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TOPIC: Sound Technology ST-1700B distortion analyzer measurement pegs meter on
low range.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c424590bd89f618b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 12:14 pm
From: "David Farber"

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> David Farber wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:T-ednVZAeKq1RIHRnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>>
>>> David Farber wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of my ~30 year old Sound Technology distortion/power analyzers
>>>> has a problem. It's been sitting around for a number of years
>>>> because I had a spare. The symptom is that when you are measuring
>>>> distortion and move the rotary selector switch one step from the
>>>> 1% range to the .3% range, the meter goes from a near zero reading
>>>> to full deflection and then some. If I feed the signal output to
>>>> my other analyzer, the distortion is very low so I know the
>>>> oscillator is ok.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a copy of the schematic:
>>>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/farberbear/Repair/st-1700b/st-1700b.html
>>>>
>>>> At the output of U202, pin 6, the signal goes from zero (meter is
>>>> working properly) to a nice sine wave (meter pegs) when the switch
>>>> is rotated.to the .3% range and below. The signal is too low to
>>>> measure at the input of U202 no matter where the switch is. There
>>>> is a very detailed circuit description in the owner's manual.
>>>> However I have a general sense that there's an open circuit
>>>> somewhere causing the gain to go full blast. I cleaned the
>>>> switches but it wasn't of any help. Anyone have any clever ideas
>>>> as to how to pinpoint the trouble?
>>>
>>> Troubleshoot it. Is the switch part of an attenuator, or does it
>>> switch in more gain for the last range? Look to see if the op amp
>>> is oscillating. Look for bad electrolytics on the supply rails.
>>> It isn't rocket science. A distortion analyzer is a tunable notch
>>> filter and attenuator, followed by an AC voltmeter.
>>>
>>
>> The first thing I did was to check all the caps. They're ok.
>>
>> You can see from the schematic that the switch is part of the
>> attenuator and that U202 is before the attenuator switch. So my
>> question is why does U202 suddenly have a wild signal swing when
>> switched to the next lower step?
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>
>
> You have a lot of DC coupled stages, and some are not very good op
> amps. A dc offset can make a string like that unstable. Did you look
> at pin 6 of U202 with a low capacitance scope probe? How does the DC
> voltage there compare to the working unit?
>
> Are the op amps marked 2605 Harris HA2605? If so, they have been
> out of production for some time. Metal cased op amps, (and other
> metal cased ICs) started disapearing 10 years ago.
>
> You might luck out and fix it with a couple .1 caps to ground of the
> supply pins of U202 if it's oscillating. Another thing to check is
> all the mounting screws for the PC board and any shields. Loosen the
> screws and tighten them up to remove any oxide. Generally op amps
> oscillate from defective bypass caps, or signals being coupled from
> another circuit. Also, did you test the resistance for the contacts
> in that mode after you cleaned the switches? An open or high
> resistance contact cn upset the circuit.
>
> One question. Is the sine wave close to the frequency the filter is
> tuned to?

Hi Michael,

The oscillating is at the same frequency of the signal output (1kHz) so I
assume that is not a parasitic oscillation. I make a mistake in identifying
the correct IC, I should have said U203 is where the wild voltage swing
takes place.

Here are some readings I made with my low capacity 10:1 probe:

U202, pin 6 output, selector set to 1% range, 4.8 Vp-p.
U203, pin 6 output, selector set to 1% range, 0.0 Vp-p.

U202, pin 6 output, selector set to .3% range, 3.8 Vp-p.
U203, pin 6 output, selector set to .3% range, 2.8 Vp-p.

