Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 2 topics

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Jan 16 05:45AM +1100

On 15/01/2022 9:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> horrible LCDs. Proper LED display.
 
> ** You on drugs ?
 
> the display is very clearly LCD - with an orange backlight.
 
**Oops. [Smacks head]. Must be the drugs.
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>: Jan 16 05:50AM +1100

On 15/01/2022 9:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> horrible LCDs. Proper LED display.
 
> ** You on drugs ?
 
> the display is very clearly LCD - with an orange backlight.
 
**Seriously, I kinda mixed them up with this one. I bought one of these
initially:
 
https://www.banggood.com/Geekcreit-3-in-1-AC-60-500V-100A-Voltmeter-Ammeter-HZ-Hertz-Frequency-Meter-22mm-Digital-Current-Voltage-Amp-Signal-Light-LED-Lamp-Indicator-with-CT-p-1548114.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN&ID=229
 
But I preferred the LCD ones.
 
Thanks for the correction.
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net>: Jan 15 09:39PM -0500

On 1/15/2022 0:50, danny burstein wrote:
 
>> Thanks. I wanted confirmation that one of the inexpensive ones has been
>> tested and approved. The $17 models might still be crap but if this is
>> above that price point then that's what I needed to know.
 
You're welcome. I'm happy with the $25 or so Kill-A-Watt for my
purposes, testing appliances.
 
> "lock" those readings and hold them if you
> moved it off the outlet and then plugged it
> in elsewhere.
 
Mine, in the $25 ball-park range, immediately resets when unplugged.
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Jan 15 04:00PM -0500


>https://imgur.com/jIXc5Be
 
None of the imgur links will display on my browsers, but
surplus epoxy glue dots shouldn't be an issue, unless they
are obviously flattened/distorted from actual use.
Depopulated board positions likely still use full population
adhesive dot location programming.
 
The hiss might be self-oscillation - possibly visible on a
scope. Check input / output signal filters, zobel network
components on the output. Possibly sensitive to temperature.
 
Could be problems with simple frequency comp components -
intermittent cap or rc network component, or bad switch
contents in the equalisation bypass (if present).
 
Mechanical grounding connections for good components also
suspect.
 
RL
Three Jeeps <jjhudak4@gmail.com>: Jan 15 05:16PM -0800

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 11:41:59 PM UTC-5, Mike S wrote:
> board.
> https://imgur.com/zBnbbjR
 
> Do those red globs mean anything?
I suggest that you carefully inspect solder joints and traces looking for crystalline (cold) joints or micro-cracks in the ckt board. Touch up any suspected joint with soldering iron, and fluxed solder. Also check wired connections in/out of the board.
Random/variable hissing on the audio output can often be attributed to 'noisy' semiconductors, e.g. transistors, diodes. Output transistors are a likely suspect as they experience a fair amount of heat that can cause degradation.
If you know how to use a scope you could inject and trace a signal and see where it acquires a lot of noise. Another approach is to change any transistor in the audio signal path (s).
 
Good luck
J
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jan 15 05:28PM -0800

Three Jeeps wrote:
==============
 
> Random/variable hissing on the audio output can often be attributed to 'noisy' semiconductors, e.g. transistors, diodes.
 
** Not diodes.
 
> Output transistors are a likely suspect as they experience a fair amount of heat that can cause degradation.
 
** ROTFL - you are just making shit up !!
 
> If you know how to use a scope you could inject and trace a signal and see where it acquires a lot of noise.
 
** Or just turn the vol pot down and see if that changes things.
 
> Another approach is to change any transistor in the audio signal path (s).
 
Piss off fool.
 
..... Phil
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