Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 4 topics

Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 09:33AM -0800

> > expert that acts like a "write only memory."
> > --
 
> I think we should start another pool. Since we already had a winner in the over/under (10 days) and since that is long since blasted, we should have another over/under (respond by email) to see how long we can keep him twisting. At least once a week, someone should poke the squirrel with a "boo" and see how long he continues to respond. I think this won't be days but many weeks, so we should decide how many weeks for the new over/under pool. We also need to set a window for response, say 5 days. Once the squirrel stops responding for a window of 5 days, a winner will be declared. Anyone with suggestions for duration of the new over/under pool should not respond here but by email for obvious reasons. BTW, I had "under" for the 10 day challenge and need another shot..
 
Hey pony troll! So I had a blast last night. Our table was out, grill was on and family was relaxing. Then I wipped out the tablet and decided to share my little secret. My family was roaring with laughter. I told them this was my little "old lady trolls" in a jar. You guys provide so much entertainment I had to share. Oh and I hope you win in this little pool of yours. Lol. Keep up the good work!
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 09:35AM -0800

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 9:15:45 AM UTC-6, Peter W. wrote:
> > I think we should start another pool. Since we already had a winner in the over/under (10 days) and since that is long since blasted, we should have another over/under (respond by email) to see how long we can keep him twisting. At least once a week, someone should poke the squirrel with a "boo" and see how long he continues to respond. I think this won't be days but many weeks, so we should decide how many weeks for the new over/under pool. We also need to set a window for response, say 5 days. Once the squirrel stops responding for a window of 5 days, a winner will be declared. Anyone with suggestions for duration of the new over/under pool should not respond here but by email for obvious reasons. BTW, I had "under" for the 10 day challenge and need another shot..
 
> My "Boo" is entirely automated, and weekdays only. With your idea in mind, I have stopped it for now.
 
> My position towards this accretion is that it is much like the individual I knew who could be 'had' for $0.60/hour - or less. It is not bright enough to automate its responses, so I say... November 10.
 
Pony pete! Hope your doing well lil buddy. Ahh your vocabulary is so... lame. No one is more impress then your lady troll fans. Lets keep this up forever! Awww. Your time is ticking though. :(
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 02:05PM -0600

On 11/1/20 11:35 AM, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> Hope your doing well lil buddy.
 
Piss off charger boy.
Nobody gives two shits about what you have to say.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 02:06PM -0800

Good morning! Your finally awake. I heard your enemas take longer than joe consumer.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 04:20PM -0600

On 11/1/20 4:06 PM, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> I heard your enemas take longer than joe consumer.
 
Why am I not surprised you're interested in my asshole.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 02:24PM -0800

It's sad you have to resort to profanity. That's how I knew I won a while back. Even with your teams cute repeat tricks. But remember Jeffy poo, it's your ponies you like to ride. ;)
Grace C. Boyd <GraceCBoyd@jourrapide.com.invalid: Nov 01 10:47PM

> Clever trick.
 
The advice you received here was helpful. Please take it and go away.
Sarah T. Sawyer <SarahTSawyer@teleworm.us.invalid>: Nov 01 11:06PM

> don't need a schematic to fix something Jeffy poo. Jeff and his band
> of witches are just tripping. Oh and thanks for...reading the posts an
> providing nothing useful.
 
If you don't like the advice you get, then go pay someone to give you
the advice you think you are entitled to receive. If you are not paying
for the advice, you should have no expectation of receiving any
particular advice.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 07:16PM -0600

On 11/1/20 4:47 PM, Grace C. Boyd wrote:
> The advice you received here was helpful.
 
To recap: Harbor Freight doesn't support a majority of the
things they sell. Specifically, in this case, a battery
charger.
 
> Please take it and go away.
 
Not likely, he's our new poster child for some one that
feels entitled to get everything they want.
 
Without exception.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 05:21PM -0800

Another fake creation by the pony boy. Hurray!
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 05:23PM -0800

The old one two punch huh lil lady troll? You are so silly! You're better off using profanity. This side of you is weak.
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 05:31PM -0800

To recap: I've been on usenet fer 41 years and when I have nothing good to provide I still give my two oldest cents from my pocket! While I shake my cane at the world!
 
>Jeffy-poo grumbling like an old fool.
 
I'm not going away Jeff. I'm enjoying this too much. The three amigos will be the first to go. time is ticking.
Shawna R. Lewis <ShawnaRLewis@jourrapide.com.invalid>: Nov 02 01:49AM

> trying desperately to holding on to something. I don't know what. Lol.
> Joy! P.S. The more profanity you use the more neanderthal you become.
> Careful *Wink*.
 
Buying from Harbor Freight is a crap-shoot. Sometimes the stuff works,
sometimes it does not. The advice you were given in this thread is
useful when the subject is Harbor Freight electronics.
Gary F. Sanders <GaryFSanders@jourrapide.com.invalid>: Nov 02 02:51AM

> There she is. *wink*
 
Stop acting like a spoiled brat and accept that you got some good advice
at the outset in this thread.
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 09:27AM -0800

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:44:09 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
 
> > Cheers, T i m
 
> I can't tell you how many of those came in over the years with cranky switches, either the rotating or sliding kind. Yes, by all means have him manipulate them or test those first if it shows up. If it responds, clean them accordingly.
 
> The good news is that a stereo amp with one weird channel out of two identical channels is one of the easier things to troubleshoot in the consumer electronics world.
 