I was about to end my message at this point when I went back and re-read
your message to make sure I didn't leave anything out. I noticed the part
where you mentioned comparing the good analyzer to the bad one. So I
disassembled the good one and checked the dc voltages first. They were ok as
were the dc voltages on the bad one. On the AC side, of course the voltages
were zero at the output of U203 on the good one. Here comes the fun part.
While probing around the bad one again, I could hear the meter pegging as I
was touching different pins trying to hold my hand steady. All of a sudden,
the signal was gone and the meter stopped pegging. It seems to be working
correctly now. BUT if I move the frequency select switches from X100 on the
top row, X10 on the next row to X10 on the top row, X100 on the next row
(still maintaining a 1kHz signal), the distortion is much higher, over 3%.
If I gently tap the X100 switch on row 2, the meter jumps around like a bad
tape monitor switch but never drops below 3%. There is a yellow sticker on
the shield that covers the frequency selector switches that says, "WARNING
DO NOT SPRAY SWITCHES. PUSHBUTTON SWITCHES ARE PERMANENTLY LUBRICATED." etc.
etc. Perhaps the switches are causing all of these symptoms?

Thanks for your reply,

--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 1:51 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

David Farber wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > David Farber wrote:
> >>
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:T-ednVZAeKq1RIHRnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>>
> >>> David Farber wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> One of my ~30 year old Sound Technology distortion/power analyzers
> >>>> has a problem. It's been sitting around for a number of years
> >>>> because I had a spare. The symptom is that when you are measuring
> >>>> distortion and move the rotary selector switch one step from the
> >>>> 1% range to the .3% range, the meter goes from a near zero reading
> >>>> to full deflection and then some. If I feed the signal output to
> >>>> my other analyzer, the distortion is very low so I know the
> >>>> oscillator is ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is a copy of the schematic:
> >>>> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/farberbear/Repair/st-1700b/st-1700b.html
> >>>>
> >>>> At the output of U202, pin 6, the signal goes from zero (meter is
> >>>> working properly) to a nice sine wave (meter pegs) when the switch
> >>>> is rotated.to the .3% range and below. The signal is too low to
> >>>> measure at the input of U202 no matter where the switch is. There
> >>>> is a very detailed circuit description in the owner's manual.
> >>>> However I have a general sense that there's an open circuit
> >>>> somewhere causing the gain to go full blast. I cleaned the
> >>>> switches but it wasn't of any help. Anyone have any clever ideas
> >>>> as to how to pinpoint the trouble?
> >>>
> >>> Troubleshoot it. Is the switch part of an attenuator, or does it
> >>> switch in more gain for the last range? Look to see if the op amp
> >>> is oscillating. Look for bad electrolytics on the supply rails.
> >>> It isn't rocket science. A distortion analyzer is a tunable notch
> >>> filter and attenuator, followed by an AC voltmeter.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The first thing I did was to check all the caps. They're ok.
> >>
> >> You can see from the schematic that the switch is part of the
> >> attenuator and that U202 is before the attenuator switch. So my
> >> question is why does U202 suddenly have a wild signal swing when
> >> switched to the next lower step?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your reply.
> >
> >
> > You have a lot of DC coupled stages, and some are not very good op
> > amps. A dc offset can make a string like that unstable. Did you look
> > at pin 6 of U202 with a low capacitance scope probe? How does the DC
> > voltage there compare to the working unit?
> >
> > Are the op amps marked 2605 Harris HA2605? If so, they have been
> > out of production for some time. Metal cased op amps, (and other
> > metal cased ICs) started disapearing 10 years ago.
> >
> > You might luck out and fix it with a couple .1 caps to ground of the
> > supply pins of U202 if it's oscillating. Another thing to check is
> > all the mounting screws for the PC board and any shields. Loosen the
> > screws and tighten them up to remove any oxide. Generally op amps
> > oscillate from defective bypass caps, or signals being coupled from
> > another circuit. Also, did you test the resistance for the contacts
> > in that mode after you cleaned the switches? An open or high
> > resistance contact cn upset the circuit.
> >
> > One question. Is the sine wave close to the frequency the filter is
> > tuned to?
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> The oscillating is at the same frequency of the signal output (1kHz) so I
> assume that is not a parasitic oscillation. I make a mistake in identifying
> the correct IC, I should have said U203 is where the wild voltage swing
> takes place.
>
> Here are some readings I made with my low capacity 10:1 probe:
>
> U202, pin 6 output, selector set to 1% range, 4.8 Vp-p.
> U203, pin 6 output, selector set to 1% range, 0.0 Vp-p.
>
> U202, pin 6 output, selector set to .3% range, 3.8 Vp-p.
> U203, pin 6 output, selector set to .3% range, 2.8 Vp-p.
>
> I was about to end my message at this point when I went back and re-read
> your message to make sure I didn't leave anything out. I noticed the part
> where you mentioned comparing the good analyzer to the bad one. So I
> disassembled the good one and checked the dc voltages first. They were ok as
> were the dc voltages on the bad one. On the AC side, of course the voltages
> were zero at the output of U203 on the good one. Here comes the fun part.
> While probing around the bad one again, I could hear the meter pegging as I
> was touching different pins trying to hold my hand steady. All of a sudden,
> the signal was gone and the meter stopped pegging. It seems to be working
> correctly now. BUT if I move the frequency select switches from X100 on the
> top row, X10 on the next row to X10 on the top row, X100 on the next row
> (still maintaining a 1kHz signal), the distortion is much higher, over 3%.
> If I gently tap the X100 switch on row 2, the meter jumps around like a bad
> tape monitor switch but never drops below 3%. There is a yellow sticker on
> the shield that covers the frequency selector switches that says, "WARNING
> DO NOT SPRAY SWITCHES. PUSHBUTTON SWITCHES ARE PERMANENTLY LUBRICATED." etc.
> etc. Perhaps the switches are causing all of these symptoms?

