- Toyota map DVD can't be read. - 9 Updates
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 14 02:30PM -0400 DVD can't be read, what to do? Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago, occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.) Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3 times. Didn't help. Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help. Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that have been wiped away. In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the 2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work right at all. I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***. A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10 seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob (although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio was on a station, the radio worked fine.) 2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun was very bright. How do I fix this? Is there a better way to clean the head? A more expensive DVD head cleaning CD? Maybe the one I bought didn't know how to work because it was not a general purpose DVD or CD slot, but a dedicated map DVD??? So the radio software was incompatible with, or didn't try to execute, the cleaning DVD software. Maybe NO cleaning CD knows how to work with a Map DVD slot? Or should I disassemble the radio and clean the head directly? (Previous car had a 5-CD changer that broke. Major effort just to get the CDs out, had to destroy the changer mechanism. Never did see the head.) Should I try cleaning the head again, even if it didn't seem to help the first few times, because clearly now it's worse, so maybe even a partial cleaning will be enough? Should I use a liquid or solvent on the brush. I think it didn't say to and I didn't last time. There are junkyard radios, but would they be fully tested? How can they fully test a map that is meant to move when the junkyard car has no engine or tires? And no GPS antennna. I presume the radio is tested, but seriously, do they, can they test the map? ***I've only used navigation twice in 5 years, once in the dark in Charlston, S. Carolina, but I use location all the time. **Convertible, top down, lots of sun, so hard to see the screen, but I could see between attempts, in the center of the screen was a little clock symbol, and the time on the clock was different each time!!! Curious if there's a pattern, but had to pay attention to the road. BTW, I just bought two new used tires today, so that I could go on a 4-day car trip tomorrow, and as I was leaving the tire place, or maybe first thing this morning, that's when the map broke! I love my map, especially when wandering around places I've never been before, which was the exact plan for the next 4 days. What irony! (I've liked maps since I was a little boy, loved them for the last 50 years) |
| Ed P <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 14 02:38PM -0400 On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote: > blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun > was very bright. > How do I fix this? If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for repairing the DVD unit. |
| Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net>: Jul 14 03:23PM -0400 On 7/14/23 2:38 PM, Ed P wrote: >> How do I fix this? > If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for > repairing the DVD unit. Yeah, I've got one that I bought many years ago for $89 at Sam's Club. It has lifetime free quarterly downloadable updates from Garmin for maps, points of interest and operating software. OTOH, the Nav in my Toyota Avalon Limited runs off a mini SD card and there hasn't had been an update available for years. The dealer wanted $170 to install the one released about two years after I bought the car. But slick talker that I am, I convinced them that the sales deal included one free update. In-car Nav, like SiriusXM satellite radio, is on the down-slope because so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio system. -- Beware the man with a well-worn weapon. He probably knows how to use it. |
| Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Jul 14 12:34PM -0700 On 7/14/2023 12:23 PM, Wade Garrett wrote: > so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream > directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio > system. Google maps and others can download the latest "offline" maps so you don't need to use any data on the road, and still have functionality when no signal is available. |
| Ed P <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 14 04:08PM -0400 On 7/14/2023 3:23 PM, Wade Garrett wrote: > so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream > directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio > system. I get free updates twice a year from Genesis and Hyundai. They were on and SD card but new model load from a USB and now OTA. I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call. Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and paid the Sirius bill. |
| Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid>: Jul 14 04:22PM -0500 >FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then >turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and >paid the Sirius bill. I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year. |
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 14 05:31PM -0400 In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:30:28 -0400, micky >DVD can't be read, what to do? Toyota car radio/map. I appreciate all the suggestions to my open-ended question. Buying a new GPS unit is a last resort**. Mostly I'm trying to fix the one I have in the dashboard. One poster on the web thinks that having a map DVD in one's car for years damages the DVD. Do you think that's true? I park outside and it goes from 10F in the winter to 97 in the summer, but usually under 90. The car is white and the top is tan, but it does get several degrees hotter in the car than outside. I think I bougbt the DVD new 4 yars ago, even though it was made in 2008. Maybe I could have made a copy when I got it but it's too late for that now. :-( **For one thing, all the Amazon pictures either show the right half of the screen devoted to text etc, and only the left half devoted to map, OR they don't show as much detail as google maps or my current toyota map does. |
| "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Jul 15 02:33PM +0200 On 2023-07-14 23:31, micky wrote: > have in the dashboard. > One poster on the web thinks that having a map DVD in one's car for > years damages the DVD. Do you think that's true? A mechanical system in a car for reading data (or music) in the XXI century is an amazing idea. It is bound to fail sooner or later. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
| Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net>: Jul 15 09:11AM -0400 On 7/14/23 5:22 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: >> paid the Sirius bill. > I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm > hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year. One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes and fees additional." My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the advertised "price." A little Truth in Advertising please guys! -- I know things and I fix stuff |
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