Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 15 updates in 3 topics

T i m <news@spaced.me.uk>: May 21 10:48AM +0100

>>hope it's good under load as they don't look as easy to find as the
>>switcher, a KA1M0800?
 
>Any change in performance with ANY of these part subs?
 
I'm still waiting for the small caps (might be here today, whilst I
have some stock of caps, I never seem to have the spec I want), and I
intend, assuming this wouldn't risk any other stuff, to replace the
two caps, then opto, voltage reg then switcher in that order (as I
believe that was the order you mentioned the likely cause)?
 
The idea being that it might be interesting to see what it actually
was?
 
As an aside, I replaced the 4 x 1000uF, 105, LESR output smoothing
caps with new caps but with the wrong wire spacing (I was jumping
about on eBay and clicked the wrong one) but have some good s/h 1500uF
(16V 105, LESR) caps with the right pin spacing that would fit better.
Would using higher capacity be 'better', given it's soft start etc or
would it negatively influence the L-C of the output and so end up
being 'worse'?
 
Cheers, T i m
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: May 21 11:06AM -0400

>would it negatively influence the L-C of the output and so end up
>being 'worse'?
 
>Cheers, T i m
 
You are, occasionally, reapplying power to check function?
 
RL
T i m <news@spaced.me.uk>: May 21 04:08PM +0100

On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:48:32 +0100, T i m <news@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
 
<snip>
 
>intend, assuming this wouldn't risk any other stuff, to replace the
>two caps, then opto, voltage reg then switcher in that order (as I
>believe that was the order you mentioned the likely cause)?
 
Update: The caps arrived this morning so I re-fitted the txfmr, the
switcher and rectifier, then fitted the new caps and tested it. DMM
shows around 10V on the DC range (as before off load) but it's jumping
about a lot and about .5V on AC.
 
I then replaced the opto and then the voltage reg with the output
looking the same each time (allowing for the voltage on the main caps
to bleed down each time etc).
 
So are we now looking at the switcher itself and / or is there
anything else I can check in the meantime please?
 
Cheers, T i m
T i m <news@spaced.me.uk>: May 21 04:13PM +0100

On Fri, 21 May 2021 11:06:41 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
 
<snip>
 
 
>You are, occasionally, reapplying power to check function?
 
I think we just keyed up at the same time? ;-)
 
After re-assembling and between replacing the components, yes.
 
Cheers, T i m
Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: May 20 04:19PM -0400

In article <1680d0d3cd96d6c4$1$1693209$e8dda262@news.thundernews.com>,
john_crane_59@yahoo.com says...
> cannibalize it. I'm sure there has to be some company that can custom
> manufacture crystals to specs. I did try Bomar, but have not received a
> reply.
 
Many crystal companies that make them for indivuduals have gone out of
business. For the ones that are still in business you can expect to pay
from $ 50 to $ 100 for a one of a kind. Thre is a company in England
that makes crystals to order, but you are still looking at over $ 50
each.
 
Years ago there were several companies in the US that would make about
any crystal you wanted. Now most radios use one master crystal and from
there use electronics to cover all the frequencies, there is not much
demad for the crystals. Unlike years ago where each radio frequency
required a seperate crystal.
Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kendrick@nospam.io-nyc>: May 20 04:59PM -0500

In article <1680d0b7e9b61e85$2$1693209$e8dda262@news.thundernews.com>,
>> Does anyone know of a source for 784 MHz crystals?
>> I'd like to try to 'accurize' the timer in the HP-45 calculator.
 
>Make that kHz.
 
You probably found this link already:
 
https://davidreaton.com/hp-calculators/hp-45/
 
I got to that link from the opposite direction, in that I used to modify
video game systems and we'd use custom oscillators in place of crystals in
order to mess with the region or the video output timing. So the timing
circuit that Mr. Reaton uses in place of a 784 kHz crystal works on the
same valid principle.
 
-KKC, wandering around the abandoned world of Usenet like the Omega Man.
--
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childhood is the perfect background for covert ops. You | @
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Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: May 20 06:19PM -0700

John Crane wrote:
==================
Phil Allison wrote:
> cannibalize it. I'm sure there has to be some company that can custom
> manufacture crystals to specs. I did try Bomar, but have not received a
> reply.
 