Pushbutton switches are a pain in the ass. From the age of the
equipment I would guess that they were made by ALPS? I have had a lot
of bad interlocking pushbutton switches over the years. The silver
plating is low grade, and I've even seen it flake off. The contact lube
used in some switches is a low grade grease that washes away with
contact cleaner, exposing the contacts to contaminants. Mouser carried
some push button switches the last time I looked. I always used some GC
Tunerlube to replace the lube in pushbutton switches when I had to clean
them. Check out the http://www.mouser.com site to see if you can find
new switches, or turn the unit of and press the buttons 50 to 100 times
each to wear away any oxide, then relubricate the switches.

If you can't find what you need, post some pictures of the switches
and I'll see if I have any in my collection.

Switchcraft made my favorites, but they are quite expensive.

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Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

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TOPIC: Surge Protectors, how do you tell if they still good
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 12:34 pm
From: mike

westom wrote:

> Assuming they are MOV based, read MOV datasheets to learn how MOVs
> work and obtain relevenant numbers for the test. Perform a 1
> milliamp test to confirm these numbers on that protector. This test
> is described in some manufacturer application notes.
>

Been awhile since I looked inside, I'll have to open 'em back up and
see what numbers are on them (if any, I can't remember).

> The test only confirms the protector can conduct. Does not say
> anything about what makes a protector effective - the earth ground and
> how it connects to earth. The best surge protection in the world can
> be useless if grounding is not done properly.

Makes sense, I'll confirm that the service entrance ground is in good
condition, too.

Thanks,
Mike

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 7:49 pm
From: westom

On Jun 21, 1:40 pm, bud-- <remove.budn...@isp.com> wrote:
> westom just continues to repeat the same lies - a la Goebbels.

An honest bud would simply post numeric specs to prove what he
claims. He cannot. No plug-in protector claims that protection from
each type of surge. bud is a promoter. He again posts insults
because his protectors do not claim protection in numeric specs.
Honesty is not bud.

What do his citations show? Page 42 Figure 8. A protector too far
from earth ground and too close to TVs earths a surge 8000 volts
destructively through that TV. IEEE brochure Page 42 Figure 8
demonstrates why high profit plug-in protectors do not even claim
protection in numeric specs. Bud's job is to lie and insult so that
you will ignore what he cannot provide - effective protection.

Where are those numeric specs that claim surge protection? bud
promotes these things – and still cannot find those numeric specs.

