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TOPIC: Technics dv-280 stereo system -cassette dead
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 9:35 am
From: b

On Jul 27, 5:48 pm, b <reverend_rog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Picked this up a few months back and just hauled it out. The units
> power up, and lights come on but the cassette deck stubbornly remains
> dead.

Also forgot to mention: no audio through speakers, and through
headphones nothing either -well, I get a low hiss (vol. at full) when
in tuner mode, despite the search mode working and stations appearing
as 'tuned' in the display....
-B

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 10:38 am
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:35:17 -0700, b wrote:

> On Jul 27, 5:48 pm, b <reverend_rog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Picked this up a few months back and just hauled it out. The units
>> power up, and lights come on but the cassette deck stubbornly remains
>> dead.
>
>
> Also forgot to mention: no audio through speakers, and through
> headphones nothing either -well, I get a low hiss (vol. at full) when in
> tuner mode, despite the search mode working and stations appearing as
> 'tuned' in the display....
> -B

My educated and experienced guess is a missing voltage.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 6:10 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7d34ed60-55eb-4174-bf68-80ec0af85389@f15g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
> Picked this up a few months back and just hauled it out. The units
> power up, and lights come on but the cassette deck stubbornly remains
> dead.
>
> This is a 'pseudo-separates' affair, where each box is connected by
> means of a flat ribbon cable. The main trafo. is in the amp which then
> feeds a 'sound processor'/input selector box, from whence the dvd and
> cassette decks are fed. The dvd, which is downstream from the
> cassette, powers up fine. I'm assuming they use the same power rail,
> so will concentrate on the cassette unit first.
> Going to take some measurements on the cassette pcb, but I'd like the
> service data to speed things up, as this is quite a complex unit and
> it would save me the hassle of having to unscrew and open all the
> boxes to trace the basic voltage lines.
>
> Anyone suggest a source for a schematic? Tried eserviceinfo to no
> avail....
> cheers,
> B

I've sent you a set of schematics direct off-group. Let me know that you get
them ok

Arfa

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TOPIC: Zenith 25CC25 horizontal sweep problem
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 10:27 am
From: Chuck

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:19:04 -0700 (PDT), Jim Adney
<jadney@vwtype3.org> wrote:

>On Jul 21, 11:22 pm, Jim Adney <jad...@vwtype3.org> wrote:
>
>> Finally, I checked the DC bias on the HOT. The Zenith manual says it
>> should be -80 V, so I was expecting it to be lower. It's actually -65
>> V. So there must be something else wrong in that circuit.
>
>In comparing my Sams & Zenith manuals, I find that Zenith says the HOT
>control grid bias should be -80 V but Sams says -48 V. I now have -65
>V. I'm going to guess that Sams is right and I need something closer
>to -50 V, which should turn things up a bit more and get me to the 26
>kV that I should have for the HV. I also checked the tube data sheets
>for the 20LF6 and 26LF6 and found that typical control grid bias
>values are -10 and -20 V. So I can afford to boost that voltage quite
>a bit higher (more positive) than the -65 V where it's at now.
>
>The set is put back together now, but I'll pull it apart again once
>our houseguests (arriving tomorrow) are gone. In the meantime, it
>looks like I should try to buy one of those odd 63-5440s. AFAIK that's
>the one remaining part in there that might be the problem, but I'll
>check around the circuit, too, to make sure I haven't missed
>something.
>
>As an aside: Was it common for the Sams to be more accurate than the
>Zenith manual? Or, to put it differently: Did the Zenith manuals have
>a poor reputation?
>
>thanks,
If I remember correctly, there were usually more mistakes in the Sams
manuals. Chuck

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TOPIC: Question for the Brits here, what do you call a Belling-Lee connector?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 2:36 pm
From: Ian Jackson

In message <1jm7f5y.11544j0xo7lzgN%adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>,
Adrian Tuddenham <adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> writes
>Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you call a Belling-Lee connector?
>
>Belling-Lee coax plug/socket.
>
>I might be able to find the manufacturer's original part number for you
>if I searched through the back-issues of Wireless World; but if it is
>that difficult to find, I don't suppose anyone will recognise it.
>
>The characteristic impedance of those connectors was 75 ohms. The last
>batch I had from R.S. Components, about two years ago, had sub-standard
>insulation and were mechanically unsound (they fell apart at about the
>fifth time of use). Needless to say, they hadn't been made by Belling &
>Lee.
>
Interestingly, Wikipedia says:
"The IEC-169-2 connector is recognised as a source of signal distortion
and has become a particular concern with digital signal reception,
specifically UHF HDTV."