** If you have done any Googling on this at all, you know that there is no such company.
 
Stop being such a naive PITA.
 
 
..... Phil
Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: May 20 11:19PM -0400

In article <eb421fd2-8038-49b0-8f5e-96120f8e690dn@googlegroups.com>,
pallison49@gmail.com says...
> > reply.
 
> ** If you have done any Googling on this at all, you know that there is no such company.
 
> Stop being such a naive PITA.
 
Do you mean this company :
 
http://bomarcrystal.com/
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: May 20 08:26PM -0700

Ralph Mowery wrote:
 
 
> > Stop being such a naive PITA.
 
> Do you mean this company :
 
> http://bomarcrystal.com/
 
 
** FFS they don't make one off specials for hobbiest wankers like the OP.
 
 
 
..... Phil
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: May 21 03:45AM -0700

> ** FFS they don't make one off specials for hobbiest wankers like the OP.
 
They are just across the river from me, and, in point-of-fact, they do make one-offs for amateurs and hobbyists, albeit at a price.
 
You spend far too much time under your rock to have any understanding at all of how big and wide the world is, and how many unusual things it contains.... Including brand new multi-section twist-lock capacitors....
 
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: May 21 04:15AM -0700

Peter Wanker Fucking Asshole wrote:
-----------------------------------------------
> > ** FFS they don't make one off specials for hobbiest wankers like the OP.
 
> They are just across the river from me, and, in point-of-fact, they do make one-offs for amateurs and hobbyists,
> albeit at a price.
 
** A price no amateur nor hobbyist would ever pay.
 
Go on - prove otherwise.
 
> You spend far too much time under your rock
 
** LOL !!!!
 
> to have any understanding at all of how big and wide the world is,
 
** FFS fuckwits like YOU you cannot even read.
 
> and how many unusual things it contains....
> Including brand new multi-section twist-lock capacitors....
 
** How fucking retarded.

Wot a vile Septic puke you are.
 
 
...... Phil
Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: May 21 09:34AM -0400

In article <cf646288-a30b-4169-a89f-430ae343cccan@googlegroups.com>,
peterwieck33@gmail.com says...
 
> You spend far too much time under your rock to have any understanding at all of how big and wide the world is, and how many unusual things it contains.... Including brand new multi-section twist-lock capacitors....
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
No use arguing with that fool. I think he just likes to spread his crap
over the group. I try not to go back to him .
 
I do know that they will make crystals as a one of a kind for people.
There are many on a ham radio group that have ordered from them. The
price is high , starting about $ 50 each . I never did like the Bomar
brand but have bought some from them about 40 years ago when several
companies would make almost anything you wanted. Most are out of
business now. There is a place in England that is reported to be a good
company by other hams, but their prices are still around the $ 50 mark
per crystal. I did special order a few crystals from International
Crystal just before they went out of business.
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: May 21 07:13AM -0700

> No use arguing with that fool. I think he just likes to spread his crap
> over the group. I try not to go back to him .
 
The drongo from Down Under is much like a hognose snake, but without the utility. All pretense and threat, no actual substance. At least the snakes eat vermin.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Rob <nomail@example.com>: May 21 02:47PM


>> They are just across the river from me, and, in point-of-fact, they do make one-offs for amateurs and hobbyists,
>> albeit at a price.
 
> ** A price no amateur nor hobbyist would ever pay.
 
There still are companies that make crystals for a specified frequency
and although it has become much more expensive (probably because of
reduced demand) it still can be done.
 
However, I looked up a company where I have ordered before and it seems
that this particular frequency is a problem. They provide two ranges,
30-100 kHz and another starting at 800 kHz.
 
(these companies work with stock crystals that they etch towards the
requested frequency so you can only order frequencies for which they
have the suitable starting point)
Ralph Phillips <ralphp@philent.biz>: May 20 05:41PM -0500

On 5/19/2021 3:24 PM, T i m wrote:
> wrote:
> (I
> used it to run the Co BBS (TBBS) and it was typically on 27/7).
 
Another TBBS alumni!
 
I ran The Golddust Plantation back when.
 
RwP
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