Great reply JD. No toxic or smart alec remarks. Keep this up! You just might win.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 02:04PM -0600

On 11/1/20 11:27 AM, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> No toxic or smart alec remarks.
 
Piss off charger boy.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
T i m <news@spaced.me.uk>: Nov 01 11:05PM

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 10:44:05 -0700 (PDT), John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
<snip>
 
>I can't tell you how many of those came in over the years with cranky switches, either the rotating or sliding kind. Yes, by all means have him manipulate them or test those first if it shows up.
 
He was away till just earlier and said he tried using a different
input and it worked, but didn't mention if he'd tried going back to
the original ... (like I would have done).
 
For some people, as long as it's working they don't care about
anything else. ;-(
 
 
>If it responds, clean them accordingly.
 
Yeah, that would have been my next step, get some switch cleaner /
Elecrolube in them. ;-)
 
>The good news is that a stereo amp with one weird channel out of two identical channels is one of the easier things to troubleshoot in the consumer electronics world.
 
Yeah, and this one looked pretty simple. ;-(
 
At least I've now got myself a simple PC scope:
 
https://www.hantek.eu/dso-6022be.html
 
... and have found it's also supported under Linux:
 
https://github.com/OpenHantek/openhantek
 
... and found a mod that upgrades it to be AC coupling:
 
https://github.com/OpenHantek/OpenHantek6022/blob/master/docs/HANTEK6022_AC_Modification.pdf
 
The only thing I haven't worked out is if the default is DC after the
mod is applied as I don't think the factory software had the soft
switch and the Windows version of OpenHantek doesn't work on W10 on
the same PC when running Linux Mint (video errors, can't form the
actual scope screen display).
 
Cheers, T i m
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 05:58PM -0800

Where is Pony pete? He is better at this than you. You're like a caveman who knows a little about electronics. "41 Years! I fix chargers!" lol.
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 09:29AM -0800

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:48:46 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
 
> Yeah, but the average buyer these days demands low prices. Price is probably the defining feature when the Joe Consumer goes shopping.
 
> In defense of smd fuses, they don't fail for no reason (except those stupid ceramic ones with the bonded metal caps), so if Joe Consumer doesn't recognize it as a fuse, he can't put a foil gum wrapper around it.
 
> Other than a socketed fuse, they are easier to change than any other type of through the hole mounted fuse.
 
You could do better by not using silly names like, "Joe consumer". Use "average consumer" instead. Good work though.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 02:06PM -0600

On 11/1/20 11:29 AM, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> You could do better by not using silly names like, "Joe consumer".
 
Piss off charger boy.
Nobody gives two shits about your opinions.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Nov 01 02:38PM -0800

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 12:26:25 -0400, ABLE1 <somewhere@nowhere.net>
wrote:
 
>Is there some chart that would be available to give the ability
>to ID the value of this fuse and its parameters??
 
<https://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/fuses/littelfuse_fuse_466_datasheet.pdf.pdf>
The B is 0.125A. See the "Part Marking System" section on the last
page.
 
>I just don't understand the designing of this technology type
>especially at a input voltage of 120VAC.
 
Regulatory compliance for adequate fire and safety protection requires
a fuse. UL doesn't care if it is user accessible or buried under a
pile of wires. If you want the UL sticker, it must have a fuse of
some sorts.
 
>I am sure I will be enlightened to the whys and wherefores.
 
One must suffer before enlightenment. At least that how all the
fables, parables, anecdotes, and internet explanations are commonly
inscribed.
 
>I am prepared for the best and worst.
 
Are you prepared to pay for the best? (The worst you already have in
the form of an SMT fuse). For a little more $$$, the manufacturer
might supply a PPTC resettable fuse:
<https://www.littelfuse.com/products/polyswitch-resettable-ptcs.aspx>
Nothing to replace when it blows. Just give it time to cool down.
 
Or, the manufacturer could add an SMD size fuse holder:
<https://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/fuses/littelfuse_fuse_154_154t_154l_154tl_datasheet.pdf.pdf>
<https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/fuses/139?s=N4IgjCBcoLQCxVAYygMwIYBsDOBTANCAPZQDa4ArAEwDMAHCALqEAOALlCCAL69A>
However, these are NOT cheap and will not work with a 1206 size fuse.
 
Or, the manufacturer could switch to a much larger cartridge fuse,
which offer a PCB mount fuse holder.
 
>Thank you very much in advance.
 
Y'er welcome.
 
Incidentally, I'm more irritated with non-resettable thermal fuses
used on tranformers and kitchen appliances. These fuses are usually
buried under a layer of difficult to remove Kapton tape.
 
 
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Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 02:09PM -0800

I think you do. Are you able to chase me? Don't get out of breath.
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 09:25AM -0800

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 1:06:44 PM UTC-5, Peter W. wrote:
 
> Alternately, you could shotgun all the electrolytics around the display board and hope to get lucky. HiFi Engine (free) should have the manual, so I would suggest the first expedient rather than the second.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Hey! Look at the pony boy being helpful! You are doing a great job. Don't deviate into trolling. K? ;)
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 01 02:03PM -0600

On 11/1/20 11:25 AM, Edward Hernandez wrote:
> Hey! Look at the pony boy being helpful!
 
Piss off charger boy.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>: Nov 01 02:08PM -0800

you're off to a bad start One-Foot.
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