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| Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>: Jan 10 01:17PM On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 10:53:35 +0000, Adrian Caspersz >> quarters you have not yet disassembled? >I'd just snip a few wires, dump the guts in the nearest trashcan. >A single board linux computer and an audio amp don't cost much. That is a very fair point! However, I'll properly investigate first (which I'll be doing shortly) and fix the damn thing if I can. |
| Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Jan 10 01:45PM On 10/01/2021 13:17, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> A single board linux computer and an audio amp don't cost much. > That is a very fair point! However, I'll properly investigate first > (which I'll be doing shortly) and fix the damn thing if I can. If you don't, consider eBay'ing as it is, you might get some interest. I've got a Roberts Stream 83i. Great sound quality (the cabinet is a lump of MDF!), and a very sensitive DAB receiver, but the user interface is very poor and Wifi stability hopeless. And then there is this vtuner mess ... https://swling.com/blog/2019/05/frontier-silicon-and-vtuner-aggregation-aggravation-continues/ https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2282513/frontier-silicon-portal-not-working I've given up using Internet Radio on it. -- Adrian C |
| Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Jan 10 01:51PM On 10/01/2021 13:33, KenW wrote: >> Maybe it doesn't have internal power !!?? >> KenW > And preprogrammed freqs. are in a rom. There are no "freqs" on the 105. There is no traditional AM/FM/digital radio tuner in the thing. Internet only. Settings beyond WiFi could well be in the cloud. -- Adrian C |
| Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>: Jan 10 01:54PM On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:51:00 +0000, Adrian Caspersz >There is no traditional AM/FM/digital radio tuner in the thing. >Internet only. >Settings beyond WiFi could well be in the cloud. Yes, and it remembered my choices perfectly well for many years before developing dementia, so I think it's fair to assume there's an internal power supply of some sort. |
| Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Jan 10 02:31PM Cursitor Doom wrote: > Yes, and it remembered my choices perfectly well for many years before > developing dementia, so I think it's fair to assume there's an > internal power supply of some sort. It might send its unique ID to the cloud, which remembers your favourites and tells the "radio" every time it boots? Does it manage to remember your WiFi credentials every time you turn it on? Try a factory reset if it has one buried in the menus. Maybe the "favourites" part of the cloud has gone away? Or is geo-restricted? |
| Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>: Jan 10 03:34PM On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:31:52 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: >on? Try a factory reset if it has one buried in the menus. >Maybe the "favourites" part of the cloud has gone away? Or is >geo-restricted? Well, if they've pulled some sort of stunt like that then it's the last time I'll ever buy a Roberts radio. It's funny they seemed to know already what the problem was since they quoted me 40 quid to fix it I'm just wondering if they don't do anything to the radio but just renew my subscription or something like that. I've got the thing apart now and there's nothing amiss visually. There's no supercaps and no button cells or anything else of that nature. In fact the only odd thing is that there are several 220uF caps which are showing as anything between 1000uF and 1200uF on my Peak ESR70 meter. I've never known caps so far out of tolerance before. However, I don't think that could explain the issue here anyway. Sigh... |
| Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>: Jan 10 03:40PM On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:31:52 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: Sorry I forgot to answer your point here: >Does it manage to remember your WiFi credentials every time you turn it >on? Try a factory reset if it has one buried in the menus. Yes, it remembers the password and accesses the router no problem. |
| Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Jan 10 03:43PM Cursitor Doom wrote: >> Does it manage to remember your WiFi credentials every time you turn it >> on? Try a factory reset if it has one buried in the menus. > Yes, it remembers the password and accesses the router no problem. So it has *some* functioning non-volatile storage then, wonder if it constantly writes your favourites to flash and has worn it out? |
| Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com>: Jan 10 04:34PM >>> Yes, and it remembered my choices perfectly well for many years >>> before developing dementia, so I think it's fair to assume there's >>> an internal power supply of some sort. Why is this "safe to assume"? If it has access to the internet, then it is *not safe to assume* that there is an internal power supply of some sort. It is possible that *every* setting beyond the local WiFi AP credentials is stored on a server somewhere in the cloud. And the WiFi AP credentials could be stored in a tiny amount of flash on the main chipset to provide the bootstrap necessary to find the rest of the settings on some cloud server. > they quoted me 40 quid to fix it I'm just wondering if they don't do > anything to the radio but just renew my subscription or something > like that. Why would you think this vs. the more typical option of the minimum wage phone worker having a table of "customer quoted symptoms" vs. "quoted repair cost" and the minimum wage worker just reading you off the quote for the item that sounded most close to your description? > In fact the only odd thing is that there are several 220uF caps which > are showing as anything between 1000uF and 1200uF on my Peak ESR70 > meter. I've never known caps so far out of tolerance before. In circuit or out of circuit measurement? If they are in circult, and they are in parallel with each other in the circuit, then the measured capacitance will be the sum of the individual caps. You'd only need five parallel in-spec 220 uF caps. to show an approx. 1100 uF net value (and 1000-1200uF is "approx. 1100 uF). |
| Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com>: Jan 10 04:39PM >>Does it manage to remember your WiFi credentials every time you turn >>it on? Try a factory reset if it has one buried in the menus. > Yes, it remembers the password and accesses the router no problem. The chipset /could/ contain just enough flash to store the WiFi credentials, with every other 'setting' stored in the cloud. The bootup sequence would then be: Boot chipset Connect to WiFi Download remaining cloud stored user configuration settings |
| "Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Jan 10 08:20AM -0800 Rate: noun 1. a measure, quantity, or frequency, typically one measured against some other quantity or measure. "the crime rate rose by 26 percent" So: The Literacy *Rate* would be a level of literacy against the total. So, if, of 100 individuals 12 are able to read and write at a college level, that Literacy Rate would be 12%. If that Rate changes year-on-year, the Rate would change by some percentage measured against the former year, and against whatever baseline is used - year 1, if you will. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| KenW <ken1943@invalid.net>: Jan 10 06:30AM -0700 > SNIP I found a manual for a 94i. It said to leave the wall wart plugged in. Maybe it doesn't have internal power !!?? KenW |
| KenW <ken1943@invalid.net>: Jan 10 06:33AM -0700 >I found a manual for a 94i. It said to leave the wall wart plugged in. >Maybe it doesn't have internal power !!?? >KenW And preprogrammed freqs. are in a rom. KenW |
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