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TOPIC: req: STK 403-100
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 1:51 pm
From: kevin

Plz i need a copy of that service manual

thnx in advance

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 2:16 pm
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:51:35 -0700, kevin ǝʇoɹʍ:

> Plz i need a copy of that service manual
>
> thnx in advance

A service manual for a convergence driver IC?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 2:24 pm
From: kevin

On 21 jun, 16:16, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:51:35 -0700, kevin ǝʇoɹʍ:
>
> > Plz i need a copy of that service manual
>
> > thnx in advance
>
> A service manual for a convergence driver IC?

Sorry, im lookin' for a datasheet of STK 403-100
thnx

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 3:02 pm
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:24:50 -0700, kevin ǝʇoɹʍ:

> On 21 jun, 16:16, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:51:35 -0700, kevin ǝʇoɹʍ:
>>
>> > Plz i need a copy of that service manual
>>
>> > thnx in advance
>>
>> A service manual for a convergence driver IC?
>
> Sorry, im lookin' for a datasheet of STK 403-100 thnx

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/

Type in you number hit search and read.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 1:52 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

John Robertson wrote:
>
> Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:14:04 -0500, Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
> >> <-snip ->
> >
> >> Wanna guess there's some malicious script hiding in the image?
> >
> > So, that's why you felt compelled to repost the spammer's
> > entire piece of excrement -- including his URL?
>
> More efficient to simply expose all the headers and forward to the abuse
> email of the source - in the first iteration groups-abuse@google.com.
>
> I'm just doing that now with any spam I see in any of the groups I
> frequent. It might annoy the people at Google-groups (and others) to do
> something about this problem.
>
> I recommend that everyone that knows how to expose all the headers (in
> Eudora you simply pull down "View - Headers - All") and then forward away.
>
> John :-#(#

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Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 2:13 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Mark Zacharias wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0sCdnWOh_dPISoHRnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >
> > PeterD wrote:
> >>
> >> Ah, you know what they say: "Make it more expensive if no one wants it
> >> at the current price..."
> >
> >
> > It worked for my uncle when he sold his farm back in the '50s. No
> > one wanted his mules for $25 each, so he waited a few weeks and offered
> > them for $75 each. They sold the same day.
> >
> >
>
> I sometimes see this on eBay. Never understood it really, though I'm sure it
> works sometimes.
>
> There was a really beautiful Yokogawa 5.5 digit multimeter which failed to
> sell at 199.00 so the seller relisted at 299.00 then finally at 399.00.
>
> Never did sell as far as I know...

Another true story: I was at the Dayton hamfest about 25 years ago
when a friend walked up and saw people buying a lot of things from me.
He said he had a lot of the same things, and hadn't sold anything. I
had another friend watch my stuff while we went to his tables. I saw
his problem, right away. Everything was too cheap. To a lot of people
it said, that the merchandise was either defective or stolen, and they
wouldn't touch it. I ripped up all his price tags and wrote new tags.
He was telling me that I was crazy, but people started buying his parts
& equipment, so I headed back to my spot.

He came back at the end of the day to tell me that he had sold almost
everything, but he still couldn't understand what happened. I explained
how I priced my merchandise at hamfests: You make a quick trip around
the market, looking at prices. If i saw something for $2 in one spot
and $5 at another I would split the difference. That would be $3.50, so
I would round it up to $4.00 to keep from needing too much change. It
also gave me a little room to dicker, since people would want to knock a
dollar off of two, at that price. :)

I went to one hamfest with a $20 bill, and $35 worth of equipment. By
the end of the day I had made over $200, and had a van full of used test
equipment and parts. I had sold everything in the first 15 minutes, so
I went out and spent all the money. I couldn't leave till the event was
over, so I just sat behind my van to talk to friends as they passed.
People saw what I had bought, and didn't care that I had sold out of
everything. They offered me more than what the purchases were worth to
me, so I sold it all. I went out again, and spent all the money, then
went back to my truck. I was cleaned out again, and made one last trip
to buy stuff for my shop.

