Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 3 topics

John Crane <john_crane_59@yahoo.com>: Jul 07 11:50PM -0500

On 7/6/21 1:36 AM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
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Yes it is running code in the PROM. That's the Monitor program for the
computer.
 
-J
bitrex <user@example.net>: Jul 07 03:13PM -0400

Bought a black 901 cartridge for the above printer as usual, on install
immediately got the message:
 
"Print cartridge problem: (black) Refer to device documentation to
troubleshoot."
 
Strangely it now throws the message if I try to re-install the previous
cartridge that was running low, too, it was working fine minutes before
other than the usual symptoms of spotty printing due to low ink...
 
Tried re-seating both cartridges a number of times, pulling the power
and resetting, cleaning the contacts on both cartridge and cartridge
slot with isopropyl, no effect. With no color cartridge installed it
seems impossible to access anything in the menu, too.
 
Anything else to try before I bin it? Thanks
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jul 07 09:17PM -0700

>slot with isopropyl, no effect. With no color cartridge installed it
>seems impossible to access anything in the menu, too.
 
>Anything else to try before I bin it? Thanks
 
The office next door to my former office went through 3 or 4 of those
printers. They all died with a similar problem that was probably
caused by replacing the print cartridge while the printer power was
turned on. Notice how close the contact pads are on the cartridge:
<https://inkdaddy.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/review-inside-cracked-open-the-hp-901-httph10060-www1-hp-compageyielden-019searchresults-htmlccodeusstcartridgesscc653a-black-inkjet-print-cartridge/>
<https://inkdaddy.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/hp-901-contacts.jpg>
It doesn't take much to short the contacts. I couldn't determine if
it was the printer, the cartridge, or both that died. Anyway, wipe
the cartridge and the matching contacts on the carriage with a wet
cloth until all the ink splotches have been cleaned and try again. If
that doesn't work, give up. If that fixes it, read the entire article
and then decide if you want to continue dealing with this abomination.
 
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jul 07 10:05AM -0700


>In other words, I don't have the nut, lock washer or solder lug. Is it
>possible for solder to stick to the outside of the BNC, like the
>threads, etc?
 
I suspect your connector looks more like this:
<https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-rf-division/31-221-RFX/100648>
 
Yes, you can solder to the threads in order to get a ground
connection. Most are silve or nickel plated. However, you might run
into a bright chrome plated abomination that can't be soldered.
Scraping it off won't work because the underlying metal is probably
zinc instead of the more common brass. You mentioned that the
insulator is Teflon, which is the mark of a quality connector, so I
don't think you'll have the bright chome plating problem.
 
It will take a large chisel tip and preferably a temperature
controlled iron to do a decent job of soldering. Try cleaning the
threads with a brass wire brush and using some activated flux. I'm
partial to 63/37 lead/tin, but the Rohs stuff will work at a slightly
higher temperature.
 
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/224041048219?epid=10046829860>
Seems a bit expensive. If you need a few nuts, I have a fairly large
collection. Sorry, no lock washers or lugs. I just hate thinking
about you ruining a perfectly good BNC panel jack. Email to address
below.
 
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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jul 07 10:12AM -0700

On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 10:05:05 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
 
><https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/amphenol-rf-division/31-221-RFX/100648>
 
>Yes, you can solder to the threads in order to get a ground
>connection. Most are silver or nickel plated.
 
Correction. You can solder to nickel plating but only if you first
remove the oxide layer with some acid flux and apply more heat:
<https://forum.caswellplating.com/forum/other-metal-finishing-questions/10134-soldering-to-nickel-plated-connectors>
Be sure to clean/wash off the acid flux from the connector and wire
when done.
 
 
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
bilou <bilou@sfr.fr>: Jul 07 07:13PM +0200

On 06/07/2021 23:06, Ruk wrote:
> possible for solder to stick to the outside of the BNC, like the
> threads, etc?
 
> Thank you.
It seems to me that the connector of your link is the insulated ground
kind.Those were mainly used for coaxial Ethernet.
On a normal one with PTFE insulation it is possible to solder.
In a cheap Chinese TAP and DIE set I found one that was perfect.
Very handy to replace F type connectors on SAT devices.
HW <none@no.no>: Jul 07 07:20PM +0200


>Teflon so no melting.
 
Be careful with PTFE and heat. It will start degrading at around 235
C, and will give off some nasty gases while doing so.
Ruk <rthekeeper@zed.net>: Jul 07 01:43PM -0400

On 7/7/21 1:20 PM, HW wrote:
 
>> Teflon so no melting.
 
> Be careful with PTFE and heat. It will start degrading at around 235
> C, and will give off some nasty gases while doing so.
 
No problem. It was all done outdoors with the wind blowing everything
away from me.
Ruk <rthekeeper@zed.net>: Jul 07 01:48PM -0400

On 7/7/21 1:05 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> collection. Sorry, no lock washers or lugs. I just hate thinking
> about you ruining a perfectly good BNC panel jack. Email to address
> below.
 
All four were soldered yesterday. Outdoors. I used a 60 watt iron. I
initially tried a 230 watt gun, but I can never seem to get those to
apply heat where it should be. I didn't solder the entire connector,
just a couple of spots, more like a "spot solder".
 
In retrospect, I probably should have used some steel wool around the
threads first and some flux. However, although it took quite a while to
get the solder to stick, the job was done. If the chassis had been
something other than tin and much thicker, I'd have simply drilled and
tapped holes.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jul 07 11:35AM -0700

>initially tried a 230 watt gun, but I can never seem to get those to
>apply heat where it should be. I didn't solder the entire connector,
>just a couple of spots, more like a "spot solder".
 
The problem with a soldering gun is that while it burns many more
watts than a pencil style iron, the tip is rather small or rather less
massive. What happens is the small gun tip will get hot enough to
melt solder, but as soon as it touches something big, the BNC
connector sucks away all the heat and the tip temperature soon drops
below the point where it will melt solder. That's why I suggested a
more massive tip and a temperature controlled iron. I'm really
surprised that you were able to solder anything outdoors with the wind
blowing. I used to do radio tower climbing and ocassionally had to do
soldering. My iron of choice was a big heavy copper tip heated by a
plumbers propane torch.
 
>In retrospect, I probably should have used some steel wool around the
>threads first and some flux.
 
Nope. Notice that I suggested using a brass wire brush. Steel wool
likes to leave tiny piece of steel imbedded in the metal. They're
almost invisible but will make their presence known after they begin
to rust.
 
>get the solder to stick, the job was done. If the chassis had been
>something other than tin and much thicker, I'd have simply drilled and
>tapped holes.
 
You'll need a 3/8-32 tap wrench.
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=3%2F8-32+tap>
 
 
 
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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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