". I just want to
> scream.
> Look up 'homely' in the dictionary, you stupid poms.
 
That's because it's a programme made by brits, for brits, and that's the
way we use the word, to describe homes. Feel free to export your tv
shows to us and use words the way you use them .... personally I've
never heard "homely" used to describe a person.
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Aug 04 09:34AM +0100

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 06:06:05 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com"
 
>https://www.calculator.net/future-value-calculator.html?ctype=endamount&cyearsv=300&cstartingprinciplev=417&cinterestratev=4.5&ccontributeamountv=417&ciadditionat1=end&printit=0&x=52&y=13
 
>$5,259,278,881.34 And that is only if the first-cost is *as little as * £417 *.
 
>And you dare to criticize American spelling?
 
Wow! So *that* was how the Americans were able to overtake the British
economically over the course of the 1920s? Astounding!
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Aug 04 09:41AM +0100


> OK - let us discuss the "British U" such as in colo u r and so forth.
 
The only reason you don't put U's in "color", is because you over-use
them in "nucular" god knows what you do with all the spare E's?
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Aug 04 07:22PM +1000

On 4/08/2020 2:26 pm, Pimpom wrote:
> among the majority races (not with my own minority people). I'm both
> amused and aghast to see matrimonial ads in newspapers and magazines
> almost invariably describing a prospective bride as 'homely'.
 
**YIKES!
 
 
> Indian English is based on British English but I didn't know the Brits
> used 'homely' the same way.
 
**I've seen hundreds of episodes of Escape to the Country. Only once,
have I heard the correct word: 'Homey' used. Even from seemly well
educated Poms, the term: 'homely' is most often used.
 
 
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Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Aug 04 07:25PM +1000

On 4/08/2020 5:50 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
> way we use the word, to describe homes.  Feel free to export your tv
> shows to us and use words the way you use them .... personally I've
> never heard "homely" used to describe a person.
 
**Sorry, but I am unable to access the Oxford English Dictionary. I went
for second best:
 
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/homely
 
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/homey
 
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Aug 04 10:47AM +0100

Trevor Wilson wrote:
 
>> tv shows to us and use words the way you use them .... personally I've
>> never heard "homely" used to describe a person.
 
> **Sorry, but I am unable to access the Oxford English Dictionary.
 
Let me help you out ... British usage of the word is in sense 1 or sense 2a
 
================================
 
homely, adj.
 
Etymology: home + -ly suffix compare Middle Dutch heimelīke, heimelijk
 
1.
 
Of or belonging to a household or home. Also: of or belonging to a
person's own country or native land. rare after 16th cent.
 
2.
 
a. Characteristic or suggestive of a home (esp. a modest one) or of
domestic life; ordinary, everyday; simple, plain, unsophisticated;
rough, rustic. In later use also (chiefly British, of a place or its
atmosphere, etc.): cosy, comfortable.
 
b. Of a person: of humble background; having a plain or simple nature;
unsophisticated; rustic.
 
c. Esp. of a person: of plain appearance; unattractive. Now North American.
 
3.
 
a. With †to, with. Of a person or a person's manner: familiar; friendly;
intimate. rare after 17th cent.
 
b. Chiefly Scottish. Kind, kindly; courteous. Now rare.
 
c. Of things: familiar; well-known. Now rare.
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Aug 04 05:19AM -0700

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 4:41:10 AM UTC-4, Andy Burns wrote:
 
> > OK - let us discuss the "British U" such as in colo u r and so forth.
> The only reason you don't put U's in "color", is because you over-use
> them in "nucular" god knows what you do with all the spare E's?
 
Keep in mind that the Average American:
 
Does not have a college education, including an Associate Degree (60%).
Does not have a passport (58%).
Speaks one language – badly (74%).
Has never traveled voluntarily more than 200 miles from his/her birthplace (57%).
Has never visited a foreign country, not even Mexico or Canada (71%).
Cannot name the Speaker of the House, even today (82%)
Cannot name the three branches of government (64%)
Cannot read at a college level (83%)
Cannot read for content (54%). This person cannot follow written-only directions.
60% of American Households do not buy any book in a year.
Does not believe in Evolution (42% creationism, 32% evolution, 26% no opinion).
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Aug 04 02:08PM +0100

On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 08:50:25 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
 
>way we use the word, to describe homes. Feel free to export your tv
>shows to us and use words the way you use them .... personally I've
>never heard "homely" used to describe a person.
 
Homely is used in N. America as a uphamism for ugly. Usually applied
to young girls. In English English it just means cozy and comfortable
and is only applied to residential dwellings.
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Aug 04 06:33AM -0700

> Homely is used in N. America as a uphamism for ugly. Usually applied
> to young girls. In English English it just means cozy and comfortable
> and is only applied to residential dwellings.
 
That would be euphemism. Which is also an incorrect use of the word. Homely in the US is the functional equivalent of plain, even ugly. Which is its direct meaning.
 