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 6:14 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Cydrome Leader" <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in message
news:hvo9oo$qsj$5@reader1.panix.com...
> David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>> On 6/20/2010 7:09 PM sparky spake thus:
>>
>>> On Jun 18, 4:18 pm, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>> >
>>>> Someone else made a comment in another thread here about weird
>>>> schematics (like for home appliances).
>>>>
>>>> Wanted to get a small discussion going on that topic. My take: there
>>>> are
>>>> good and bad standards for schematics. Personally, I can't stand the
>>>> ones that use rectangle shapes for resistors, instead of the
>>>> traditional
>>>> zigzag that [insert name of deity here] intended to be used. (And even
>>>> here there are lots of variations, like old-fashioned schematics that
>>>> took this symbol rather literally and sometimes had ten or twelve zigs
>>>> and zags, as if an actual resistor was being constructed on paper).
>>>>
>>>> Likewise the wire-connecting/jumping convention: here I much prefer the
>>>> modern approach, which is to use a dot for a connection and no dot for
>>>> no connection, rather than the clumsy "loop" to indicate one wire
>>>> jumping over another with no connection.
>>>
>>> The jumping over loop is much easier to read on a messed up copy than
>>> trying to determine if it is a dot or just a smudge.
>>> Using 5K6 for markings also makes it earier to read.
>>
>> Well, then let me ask you the same question I'm asking others here: if
>> that's so, then why don't we use that system (8K2, etc.) for other
>> values like voltages, currents, etc? Aren't they also likely to be hard
>> to read on a "messed-up copy"? Why not be consistent?
>
> the short answer is they don't know, and like being slaves to stupid
> committees.

Clearly, you can't read, which is why you probably can't understand a simple
system. Twat.

Arfa

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 6:27 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Adam Sampson"
>
> This schematic shows MJ3001 and MJ2501 as equivalents for SCSN1 and SCSP1:
> http://www.drtube.com/schematics/marshall/2099u.gif
>
> These are Darlington pairs, so they have much greater hFE than the
> 2N3055/MJ2955. They're only about a fiver a pair from Farnell.

** If someone fits 2N3055s and MJ2955s instead of the correct types, the
transistors will run hot but deliver low power.

Seen done it a few times and the repair tech could not figure it out.

.... Phil

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TOPIC: Horizontal sync problem with Sony E500 monitor
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 8:19 pm
From: Franc Zabkar

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:55:30 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> put finger
to keyboard and composed:

>After being on for a while, the image suddenly jumps a bit to the left,
>and the lines get all "wiggly". Turning it off for a while (cools
>down??) fixes it for a while.
>
>Probably a capacitor, but I don't know which one. Any suggestions?

CPD-E500/E500E service manual:
http://esi.sony.ca/esupport/esupport/CD%20Rom%20Service%20Manual/042000/thiscd/sm-e/dp/997966701.pdf

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/18433/sony_CPD-E500.html

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 9:54 pm
From: isw

In article <ika026pq5vt78gohamqieih2c12m4bu4kc@4ax.com>,
Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:55:30 -0700, isw <isw@witzend.com> put finger
> to keyboard and composed:
>
> >After being on for a while, the image suddenly jumps a bit to the left,
> >and the lines get all "wiggly". Turning it off for a while (cools
> >down??) fixes it for a while.
> >
> >Probably a capacitor, but I don't know which one. Any suggestions?
>
> CPD-E500/E500E service manual:
> http://esi.sony.ca/esupport/esupport/CD%20Rom%20Service%20Manual/042000/thiscd
> /sm-e/dp/997966701.pdf
>
> http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/18433/sony_CPD-E500.html

Very helpful; thanks.

Isaac

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 9:48 pm
From: Elmo

What are the shiny CDROM-sized platters in an old desktop disk drive made
out of?

I glued two of them together so that the offset covered the center hole to
use as an indestructable traveling shaving mirror.

