Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 8 updates in 2 topics

three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Jul 17 12:12PM -0700

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:59:06 PM UTC-4, Nick Agostini wrote:
> Just on my own network.
 
> I have a normal Wi-Fi router.
 
> Any suggestions?
You don't mention power, distance, desired resolution, or monitoring requirements. Here are some cameras that work for me:
$36 - https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam?related_selling_plan=41618559008930
$52 - https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-cam-outdoor-v1?related_selling_plan=41618559008930
 
Smart camera offerings
https://www.wyze.com/collections/smart-cameras
Oscar Mayer <nobody@oscarmayer.com>: Jul 18 05:54PM +0200

On Sun, 16 Jul 2023 21:59:42 -0400, Nick Agostini wrote:
 
> Is it possible to set up a security camera outdoors over wifi for around
> fifty to a hundred bucks?
 
I use these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B75T6CTH
They're indoor and outdoor. I only use them outdoors.
 
They're WIFI and I would never use a wireless camera indoors.
It records audio as well. 
 
Amazon.com : WYZE Cam OG 1080p HD Wi-Fi Security Camera - Indoor/Outdoor,
Color Night Vision, Spotlight, 2-Way Audio, Cloud & Local storage- Ideal
for Home Security, Baby, Pet Monitoring - Alexa & Google Assistant :
Electronics
 
However, the only way you can get "events" (audio and/or video) is with
their online service. But it doesn't cost anything and the videos are
stored in the camera with an SD card. Not online. You can configure it to
record continuously or only record events. You get the events regardless.
 
You can access the video on the SD card online. I was able to watch what
was going on around the house while we were on vacation. What I like the
most is being able to specify a detection zone and its sensitivity for
events. It notifies you online in real time with the Android app when there
are events. 
 
You can have a conversation as well. I've never used that.
 
You can't use ethernet for the video. You would have to have WIFI. Maybe a
show stopper. You have to get a third party POE adapter. Wyze doesn't have
one.
 
I've had them since 2018. They work OK. They're not the high end but
they're pretty stable. Day and night.
Falafel Balls <YoussefGamalNOSPAM@etisalat.eg>: Jul 18 06:58PM +0300

On 18/7/2023, Oscar Mayer wrote:
 
>> Is it possible to set up a security camera outdoors over wifi for around
>> fifty to a hundred bucks?
 
> I use these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B75T6CTH
 
I think the op wanted something that didn't send the video to a 3rd party.
 
I think a simple USB webcam (4MP video (2560x1440) at 30 frames/sec for
$36) under a small aquarium for rainproofing would work fine.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804074161389.html
 
To get the USB delivered as far as 150 feet, use one of these for $16.
https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Extender-CAT5E-Connection-150ft/dp/B003L14ZTC/
 
That's $52 -- very close to the original lower price limit.
And it has a nice 5 to 50 mm lens.
 
Because it is USB, all of the free motion-detector software can use it,
and store the videos on his computer.
Jack <invalid@invalid.net>: Jul 19 01:10AM +0900

On 7/17/2023 10:59 AM, Nick Agostini wrote:
 
> Is it possible to set up a security camera outdoors over wifi for around
> fifty to a hundred bucks?
 
If you want a super cheap camera an ESP32 cam may be the way to go.
It needs wifi but the ESP32 cam is prolly the cheapest setup possible.
 
Here's a video of a guy walking through the ESP32 cam setup.
https://youtu.be/RCtVxZnjPmY
(715) How to setup and use ESP32 Cam with Micro USB WiFi Camera - YouTube
 
However they're crap. They're like buying a dancing bear on the cheap
(it's not how well the bear dances, but that it can dance at all).
 
An advantage of a real camera is to catch license plate numbers.
 
Those services that save in the cloud (such as Wyze, Nest, and Ring) tend
to blur out the license plate numbers for a reason unknown to me, but as a
result, they're often not useful for security cams that face the road.
 
However, that little ESP32 camera does not have the resolution or speed to
capture the plate number anyways.
 
