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| Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>: Oct 05 12:59AM > would bother more of them. Some are pissed at how many Ring cameras > are in the neighborhood. A black helicopter has them hiding under the > bed. ;-) You must live in my neighborhood! :) You bring up two important issues: a. Power at the remote site 800 feet away, and, b. The Fresnel zone of a pole only six feet tall You can look up the Fresnel zone stuff separately, which, in my experience, is more theoretical than practical since you just shove more directional beam power to overcome the losses due to lack of height. Power is an issue. I'll ping "alt.internet.wireless" & "sci.electronics.repair" with this post, who may be able to assist you more so than I can in how to set up the power (be advised to ignore the three infants on s.e.r if they respond). What we do here in the Santa Cruz mountains, where the zoning is 40 acres per household, is "bucket routers" which are simply routers plugged into anything we can plug them into, between homes when we need to clear obstructions to our Line of Sight (LOS) WiFi transceivers. But your suggestion of solar seems far better than bucket routers. -- A "bucket router" is just a router under a bucket for weather protection. |
| Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Oct 04 08:51PM -0500 On 10/4/20 7:59 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: [ nothing of any importance, as usual ] Piss the fuck off. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
| Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>: Oct 05 01:57AM On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 20:51:21 -0500, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > On 10/4/20 7:59 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: > Piss the fuck off. As always, Fox's Mercantile (aka Snit) proves he's an infant. o Let's see if the other two infants on s.e.r show their colors |
| Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Oct 04 08:59PM -0500 On 10/4/20 8:57 PM, Arlen Holder wrote: >> Piss the fuck off. > As always, Fox's Mercantile (aka Snit) proves he's an infant. > o Let's see if the other two infants on s.e.r show their colors Like I give a fuck what you think. And I ain't Snit. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Oct 05 03:53AM -0700 The cross-posting troll is back! Please do not feed the troll! |
| Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Oct 05 06:06AM -0500 > The cross-posting troll is back! > Please do not feed the troll! But it's so much fun. Because he gets his panties in a really tight wad. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
| Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>: Oct 05 01:33PM On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 06:06:54 -0500, Fox's Mercantile wrote: > But it's so much fun. The second infantile troll on s.e.r, as predicted, proved me right. o pfjw@aol.com (aka Diesel) What I find always enlightening is how worthless these trolls prove to be. o These 3 trolls don't have a purposefully helpful bone in their bodies 1. Snit (aka Fox's Mercantile) 2. pfjw@aol.com (aka Diesel) 3. ... (we're waiting for you)... None have ever posted in their entire lives, anything of any value. o Any thread with them is 99% their trolls, and nothing of value. -- They're basically children who post on s.e.r for their own amusement. |
| jaugustine@verizon.net: Oct 05 07:26AM -0400 > I found light settings where you can turn off Daylight Running Lights, >Wiper (when it rains) Lights, when you lock you vehicle, but there is >NO setting to disable headlights turning on when you open the door. UPDATE: Reply (email) from the Jeep dealer, "there is no way to disable that feature". John |
| Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Oct 04 10:09AM -0700 >pair of yagis on a hilltop for a client who had no reception at >all in his house which was located on the blind side of the hill. >It worked somewhat but was not really satisfactory. Passive repeaters like that don't work. For example, let's take an over simplified situation. This is for a direct path (no repeater) between the TV station and the receiving antenna. UHF 14 channel at 500 MHz. 10 mile path. 12 dBi antenna gain on the receiver end. <https://www.proxim.com/en/products/knowledge-center/calculations/calculations-free-space-loss> The 10 mile path produces a 110.6 dB path loss at 500 MHz. Add the 12 dBi antenna gain and the station to receiver path loss is: 110.6 - 12 = 98.6 dB loss Next is with a passive repeater installed at 9 miles from the TV station and 1 mile to the receive antenna. At the 9 mile point, there are two back to back 12dBi UHF antennas. This splits the calculation into two parts (9 miles and 1 mile). Note that there are three 12dBi antennas involved: The 9 mile path has a loss of 109.7 dB. The first 12dBi antenna reduces the 9 mile loss to: 109.7 - 12 = 97.7 dB loss The 1 mile path has a loss of 90.6 dB. The 2nd and 3rd 12dBi antennas reduce the 1 mile loss to: 90.6 - 12 -12 = 66.6 dB loss The total end to end loss (including the three 12dBi antennas) is: 97.7dB + 66.6dB = 164.3 dB path loss 164dB is a *MUCH* larger path loss than the original direct path of 98.6dB even though it includes the gain from 3 antennas (+36dB). Specifically, the direct path signal through such a passive repeater arrangement would be: 164.3 - 98.6 = 65.7dB or about 4 million times stronger (in terms of power gain) than the passive repeater derangement. This is why you don't see many passive repeaters, passive cell phone boosters, or flat panel reflectors, in service. >house with literally an aluminium coat hanger plugged into the >antenna socket. By contrast, I could watch the 1990 FIFA World >Cup only with an array of four yagis *and* an antenna booster. 1990 was before repacking and DTV (about 2009), so that wouldn't explain the signal loss. What seems odd is your "slowly but steadily degraded". That seems like some kind of TV receiver problem, mechanical problem (squirrel chewing coax, water in the coax, antenna rot), that gets worse over time, rather than a sudden change. Were the neighbors experiencing the same problem with the same station? Are you on a shared community or building distribution system? Were you listening directly to the unspecified TV transmitter, or were you listening to a station owned UHF repeater? -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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