A friend said they won't pass TSA security but they're not sharp. They are
just really shiny and really flat.

What are they made out of anyway?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 10:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Elmo wrote

> What are the shiny CDROM-sized platters in an old desktop disk drive made out of?

They are usually glass or aluminium.

> I glued two of them together so that the offset covered the
> center hole to use as an indestructable traveling shaving mirror.

> A friend said they won't pass TSA security but they're not sharp.
> They are just really shiny and really flat.

> What are they made out of anyway?

They are usually glass or aluminium.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 10:28 pm
From: Tony Hwang

Elmo wrote:
> What are the shiny CDROM-sized platters in an old desktop disk drive made
> out of?
>
> I glued two of them together so that the offset covered the center hole to
> use as an indestructable traveling shaving mirror.
>
> A friend said they won't pass TSA security but they're not sharp. They are
> just really shiny and really flat.
>
> What are they made out of anyway?
Hi,
They are metal platter.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 11:12 pm
From: mm

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:48:56 +0000 (UTC), Elmo
<dcdraftworks@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:

>What are the shiny CDROM-sized platters in an old desktop disk drive made
>out of?
>
>I glued two of them together so that the offset covered the center hole to
>use as an indestructable traveling shaving mirror.
>
>A friend said they won't pass TSA security but they're not sharp. They are
>just really shiny and really flat.
>
>What are they made out of anyway?

I've taken them apart but I didnt' try bending them. If you really
think the tsa will complain, bring another one you can bend for them.
Maybe that will help, if they really do complain. Or bend the double
one you're bringing and use the bent part as a stand.

On Leno tonight, Headlines. someone was photographing a pedestrian,
but he turned his head away and put a file folder between his head and
the camera. Unfortunately the glass window behind him gave a perfect
reflection. Something he might not have known from his vantage
point!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 21 2010 11:37 pm
From: small Pox

Jason Bermas EXPOSES Terrorism of FBI MOTHER FoKERS on the PRIME TIME
MEDIA - Jason Bermas is a JEW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related

INCOMPETENT and CRIMINALLY RACIST , FBI mother fucking bastards who
HAVE BEEN ACCUSED

Publicly

by a JEW , movie maker and 911 TRUTH SPREADER

FBI bastards who will sell their mothers for money and orders from
their masters in political offices -

We are ready to debate in OPEN PUBLIC setting accusations and give you
AN OPPORTUNITY to answer simple questions ::

about 911 and NANO THERMITE residue PROVEN beyond DOUBT in the DUST of
911 and video movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related

FBI BASTARDS, watch this video ::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTn-w3xjprg&feature=related

INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF of the Incompetence of FBI
INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF of the Incompetence of FBI
INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF of the Incompetence of FBI

This is all due to DISINFORMATION - FBI bustards are the cause of it.
The prime suspect of ANTHRAX is beyond doubt a white or jew (american
or israeli) and one name is Zack who worked at AIMES Iowa. The 911 is
also a jew job or white job. If this bustard were knowledgeable, he
would be hunting for 911 doers in Washington, Langley Virginia, Kroll
or Blackwater.

Here is what Webster Tarpley reveals recently:

part 3 link but all parts are a GOLD MINE :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sawzAXXavLY

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/american-man-arrested-hunting-osama-bin...

By LEE FERRAN and MATTHEW COLE
June 15, 2010

The American arrested in Pakistan who was on a solo mission to hunt
down Osama bin Laden told police he was intent on avenging the victims
of the 9/11 terror attacks.
Gary Brooks Faulkner - Bin Laden hunter

This undated photo provided Tuesday, June 15, 2010 by the Larimer
County, Colo. Sheriff's
Office... Expand

Authorities said Gary Brooks Faulkner, a construction worker who lived
in Greeley, Colo., was arrested attempting to cross into Afghanistan
in the mountainous region of northern Pakistan. He was armed with a
pistol, sword, night vision goggles, a map and was reportedly carrying
Christian literature.