A 4k video camera would be nicer, or a still camera with even better
resolution in motion-detector mode. But they're prolly more than $100.
Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid>: Jul 17 12:30PM -0500

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:15:05 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Both win10, fully updated.
 
>Is there any point to looking for different software, that maybe can
>copy what imgburn won't copy? Or I just can't copy it?
 
To me, that doesn't say 'bad disc', but rather 'incompatible disc', but
of course I could be wrong. Imgburn is about as good as it gets, so if
that's choking, it could be a non-standard (proprietary) disc format.
 
It'd be nice if you had a way of troubleshooting by substitution, but
where are you going to find another nav unit or another disc?
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 17 02:19PM -0400

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:30:35 -0500, Jim Joyce
>that's choking, it could be a non-standard (proprietary) disc format.
 
>It'd be nice if you had a way of troubleshooting by substitution, but
>where are you going to find another nav unit or another disc?
 
It's easy to get another disc. The car is a 2005 and when I bought it
in 2017 it had the original disc. I don't really care about recently
built roads and streets -- there aren't that many of them -- but I also
realized the excess supply of discs would run out, so I bought a 2008
version about 3 years ago. (2008 is the latest year Solaras were made.
Although a 2009 disc for other Toyotas might work fine, I didn't want
the risk. By 2010 or a little later, they were no longer making new
DVDs because, as someone said, they use the Net, not DVDs, to supply
data.)
 
Until 2 or 3 years ago I could still find anything I owned but now I
can't guess where the 2005 DVD is. I paid about $15 for the 2008 and
now it's $25 for another new one. on ebay. New, never used.
 
 
But the cleaning disc came yesterday after I asked about its risks and
before anyone answered telling me there really are risks, and I used it.
It appears to have worked. The instructions say it can take 20 - 30
minutes, but I was right, because it's a Map DVD, it can't actually run,
and it spins only a couple minutes before it gives up. 3 or 4 minutes
later, it tries again, I'm pretty sure, every 3 or 4 minutes. But I
only put in about 20 minutes of my time, which would be 7 minutes or
less of cleaning time, not 20 or 30 like they said.
 
It seemed to get better in stages and I've only started the radio 3
times since it worked completely, and today I sent away for an entire
unit, off-brand, for $69, just in case I go on this trip and it fails
while I'm away from home.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 17 03:32PM -0400

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 17 Jul 2023 14:19:04 -0400, micky
>later, it tries again, I'm pretty sure, every 3 or 4 minutes. But I
>only put in about 20 minutes of my time, which would be 7 minutes or
>less of cleaning time, not 20 or 30 like they said.
 
The cleaning disk seems to have worked, but I'm still disappointed in
it. Instead of a full-size plastic jewel case, it came in a semi-hard,
very thin jewel case that didn't have room for the brushes, even though
they are short. The lid is crushing them. One brush is bent over 35^
or so, and 2/3 of the other is bent even more while 1/3 of it is bend in
the opposite direction.
 
Since the brushes have been bent over since they were packed, I don't
see how they will ever straighten out, and after 24 hours, they haven't
made any noticeable change. Anyhow, most people want to use the disc as
soon as they get it.
 
They have an email address just for complaints. Should I complain?
 
This is what I bought but it's the most promoted brand on Amazon. They
have 4 versions in all.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PTZV382?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
One is the disk and a cloth $9
One is the disk and a cloth and one little bottle of disk cleaner $10
One is the disk and a cloth and two little bottles of disk cleaner $11
One is the disk and a cloth, two little bottles of disk cleaner (not
drive cleaner) and a disappointing "powder puff" for disk cleaning.
$12
 
 
BTW, in my defense, I had read a bunch of reviews for various brands and
some complained it didn't work, but I don't remember any complaining
that it made things worse.
Chuck <chuck23@dejanews.net>: Jul 17 02:33PM -0500

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 10:15:05 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
 
 
>Both win10, fully updated.
 
>Is there any point to looking for different software, that maybe can
>copy what imgburn won't copy? Or I just can't copy it?
Try CDburnerxp. I've had it work where other programs failed.
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