I recall that my own measurements (in the 1960s) indicated that a
genuine B&L connector was actually a pretty good match at UHF TV
frequencies (well, up to 500MHz or so) - certainly not enough to give me
any concerns that the whole of the TV industry had made a bad choice of
connector.
--
Ian

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TOPIC: Isopropyl Alcohol for Cleaning Flux
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 3:20 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:50:11 GMT, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:

>In article <g31s46p08a2d3iasq94q31guq46k07n7ra@4ax.com>, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:04:22 GMT, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <slrni4rlsb.9v8.gsm@cable.mendelson.com>, gsm@mendelson.com wrote:
>>>>GregS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 95% is a very good figure. I actually use the NON-denatured stuff.
>>>>
>>>>How about the drinking stuff? (95% "grain" alcohol).
>>>>
>>>>Here I can by a "fifth" (750ml) for less than 250ml of 70% Isopropyl.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes I was reffering to the ethanol drinkable stuff that is not taxed.
>>>Been used for years in medical parties.
>>
>>Not a wise move. The un-taxed stuff (not for human consumption) often
>>contains benzene.
>
>Thats the 99% stuff that contains benzene.

Much of the untaxed ethanol uses the benzene process.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 3:23 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:30:29 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
<jonSPAMMENOTdanniken@yahSPAMhoo.com> wrote:

>David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>
>> Why mess around with isopropyl alcohol at all, since all of it
>> contains *some* water? Use denatured alcohol (methanol) instead, in a
>> tightly-capped container to guard against absorbing moisture.
>
>Perhaps it is different where you live, but here in the US, denatured
>alcohol is not methanol; it is, instead, ethanol with a denaturant added.
>The denaturant can be methanol, or it can be any number of other chemicals,
>so long as it is sufficiently adulterated to prevent a person from using it
>for ingestion.

Right. Methanol is a very poor denaturant. The idea is to make it
undrinkable, not lethal. Someone ralfing their guts out for an hour is
cheaper than blindness or death. Now, Sterno...

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 3:32 pm
From: "tm"

<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
news:6umu46159hqem3o9anb0camshgio9j30gp@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:30:29 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
> <jonSPAMMENOTdanniken@yahSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>
>>David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>>
>>> Why mess around with isopropyl alcohol at all, since all of it
>>> contains *some* water? Use denatured alcohol (methanol) instead, in a
>>> tightly-capped container to guard against absorbing moisture.
>>
>>Perhaps it is different where you live, but here in the US, denatured
>>alcohol is not methanol; it is, instead, ethanol with a denaturant added.
>>The denaturant can be methanol, or it can be any number of other
>>chemicals,
>>so long as it is sufficiently adulterated to prevent a person from using
>>it
>>for ingestion.
>
> Right. Methanol is a very poor denaturant. The idea is to make it
> undrinkable, not lethal. Someone ralfing their guts out for an hour is
> cheaper than blindness or death. Now, Sterno...

The treatment for Methanol poisoning is Ethanol and lots of it. Usually by
IV.

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== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 4:19 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:32:20 -0400, "tm" <the_obamunist@whitehouse.gov> wrote:

>
><krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
>news:6umu46159hqem3o9anb0camshgio9j30gp@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:30:29 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
>> <jonSPAMMENOTdanniken@yahSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>David Nebenzahl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why mess around with isopropyl alcohol at all, since all of it
>>>> contains *some* water? Use denatured alcohol (methanol) instead, in a
>>>> tightly-capped container to guard against absorbing moisture.
>>>
>>>Perhaps it is different where you live, but here in the US, denatured
>>>alcohol is not methanol; it is, instead, ethanol with a denaturant added.
>>>The denaturant can be methanol, or it can be any number of other
>>>chemicals,
>>>so long as it is sufficiently adulterated to prevent a person from using
>>>it
>>>for ingestion.
>>
>> Right. Methanol is a very poor denaturant. The idea is to make it
>> undrinkable, not lethal. Someone ralfing their guts out for an hour is
>> cheaper than blindness or death. Now, Sterno...
>
>The treatment for Methanol poisoning is Ethanol and lots of it. Usually by
>IV.

AIUI, this swamps the liver so it doesn't produce as much formaldehyde at
once.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 4:44 pm
From: dplatt@radagast.org (Dave Platt)

In article <6umu46159hqem3o9anb0camshgio9j30gp@4ax.com>,
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>>
>>Perhaps it is different where you live, but here in the US, denatured
>>alcohol is not methanol; it is, instead, ethanol with a denaturant added.
>>The denaturant can be methanol, or it can be any number of other chemicals,
>>so long as it is sufficiently adulterated to prevent a person from using it
>>for ingestion.
>
>Right. Methanol is a very poor denaturant. The idea is to make it
>undrinkable, not lethal. Someone ralfing their guts out for an hour is
>cheaper than blindness or death.