Police arrested Faulkner, 51, in a hotel near the Afghanistan border.
Police said that when he was arrested, Faulkner claimed he was going
to take revenge for al Qaeda's terror attacks on the Pentagon and the
World Trade Center.

Faulkner's brother-in-law JohnMartin told ABC News that Faulkner
talked openly with the family about his plans to hunt down the al
Qaeda leader.

"He's a very deeply religious individual, very patriotic," Martin
said. "It seemed to be his thing. He thought it should be done and he
thought he could accomplish it."

Osama bin Laden has evaded one of the largest international manhunts
in history and remains on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.

Martin said Faulkner was not trained in anyway for a seek and destroy
mission and had no military training, though he had been to the region
before. Faulkner's brother Scott said he was trained in martial arts
and a sword and dagger were his "weapons of choice."

Faulkner also has an arrest record and spent time in Colorado prisons,
according to public records.

Family: Faulkner is Not Crazy, Maybe Non-Traditional

"We initially laughed when he told us he wanted to kill Osama bin
Laden," said one official, Mumtaz Ahmad Khan, according to The
Associated Press.
Osama Bin Laden why can't we find the Pakistani Taliban leader?
Exiled al Qaida leader Osama bin Laden is seen in this April 1998
picture in Afghanistan.
(/AP Photo)

While going on such a mission in hostile territory alone and with no
training to find the most wanted man on the planet may have seemed
ridiculous to many, Faulkner's sister, brother said he had made
several trips to the area to reconoiter bin Laden's possible location
-- and believed he had found the cave where the al Qaeda leader was
hiding.

Scott Faulkner said his brother had "stood at its entrance, possibly
within 100 feet" of where he believe his target was living.

Even if his brother's mission failed and even if he died trying, Scott
Faulkner said his brother would "love" the media attention.

"It's waking America back up... The fact that it's bringing it back in
the forefront of the American psyche, now there's hopefully going to
be a renewed effort to get this guy," Scott Faulkner said.

While he was likely aware of the hefty $25 million reward for
information leading to Bin Laden's arrest, Martin said the cause was
more important.
=====

The FAT per DIEM FBI bustards use our TAX PAYER MONEY and INCOMPETENCE
is UNACCEPTABLE.

=====

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQapkVCx1HI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ-k-iOg0M

Hey Racist and INcompetent FBI Bustards, where is the ANTHRAX Mailer ?
Where are the 4 blackboxes ? Where are the Pentagon Videos ? Why did
you release the 5 dancing Israelis compromising the whole 911
investigation ? If the Dubai Police can catch Mossad Murderers and put
the videos and Iranian Police can why cant you put the Pentagon
Videos ? If Iran police can put the AMERICAN TERRORIST, Riggi and
puting on INTERNATIONAL MEDIA a day after catching him without
TORTURE, why cant you put the INNOCENT patsies on the MEDIA. Why did
you have to LIE about Dr Afiya Siddiqui and torture that Innocent
little mother of 3 and smashing the skull of her one child ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhMcii8smxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZ2lxDJmdg

There are CRIMINAL cases against CIA CRIMINAL Bustards in Italian
courts.

FBI bustards paid a penalty of $5.8 million to Steven Hatfill, but
only because he was a white. They got away with MURDER of thousands of
Non-whites in all parts of the world.

Daily 911 news : http://911blogger.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kGZ3XPEm4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX18zUp6WPY

Conclusion : FBI bustards are RACIST and INcompetent. They could
neither catch the ANTHRAX or 911 YANK/Jew criminals nor could they
cover them up - whichever was their actual goal or task.

SLASH the SALARIES of FBI/CIA/NSA etc BUSTARDS into half all across
tbe board, esp the whites/jew on the top.

FBI Bustards failed to Catch BERNARD MADOFF even after that RACIST and
UNPATRIOTIC Act
FBI bustards failed to prevent ROMAN POLANSKY from absconding to
europe and rapes.
FBI bustards failed to prevent OKLAHOMA

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