Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics

Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com >: Oct 11 11:59PM

I am asking for your wisdom about our 2012 TV. Soon Netflix, the last
functioning internet service, will stop working.
 
I can casually buy a streaming box that will become electronic waste as
soon as we will need to replace the TV with a newer one. Integrating the
same functionality.
 
Or I can judiciously buy a streaming box to last. When the TV will finally
experience a hardware issue what is the likelihood of a long lasting
repair? I don't know what may fail first. We have been using it for few
hours a day on average.
 
Thanks for sharing.
Jeroni Paul <JERONI.PAUL@terra.es>: Oct 11 05:29PM -0700

Wu Ming wrote:
> repair? I don't know what may fail first. We have been using it for few
> hours a day on average.
 
> Thanks for sharing.
 
The advantage of a box is that you can replace your TV with a dumb one, you can probably find one cheap new or used. And when the box becomes obsolete because the latest app will requiere a newer OS version you only have to replace the box. Also in my experience apps in webOS or other propietary OS become obsolete very fast, either the TV has Android or you end up with an Android box anyway.
Wu Ming <wu.ming2@icloud.com >: Oct 12 01:12AM

> you can probably find one cheap new or used. And when the box becomes
> obsolete because the latest app will requiere a newer OS version you only
> have to replace the box.
 
I am not familiar with current TVs designed without internet provided
services. A brief search returned some obscure Chinese brands, computer
displays and commercial displays.
 
> Also in my experience apps in webOS or other propietary OS become
> obsolete very fast, either the TV has Android or you end up with an Android box anyway.
 
If reference is to the TVs own OS my experience with Sony is that although
updates stopped some years ago services didn't. Netflix kept and keeps
working. For now.
 
OT: I don't understand the difference between Release date and End date in
the termination of sw updates notice from Sony. The seven years between
them are puzzling.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Oct 11 11:09AM -0700

On 10/11/2023 9:31 AM, Amanda Riphnykhazova wrote:
> You are absolutely right: The strip ends in two rounded forks. They were obviously joined at the end. Looking at the new one, there was originally a lengthened hole at the end to hook (a spring) onto. The bit of transparent end piece that went across the two forks is still in there somewhere.
 
> Now I have to determine whether to order a new strip for ten bucks. This is a machine that was just given to me, presumably because it didn't work, what with a broken encoding strip in there! It looks easy to install but very difficult to get to.
 
> This unit has a dreadful reputation for reliability and for giving endless stupid error messages instead of working properly. And HP's tech support (or lack thereof) shows me that the manufacturer won't stand behind his product. Does anyone think doing all this work to get this thing working is worth the bother? Am I setting myself up for a lifetime of endless stupid error messages? To add insult to injury, I was given this while throwing away a hitherto reliable Canon MX860: which that manufacturer WOULD stand behind and which always worked properly until it started to give out B200 ("This unit has died") error messages
 
There are lots of older printers offered free when people update windows
and cannot get it to work on the printer. So if you are using windows 8
or earlier, or are good at messing with OS problems, you should be able
to find a working printer. I currently have 2 HP all-in-ones, a B&W
(M1212NF) and a color one (MFP M177fw) on my network, and a Brother
all-in-one as a backup. Both work with my wife's Windows 10 computer
after some fiddling.
 
Freecycle has been my source for most, but Craigslist also has them in
their "Free" category often.
 
I haven't paid for "ink" for printing in years, but use them infrequently.
Amanda Riphnykhazova <licensedtoquill@gmail.com>: Oct 11 02:00PM -0700

> (M1212NF) and a color one (MFP M177fw) on my network, and a Brother
> all-in-one as a backup. Both work with my wife's Windows 10 computer
> after some fiddling.
 
I agree with you. I had 2 Pixma MX922 all in ones which I had to junk when they died, an MX960 which I had to junk when it died, and a somewhat longer-lasting older MX 860 which I decided had in fact died when it started giving the non-specific B200 error message. Canon printers were amazing but they do seem to have had a sort of planned obsolescence about them.
 
But the question is: Is the 8710 worth saving? I agree there are lots of all-in-ones out there and at the moment I dont actually have a scanner or a copier.
 
But is there a problem with this unit taking pigmented ink? Why are there so few places where after-market ink can be bought at reasonable cost?
 
Like you, I dont print very often and I also have an HP 1525nw for when I need inexpensive printing so I'd like to know, - how reliable are all the lousy reviews and should I go to all the bother of pulling this thing apart if it promises to give endless error messages when laboriously put together again ?
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