Yup. Recipies for denaturing ethanol seem to vary a lot by country
and by intended application of the denatured alcohol.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/27cfr21_03.html lists a
bunch of different formulas that are specifically defined and
authorized in the U.S. for certain applications. Some of them seem
downright scary:

Formula 2-C: To every 100 gallons of alcohol add thirty-three pounds
or more of metallic sodium and either 1/2 gallon of
benzene, 1/2 gallon of toluene, or 1/2 gallon of
rubber hydrocarbon solvent.

5 gallons of methanol per 100 gallons of ethanol is Formula 3-A.

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 4:53 pm
From: dplatt@radagast.org (Dave Platt)

In article <i2nmh7$2mq$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
tm <the_obamunist@whitehouse.gov> wrote:

>> Right. Methanol is a very poor denaturant. The idea is to make it
>> undrinkable, not lethal. Someone ralfing their guts out for an hour is
>> cheaper than blindness or death. Now, Sterno...
>
>The treatment for Methanol poisoning is Ethanol and lots of it. Usually by
>IV.

The same treatment is also used at times in cases of poisoning due to
ethylene glycol (antifreeze). If I recall correctly, the idea is to
saturate the liver's conversion-enzyme system with ethanol, thus
blocking the breakdown of methanol or glycol into toxic byproducts.

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TOPIC: C Audio Pulse 2x 1100 watt amp
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 5:32 pm
From: Jim

Have you repaired the amp yet?
I sent you a couple of off list messages but they bounced.
I have repaired a few of this type of amplifier and may be able to
help troubleshoot it.
Contact me off list at IFixAudio at GMail.com.

Jim

On Jul 21, 6:51 am, "N_Cook" <dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> Goes into protect mode at switch on.
> Useful info and schema on these G class ampshttp://www.reptips.dk/Reptips/CAUDIO.pdf
> as well as schema only, on e-service
> One smps supplies both amps and 4 rails, each rail supplies both ch, I've
> cut the "overdrive" rails temporarily and running on +/- 60V.
> Output has about +18V on ch1 for about a second before dropping down to 0,
> so o/p DCsense line to the PIC tells it to go into protect, of whole amp.
> With 15R load then op jump is to about 10V. The other ch2 is fine , no more
> than 0.5V on output loaded or not.
> Same 2 (4 in full operation) rails supply both amps. All electrolytics check
> out ok. Problem fault tracing is 3/4 of the active in this amp shows the
> same 18V or so jump at power-up.
> Disabling the protect line, so the amp powers up, shows nothing amiss after
> 2 seconds, on all main transistors, running at +/-25 V rails anyway. I will
> repeat this now at +/-60 V but as no 1 to 1 correspondence of device
> numbering or posistioning between ch1 and ch2 a bit awkward and I don't
> expect to see any substantial DC differences as has settled down after the
> first couple of seconds. How to zero-in to the problem device . Nothing
> untoward at the pa input but I will tie to ground the next time of powering
> up just to confirm.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 12:13 am
From: "N_Cook"

Jim <ifixaudio@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:74a484e6-688f-434d-944b-859bdfc3bc09@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Have you repaired the amp yet?
I sent you a couple of off list messages but they bounced.
I have repaired a few of this type of amplifier and may be able to
help troubleshoot it.
Contact me off list at IFixAudio at GMail.com.

Jim

No valid emails used on usenet
The one with leaky TO92 repaired and waiting for owner to return from
holiday.
Second one initially looked at , problems again in a TO02 device in a
different area of one amp, gone B-C-E shorted so more obvious a problem.
Waiting for owner to return before progressing on that one. Third one not
looked at other than also goes into protect and no obvious problems with the
TO3s , perhaps so well protected that rarely do the YO3s get a chance to
fail.

I will use a valid email account to contact you

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 27 2010 6:24 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"b" <reverend_rogers@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:688d6677-0f29-4462-8761-2b1c31141961@h25g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> Still, nice to see a bit of kit that, even with almost a direct short
> on, didn't blow up the o/p stage or get otherwise BER.
> -B
>

Well, to some extent, that's the nature of the beast with tube amps.
Obviously, if you run something like a continuous sine with a direct short
across the output, given time, you're going to twat the output transformer,
but the general rule, for normal music running through an amp, is that
semiconductor amps don't like a short, but don't mind an open, and the
opposite case for tube amps, as without any primary-side damping from
secondary side load, the p-p voltages that appear across the primary, can
cause internal flashover of the tubes, and insulation breakdown in the
transformer.

Arfa

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