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/homely
 
However, a true euphemism would be something like "lacks prettiness" or "she does not present well" as applied to a young girl.
 
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/euphemism
 
Funny thing: The average native English speaker recognizes about 20,000 words, and uses about 5,000. College graduates roughly double the recognition number and the use number. This against an estimated 1,022,000 words (including obsolete words, derivatives and jargon) in the English Language, and 171,476 words in current use (OED).
 
Guys and gals: Words are tools, often weapons. Working with dull blades is dangerous - to the user and others as well.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Aug 03 01:56PM -0400

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 08:29:34 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com"
 
>You need to understand that the recording medium on an R or RW DVD and on a commercially printed DVD are entirely different. The one is a dye that is 'burnt' by the laser, the other is quite literally stamped. Over time, the dye will deteriorate even by playing - which is via the laser at a lower power than when burning - and become less contrasting. At which point it becomes more difficult for the laser to read it. Not true of a stamped DVD. I have always taken the position that a DVD R or RW is a volatile storage medium, not for the ages, as it is chemical in nature.
 
>Peter Wieck
>Melrose Park, PA
 
I realize that these DVD-R media have a half-life,
however - being unable to detect a blank DVD-R or
DVD-R from multiple vendors probably indicates that
the issue lies outside the media itself.
 
Don't you agree?
 
Strongly suspect a Windows issue - though how it could
surface in both a W2K and a W7 system, simultaneously,
is begging belief. I'm concentrating on the W7 system
as priority, as the internet-isolated W2K system has
limited and specific duties that only seldom requires
reading from DVD data.
 
After 30 years, you'd think that a Disk Operating
System could at least be reliable in operating
disks and in logging/reporting its problems.
 
Second suspect is laser aging - but you'd think that
would affect writing only, not reading. Seem a lot
of internal DVD rewriters have still to be cleared
from decade-old inventory. Do lasers age wwhen in the
box?
 
RL
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Aug 03 01:59PM -0400

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 09:38:54 -0700 (PDT), abrsvc
 
>I would test the DVD player with a "stamped" DVD. If these also fail, I would suspect the optics that may be failing. DVDs will fail to read far sooner than CDs on the same player if the laser is starting to fail.
 
Commercial DVDs read fine.
 
I had an issue at one time with the W7 unit, where
it stopped recognizing audio CDs. (CD and DVD data oK)
Got out of that one, somehow.
 
RL
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Aug 03 11:25AM -0700

> of internal DVD rewriters have still to be cleared
> from decade-old inventory. Do lasers age wwhen in the
> box?
 
Laser aging- sure. But a laser ages in a non-linear way in most cases, and also the reading process is subject to "Cliff Effect". It is fine until it isn't.
The process of burning a DVD is very slow to avoid corrupting the data. This is somewhat tolerant of a weaker laser. Reading on the other hand is much faster, and so less tolerant.
You may have a confluence of causes - weaker laser, aged DVDs conspiring together. As you suggest, it may also be a software issue, but that should be an easy and specific fix (patch).
 
"Aging in the box" That would depend on what elements age. Lubricants (if any) - will age. Motor bearings will age, used or not. Anyone who has worked on clocks will tell you that if a clock sits for a very long time, it should be cleaned and (VERY CAREFULLY) lubricated before re-starting. I doubt if the electronics will age in any significant way, assuming proper wrapping and storage conditions. We are long past the days when capacitors had a definite life whether in use or not. And I suspect that the same would apply to a solid-state laser.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Aug 03 12:25PM -0700

In article <61jgif9nvasmcc1v10gg0v8u26g3gsvcqi@4ax.com>,
>as priority, as the internet-isolated W2K system has
>limited and specific duties that only seldom requires
>reading from DVD data.
 
I'd suggest this, to trouble-shoot: download a "live Linux"
distribution (there are quite a few), write the .iso file to a USB
stick, and boot it. All of them should be able to read a burned DVD
and (usually) mount the filesystem on it. Most of them come with (or
have the download capability to fetch) DVD-burning software such as
Brasero.
 
This would let you test the same drives (with their firmware) and the
same discs, without using any Windows software at all, thus
eliminating this one factor completely. Whether you can read the
discs or not, it'll give you a good idea as to whether Windows issues
are involved.
 
You might be running into this problem for any of several reasons:
 
- Dye deterioration on the DVD discs. Some dye types, and some brands
are less stable than others. Storage conditions (temperature,
humidity, and exposure to light) may matter.
 
- Failing laser(s) in the DVD drives.
 
- Dirty (or smoke-coated) lenses in the optical systems. If anyone
smokes tobacco or other herbs around those computers, this could be
a real problem... tobacco "tar" coating the lenses is bad juju for
the system.
 
All of these problems would affect "burned" DVDs more than pressed
ones, as the relative reflectivity differences between "1" and "0"
bits is lower, and the signal "seen" by the laser/photodiode system is
weaker. Back in the Olde Days, many first-generation CD
players/drives had trouble reading CD-R discs, and many couldn't read
CD-RW, for this same reason.
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